Pokémon Black/White in-game discussion - Page 62

cantab · Mar 26th, 2011, 1:37:56 AM

Sy123: Haxorus, obviously. You can get Altaria and Kingdra in the wild too. Flygon and Salamence in White provided Eliza and Grace respectively are in your White Forest. And then there's Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem of course, but you probably don't want to use them.

As for suitable looking, not Dragon Type Pokemon: Tyranitar. Aerodactyl. Tropius.

Sy123 · Mar 26th, 2011, 1:44:03 AM

Thanks cantab, I think my final team will be:
~Dragonite
~Druggidon
~Altaria
~Kingdra
~Tropius
~Aerodactyl

I used Haxxorus in my last playthough and didnt want to grind for evolution again.
Only things that require work are probably Aerodactyl

firewater · Mar 26th, 2011, 2:09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Demo-Kun

Wrong. You can get EVs at any level this generation, even 100.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EVs#Generation_V

...wait, since when did pokemon stop getting EV's at any time before Level 100/maxing EV's?

Its_A_Random · Mar 26th, 2011, 3:15:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat firewater

...wait, since when did pokemon stop getting EV's at any time before Level 100/maxing EV's?

Pre-Gen V, only Pokemon between Levels 1-99 could gain EV's from battles. This Generation, they (GF) decided to change when the EV's are applied to the stats from when you gain a level to after the battle finishes. This means a Pokemon can now gain EV's at whatever level the please.

The King of Harts · Mar 26th, 2011, 8:36:27 AM

EV training is tricky this Gen. To Speed train my Sandile and Darumaka I needed to go against Basculin, who learn Aqua Jet at an early level and have adaptability. And I just finished Special Attack training my Joltik, but I had to go against mostly Litwick to do it. Good thing there's a nurse in Celestial Tower, or I may have just given up on it.

TM13IceBeam · Mar 26th, 2011, 9:40:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The King of Harts

EV training is tricky this Gen. To Speed train my Sandile and Darumaka I needed to go against Basculin, who learn Aqua Jet at an early level and have adaptability. And I just finished Special Attack training my Joltik, but I had to go against mostly Litwick to do it. Good thing there's a nurse in Celestial Tower, or I may have just given up on it.

...

Exp Share abuse?
Switching abuse?

Lou Cypher · Mar 26th, 2011, 11:12:07 AM

XP Share abuse doesn't really grant a bunch of EV's (why settle for 1/2 when you can get 5/6), so you're set on the whole retreating schtik. Which gets annoying fast, especially if they Aqua Jet you, meaning you have to sit through 2 attacks.

Sajak · Mar 26th, 2011, 11:16:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Lou Cypher

XP Share abuse doesn't really grant a bunch of EV's (why settle for 1/2 when you can get 5/6), so you're set on the whole retreating schtik. Which gets annoying fast, especially if they Aqua Jet you, meaning you have to sit through 2 attacks.

That doesn't split the EVs unless that changed this gen.

Dunk · Mar 26th, 2011, 12:43:07 PM

Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but can anyone confirm if the Trainer Card counts the number of pokemon you have encountered/defeated?

**Stellar** · Mar 26th, 2011, 12:48:39 PM

Just a tip for EV training: If you are using an offensive Pokemon that will have 252 Attack Stat / 252 Speed, you can go to one of the post game routes and fight two Audino (lv50) for 4 HP EVs (make sure you don't have Pokerus yet on the Pokemon). You should be about level 30 afterward which makes training a lot easier.

Sharopoyezd · Mar 26th, 2011, 2:39:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Dunk

Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but can anyone confirm if the Trainer Card counts the number of pokemon you have encountered/defeated?

simple question simple answer maybe? the trainer card does not display that iirc

Mikazukinoyaiba · Mar 26th, 2011, 2:44:16 PM

Hey guys, what are the best places for level-grinding in this game, now that the Vs. Seeker is still unavailable and we don't even get gym leader rematches

Sajak · Mar 26th, 2011, 2:59:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mikazukinoyaiba

Hey guys, what are the best places for level-grinding in this game, now that the Vs. Seeker is still unavailable and we don't even get gym leader rematches

Audino farming is the best, so any place with grass.

AuraSphere · Mar 26th, 2011, 3:07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Demo-Kun

Wrong. You can get EVs at any level this generation, even 100.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EVs#Generation_V

That's true. EV-training at Level 100 will not only give the standard EVs, it'll instantly change the stat if you have enough EVs.

The King of Harts · Mar 26th, 2011, 5:41:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Lou Cypher

XP Share abuse doesn't really grant a bunch of EV's (why settle for 1/2 when you can get 5/6), so you're set on the whole retreating schtik. Which gets annoying fast, especially if they Aqua Jet you, meaning you have to sit through 2 attacks.

Exactly. I've said several times, but I hate doing this part of Pokemon, so I don't want to make it more tedious than it already is by doing a lot of switching and running and whatnot. Besides, I said it was tricky, not hard.

Anyways, working on catching Terrakion and I just caught this
HP: 7 - 8
Att: 28 - 30
Def: 18 - 19
SpA: 30 - 31
SpD: 11 - 12
Speed: 31

HARDY!!!!

I could've lived with this if it was Adamant, Lonely, or Naughty, maybe even a +spe nature because it's going to be a Rock Polisher, but I can't live with Hardy.

Let's try this again...for the umpteenth time...

SMZ · Mar 26th, 2011, 5:57:43 PM

Got the "real" game today.

I have a question I asked in the simple q thread but no one answered, so maybe here it gets more attention:
in route 1 belle mentions a "challenge" who catches the most Pokemon(in route 1 minus surfing it'd be starter + patrat + lillipup + audino), now if you do do you actually get something or just a free-edge challenge? I'm asking because I'm curious if she gives me an item or something, and Audino is hard to find without bike/running shoes.

AriadosPerson · Mar 26th, 2011, 6:15:33 PM

I'm pretty sure it doesn't really do anything, and you don't need to catch an Audino - Cheren and Belle only catch one Pokemon, and you can just catch both Patrat and Lillipup.

SMZ · Mar 26th, 2011, 6:19:12 PM

Yeah just figured that out, thanks anyway.

Arcanite · Mar 26th, 2011, 6:22:50 PM

No, nothing happens.

Sy123 · Mar 26th, 2011, 6:51:08 PM

That sucks, I did what you did SMZ, and expecting an item from Bianca nothing happens

cantab · Mar 26th, 2011, 8:09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Dunk

Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but can anyone confirm if the Trainer Card counts the number of pokemon you have encountered/defeated?

Contrary to the previous answer, it does. It's not obvious, but on the back side of the Trainer Card, where the ID No, Time, and Adventure Started date are displayed, that upper box can be scrolled by dragging the stylus. Doing so will reveal a wealth of other info, including Wild Pokemon Encounters and Trainers Battled. (No separate Caught/Defeated/Ran From/Lost To stats though).

feral_brute · Mar 26th, 2011, 8:17:53 PM

Figured I'd post this here since it does pertain to in-game mostly..
Just hatched this Mienfoo and was thrilled! Until I noticed it had Inner Focus....
Mienfoo - #619 (Jolly)
HP: 27 - 29
Att: 31
Def: 0 - 16
SpA: 7 - 14
SpD: 25 - 31
Speed: 30 - 31

Sy123 · Mar 26th, 2011, 9:08:05 PM

Anyway I was soft-resseting for Adamant Magikarp from Salesman, and each time no matter what it had the characteristic 'Alert to sounds' I checked on Serebii's IV calculator and it either has a 26 or 31 IV each time. I wasnt RNG abusing, but the same stat poppep up each time.
Can anyone confirm this because it means this Magikarp is rarer than we thought

XienZo · Mar 26th, 2011, 9:11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sy123

Anyway I was soft-resseting for Adamant Magikarp from Salesman, and each time no matter what it had the characteristic 'Alert to sounds' I checked on Serebii's IV calculator and it either has a 26 or 31 IV each time. I wasnt RNG abusing, but the same stat poppep up each time.
Can anyone confirm this because it means this Magikarp is rarer than we thought

It might have the generic in-game 20-31-20-20-20-20 spread. Check the other stats.

Either way, it likely has a pre-set IV spread.

Sy123 · Mar 26th, 2011, 9:26:31 PM

The 31 is in speed by the way, and for attack, no matter how hard I try, I levelled it up to lv6 and every time it will not have a 31 Attack IV. (Max of 29)
Pre-set Ivs. Likely

I finnaly got an Adamant one anyway and I will be going into the Battle Subway to see its IVs and lv50

Mar 26th, 2011, 1:37:56 AM	#1526
cantab Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,358 England	Sy123: Haxorus, obviously. You can get Altaria and Kingdra in the wild too. Flygon and Salamence in White provided Eliza and Grace respectively are in your White Forest. And then there's Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem of course, but you probably don't want to use them. As for suitable looking, not Dragon Type Pokemon: Tyranitar. Aerodactyl. Tropius. __________________ "If I may guess, Emboar might be an exception to the norm that the scalding liquid is expelled from the Pokémon's mouth" - Cobraroll, on Emboar learning Scald. "Nothing like a cup of tea to start off the day" - Professor Oak, EP025.

Mar 26th, 2011, 12:43:07 PM	#1534
Dunk Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,053 After 11 months of soft resetting, I got a shiny Latias.	Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but can anyone confirm if the Trainer Card counts the number of pokemon you have encountered/defeated? __________________ Credit to xanax for the avatar.

Mar 26th, 2011, 2:44:16 PM	#1537
Mikazukinoyaiba Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 314	Hey guys, what are the best places for level-grinding in this game, now that the Vs. Seeker is still unavailable and we don't even get gym leader rematches __________________ Pokemon White: 2752 0462 0996 All of my pokemon are personally IV bred and EV trained, no pokesav or RNG manipulation but I don't mind playing against those that do. As long as the hacks are "legal". Do not use unreleased DW abilities.

Mar 26th, 2011, 6:15:33 PM	#1542
AriadosPerson Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 141 That magical place where everybody loves Ariados.	I'm pretty sure it doesn't really do anything, and you don't need to catch an Audino - Cheren and Belle only catch one Pokemon, and you can just catch both Patrat and Lillipup. __________________ Being new, if I say something stupid, feel free to say so. I've lurked for a while before joining, though, so I THINK I know I'm talking about.

Mar 26th, 2011, 6:22:50 PM	#1544
Arcanite Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,252	No, nothing happens. __________________ ASB Team

Mar 26th, 2011, 1:44:03 AM	#1527
Sy123 Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,034 Orbiting the Sun	Thanks cantab, I think my final team will be: ~Dragonite ~Druggidon ~Altaria ~Kingdra ~Tropius ~Aerodactyl I used Haxxorus in my last playthough and didnt want to grind for evolution again. Only things that require work are probably Aerodactyl

Mar 26th, 2011, 8:36:27 AM	#1530
The King of Harts Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 282 Mount Crawford, VA	EV training is tricky this Gen. To Speed train my Sandile and Darumaka I needed to go against Basculin, who learn Aqua Jet at an early level and have adaptability. And I just finished Special Attack training my Joltik, but I had to go against mostly Litwick to do it. Good thing there's a nurse in Celestial Tower, or I may have just given up on it.

Mar 26th, 2011, 12:48:39 PM	#1535
Stellar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,264	Just a tip for EV training: If you are using an offensive Pokemon that will have 252 Attack Stat / 252 Speed, you can go to one of the post game routes and fight two Audino (lv50) for 4 HP EVs (make sure you don't have Pokerus yet on the Pokemon). You should be about level 30 afterward which makes training a lot easier.

Mar 26th, 2011, 5:57:43 PM	#1541
SMZ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,509 Kingdom of the Two Seas	Got the "real" game today. I have a question I asked in the simple q thread but no one answered, so maybe here it gets more attention: in route 1 belle mentions a "challenge" who catches the most Pokemon(in route 1 minus surfing it'd be starter + patrat + lillipup + audino), now if you do do you actually get something or just a free-edge challenge? I'm asking because I'm curious if she gives me an item or something, and Audino is hard to find without bike/running shoes.

Mar 26th, 2011, 6:19:12 PM	#1543
SMZ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,509 Kingdom of the Two Seas	Yeah just figured that out, thanks anyway.

Mar 26th, 2011, 6:51:08 PM	#1545
Sy123 Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,034 Orbiting the Sun	That sucks, I did what you did SMZ, and expecting an item from Bianca nothing happens

Mar 26th, 2011, 8:17:53 PM	#1547
feral_brute Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 60 Virtus et honor	Figured I'd post this here since it does pertain to in-game mostly.. Just hatched this Mienfoo and was thrilled! Until I noticed it had Inner Focus.... Mienfoo - #619 (Jolly) HP: 27 - 29 Att: 31 Def: 0 - 16 SpA: 7 - 14 SpD: 25 - 31 Speed: 30 - 31 __________________ White FC: 1377 6471 4445 Et tu Brute?

Mar 26th, 2011, 9:08:05 PM	#1548
Sy123 Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,034 Orbiting the Sun	Anyway I was soft-resseting for Adamant Magikarp from Salesman, and each time no matter what it had the characteristic 'Alert to sounds' I checked on Serebii's IV calculator and it either has a 26 or 31 IV each time. I wasnt RNG abusing, but the same stat poppep up each time. Can anyone confirm this because it means this Magikarp is rarer than we thought

Mar 26th, 2011, 9:26:31 PM	#1550
Sy123 Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,034 Orbiting the Sun	The 31 is in speed by the way, and for attack, no matter how hard I try, I levelled it up to lv6 and every time it will not have a 31 Attack IV. (Max of 29) Pre-set Ivs. Likely I finnaly got an Adamant one anyway and I will be going into the Battle Subway to see its IVs and lv50