CAP 1 - Part 2 -(Main Type Poll)

reachzero · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:44:46 AM

It is time to choose the primary typing of CAP 1! There are four options in this poll, Flying, Grass, Ghost and Steel.

As you know, we are now using instant runoff voting, the details of which can be found here: http://www.smogon.com/cap/process/process_rules . This means that you may vote for as many of the four types as you like, in order of preference. A typical vote might look like:

Quote:

Flying
Grass
Ghost
Steel

Any comments that the voter has would go below the votes in non-bold text. Bold text is used to determine what the user's votes are, so none of the supplementary text should be in bold.

Please post only your votes in this thread, this is not a discussion thread. If you wish to discuss the vote, I encourage you to do so on #cap on IRC.

Remember, the concept for CAP 1 is:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Admiral_Korski

Concept: Momentum
General Description: This will be a Pokemon that can be utilized to gain or regain momentum for a player's team at any point in the match as its primary function.
Justification: Gen. 5 is a very powerful metagame. As such, most battles are won by the smarter strategist who can best maneuver around his/her opponent's onslaught to gain even a single turn's advantage, potentially clinching them the match. This process of gaining and regaining momentum is most often the defining element that makes a winner and a loser out of a single Pokemon battle. Any top player in this metagame should agree that momentum is the most crucial element in any given match; however, "momentum" itself is a rather vaguely defined term that is never really explored in concrete terms. Is it keeping opposing teams on the defensive? Forcing switches? Good prediction? Spamming U-turn? These have all been approaches to achieving momentum, but they are also player-side and largely synonymous with "strategy," as opposed to Pokemon-side and regarding a Pokemon's role on the team. Certainly there are threats like Ferrothorn/Gliscor (defensive) and Scizor/Latios/Voltlos, etc., etc. (offensive) that can achieve momentum as we know it, but there is no current niche for a "momentum Pokemon" because the concept has been purely delegated to players and not to Pokemon.
Questions to be Answered:
-How do we define momentum in terms of competitive Pokemon? What factors make current Pokemon able to achieve momentum and how can we incorporate that information into a successful CAP?
-How do different styles of play (Weather-based offense, stall, bulky offense, etc.) use momentum to achieve their goals and how can our CAP play to those strategies in an effort to take their momentum away?
-What type of traditional role (sweeper, tank, wall, support) would a Pokemon like this most resemble? Would it have to be able to fit more than one of these roles to fit in a variety of teams?
-How will the different playstyles be affected by the addition of a Pokemon that can regain offensive/defensive momentum at any given point? Will offensive teams play more conservatively? Will defensive teams play more recklessly? Will everything simply adapt to a new threat and move on normally?

This poll will remain open for 24 hours. Choose wisely!

Charmander · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:47:05 AM

Ghost
Steel
Grass
Flying

Ghost/Steel typing is pretty cool with all the resistances and immunities it gives, and since we're looking for momentum, it would help with switching in easily.

Axaj · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:48:09 AM

Flying
Ghost
Steel
Grass

snowcone · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:49:15 AM

Steel
Flying
Grass
Ghost

smashlloyd20 · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:50:35 AM

Steel
Flying
Grass
Ghost

Berserker Lord · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:51:35 AM

Ghost
Grass
Steel
Flying

**macle** · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:54:27 AM

Flying
Grass
Ghost

Full_Korbe · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:00:15 PM

Ghost
Flying
Grass
Steel

Brammi · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:03:54 PM

Flying
Grass
Ghost
Steel

Lack of poison makes me cry.

Alchemator · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:05:29 PM

Flying
Ghost
Grass
Steel

Let's get it Flying!

JGSabino · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:05:48 PM

Grass
Ghost
Flying
Steel

No love for Grass-types?

Limewire · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:07:02 PM

Ghost
Steel
Flying
Grass

Xiom · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:09:08 PM

Flying
Ghost
Grass

barty the beetle · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:09:47 PM

Steel
Ghost

What? He said we could vote for As many as we want. He said nothing about having to choose Everything.

But if it had passed, I'd most likely voted for Poison too. Oh well, you can't get everything in life.

Plusle · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:10:44 PM

Steel
Flying
Ghost
Grass

hoblaph · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:14:35 PM

Flying
Grass
Ghost
Steel

bugmaniacbob · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:15:59 PM

Flying
Grass
Ghost
Steel

Onetwobanana · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:18:46 PM

Ghost

Grass

Flying

**Tobes** · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:19:45 PM

Ghost
Steel
Flying
Grass

Bartman101 · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:20:39 PM

Ghost
Steel
Grass
Flying

ungulateman · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:21:29 PM

Ghost
Flying
Grass

It would've been nice to have another Bug-type. Ah well.

Robo-Ky · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:37:32 PM

Ghost
Steel
Flying
Grass

srk1214 · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:38:38 PM

I still believe that Water would have been the best. Nevertheless:
Flying
Ghost
Grass

Grass is last because I am very concerned that two very different good momentum gaining Grass Pokemon already exist: Whismicott and Ferrothorn.

***Oglemi**** · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:40:19 PM

Flying
Ghost

**capefeather** · Mar 6th, 2011, 12:40:23 PM

Ghost
Flying
Grass
Steel

Mar 6th, 2011, 11:47:05 AM	#2
Charmander Mission Complete Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,690 Great Falls, VA Mentor	Ghost Steel Grass Flying Ghost/Steel typing is pretty cool with all the resistances and immunities it gives, and since we're looking for momentum, it would help with switching in easily. __________________

Mar 6th, 2011, 11:50:35 AM	#5
smashlloyd20 Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,814 Erry day im HEAD SMASHING	Steel Flying Grass Ghost __________________ Ten million fireflies

Mar 6th, 2011, 11:54:27 AM	#7
macle ribbit Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,724 Wisconsin Mentor	Flying Grass Ghost __________________ Art for Articles Help Write In-game Articles Last edited by macle; Mar 6th, 2011 at 12:16:43 PM.

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:03:54 PM	#9
Brammi Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,458 Wollongong	Flying Grass Ghost Steel Lack of poison makes me cry. __________________ You might be aware of scramble challenges. Well I want one for Fire Emblem 7. I want 12 names not including the Lords to have as my squad. Feel free to give me restrictions on top that in a scramble challenge like way. PM/VM, either works fine, just make sure to specify you are giving me a person for the scramble. Erk, Sain, Harken, Lowen, Canas. 5/12

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:05:29 PM	#10
Alchemator my god if you don't have an iced tea for me when i come back i'm gonna flip Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,762 Zrack attack!	Flying Ghost Grass Steel Let's get it Flying! __________________ Twitter \| Blog

Mar 6th, 2011, 11:48:09 AM	#3
Axaj Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 241 California	Flying Ghost Steel Grass

Mar 6th, 2011, 11:49:15 AM	#4
snowcone Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 40	Steel Flying Grass Ghost

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:00:15 PM	#8
Full_Korbe Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 52 France	Ghost Flying Grass Steel

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:05:48 PM	#11
JGSabino Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 122 Portugal	Grass Ghost Flying Steel No love for Grass-types?

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:07:02 PM	#12
Limewire Back from the dead. Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 730 New York City	Ghost Steel Flying Grass __________________ Jolteon DW [GP 1/2] ASB Profile

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:09:08 PM	#13
Xiom Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 118	Flying Ghost Grass

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:09:47 PM	#14
barty the beetle Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 58	Steel Ghost What? He said we could vote for As many as we want. He said nothing about having to choose Everything. But if it had passed, I'd most likely voted for Poison too. Oh well, you can't get everything in life.

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:10:44 PM	#15
Plusle Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,041	Steel Flying Ghost Grass __________________ VGC 2011 Seniors UK 1st \| VGC 2012 Seniors UK 4th \| Worlds 2011 18th \| Worlds 2012 19th \| Winter Battle and International Challenge January Seniors 1st

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:14:35 PM	#16
hoblaph Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 215 Canada	Flying Grass Ghost Steel __________________ ASB Profile \| "Nous faisons le mal, mais nous le faisons bien." "My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:15:59 PM	#17
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Mar 6th, 2011, 12:18:46 PM	#18
Onetwobanana Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 93	Ghost Grass Flying

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:19:45 PM	#19
Tobes Woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,250 GONER	Ghost Steel Flying Grass __________________

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:20:39 PM	#20
Bartman101 Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,058 Hiatus	Ghost Steel Grass Flying __________________ Who knows when I'll be back... RIP GARY SPEED (1969-2011)

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:21:29 PM	#21
ungulateman Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,119 Cambodia	Ghost Flying Grass It would've been nice to have another Bug-type. Ah well. __________________ What's the difference between mainstream religion and Scientology? A few thousand years.

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:37:32 PM	#22
Robo-Ky Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 322 Everyone deserves the right to two weiners.	Ghost Steel Flying Grass

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:38:38 PM	#23
srk1214 Supreme Master of Trivia Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 807	I still believe that Water would have been the best. Nevertheless: Flying Ghost Grass Grass is last because I am very concerned that two very different good momentum gaining Grass Pokemon already exist: Whismicott and Ferrothorn.

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:40:19 PM	#24
*Oglemi I crashed my car into the bridge, I don't care Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,523 ~(^.^)~	Flying Ghost

Mar 6th, 2011, 12:40:23 PM	#25
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