(Data) State of the Game: 02/20/2011 - Page 3

Alchemator · Feb 22nd, 2011, 5:03:02 AM

Psst...

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Originally Posted by Fat Deck Knight

This change applies retroactively, will devolve any Pokemon who has not reached the correct EC level, and players may reapportion all of their KO Counters and Ref Tokens put into EC if they wish. Use the Prize Claiming Thread to make these changes. They will also recover any Move Counters they used on moves the basic form of their evolved Pokemon cannot learn.

Say goodbye to Grumpig for the time being.

FinnRagetti · Feb 22nd, 2011, 9:46:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Alchemator

Say goodbye to Grumpig for the time being.

My Scraggy was soooo close ;-;

coolking49 · Feb 22nd, 2011, 9:54:18 AM

So that means something like shuckle or touros is 10 points now? there goes some of my plans.

edit: unown is 8 rarity points then... I think that should be thought through along with delibird, etc.

Chomper The Sharptooth · Feb 22nd, 2011, 10:48:29 AM

And Luvdisk is 6...

It's never come up yet but I feel like Sleep Talk might need to be changed later on. As it stands if a trainer uses Sleep Talk the Ref will either have to "randomly" select themselves (we aren't random, that's why we're linked to an RNG) or number every single attack they have and use whichever the RNG lands on. I have three ideas on how it could work differently

1. Let the trainer choose. Make the Energy cost equal to their move plus Sleep Talk (6). It'll be almost a hinderance to use consecutive turns (10 + attack, 14 + attack, etc). The only real problem with this Sleep Talk + Status Recovery move unless we want less sleep which is always a distinct possibility.

2. Randomly select from three moves used last round. A whole lot simpler than a big huge random selection.

3. Randomly select from last three unique options. Makes sure they don't have only one or two choices to be "randomly" picked. The odds make them work like a CroPokemon even if they don't initiate their own rest.

mewtwo15026 · Feb 22nd, 2011, 4:46:09 PM

I don't know if this is best mentioned here or in the Data Audit, but...

The Damage Calculator mentions Weight-Based / Full-Body attacks. Could you mention which attacks are and aren't in the Audit just as a reminder?

Engineer Pikachu · Feb 22nd, 2011, 8:25:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat mewtwo15026

I don't know if this is best mentioned here or in the Data Audit, but...

The Damage Calculator mentions Weight-Based / Full-Body attacks. Could you mention which attacks are and aren't in the Audit just as a reminder?

There aren't that many weight-based ones.

And they are listed in the "Weight Scale of Damage" tab on the same document.

**Deck Knight** · Feb 22nd, 2011, 10:09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dogfish44

Q - For those who have already obtained evolutions under the old rules, what happens now?

Edit: I'm objecting to the devolution of my Grumpig. It isn't needed, and if it would have taken 6 EC's I'd have made several KO counters into move counters etc. Will I be able to reallot the entire set of KO counters?

Yes. if you wish to reallot your KO Counters and can reach the evolution threshold, simply exchange them and remove the moves you obtained through KO counters.

Feb 22nd, 2011, 9:54:18 AM	#53
coolking49 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,700 India	So that means something like shuckle or touros is 10 points now? there goes some of my plans. edit: unown is 8 rarity points then... I think that should be thought through along with delibird, etc. __________________ 1985, before the Iowa-Michigan game, Coach Fry sent a guard out to long snap during pregame punting warmups just to mess with Schembechler, then turned his back while the guard wildly snapped the ball over the punter's head, off the turf, and into the second row. Schembechler, watching the display, asked Fry, "You're not going to let that guy long snap today, are you?" Fry responded, "Coach Schembechler, I don't plan on punting." Go Hawkeyes

Feb 22nd, 2011, 10:48:29 AM	#54
Chomper The Sharptooth Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 301 The Great Beyond (GMT -4)	And Luvdisk is 6... It's never come up yet but I feel like Sleep Talk might need to be changed later on. As it stands if a trainer uses Sleep Talk the Ref will either have to "randomly" select themselves (we aren't random, that's why we're linked to an RNG) or number every single attack they have and use whichever the RNG lands on. I have three ideas on how it could work differently 1. Let the trainer choose. Make the Energy cost equal to their move plus Sleep Talk (6). It'll be almost a hinderance to use consecutive turns (10 + attack, 14 + attack, etc). The only real problem with this Sleep Talk + Status Recovery move unless we want less sleep which is always a distinct possibility. 2. Randomly select from three moves used last round. A whole lot simpler than a big huge random selection. 3. Randomly select from last three unique options. Makes sure they don't have only one or two choices to be "randomly" picked. The odds make them work like a CroPokemon even if they don't initiate their own rest. __________________ Fun fact: ASB Ho-oh, Groudon, Kyogre, Dialga, Palkia, Reshiram and Zekrom have more stars than Arceus. Mewtwo is one of the more average legends, having less stars than the fairies.

Feb 22nd, 2011, 4:46:09 PM	#55
mewtwo15026 Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 431 At the bottom of Cerulean Cave. NOTE: IRC Name = VLADDY	I don't know if this is best mentioned here or in the Data Audit, but... The Damage Calculator mentions Weight-Based / Full-Body attacks. Could you mention which attacks are and aren't in the Audit just as a reminder? __________________ "When digging yourself a hole, always bring a ladder." CAP ASB Team VioletEye