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101 Signs You Need Help in UU

Discussion in 'BW UU' started by hilarious, Oct 26, 2012.

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  1. Queen of Randoms

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    Sep 23, 2012
    Yeah, that's what I meant by just "haphazardly" tossing it on any Pokémon. You need a definite purpose behind exploding this gen, like on suicide Azelf. It's not just a nice move to have when you feel like dishing out damage anymore, which I still see people doing. Azelf has the reason and the attack stat to back up an Explosion, so he gets the okay.
  2. Warb


    Dec 5, 2012
    Yeah that reminds me of that one game which I would have lost if my opponent didn't have a Scarf Heracross with Guts instead of Moxie derp (although I really couldn't tell whether it was actually intended or not, but why would you scarf a guts heracross >_>)

    Having said that, I don't think this is a legitimate reason to be labled as "need help in UU", as it just has to do with people forgetting to put abilities on their pokes for whatever reason (probably brain malfunction)
  3. RabidChipmunk


    Jul 18, 2012
    Scarfing a Guts Heracross actually isn't a bad idea; it's an excellent way of luring in status and punishing the opponent.
  4. cim

    cim happiness is such hard work
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    Jun 3, 2007
    It's got some merit. The way people tend to beat Scarf Heracross now is to bring in something bulky before it gets an Attack boost, or when it only has one attack boost. Once you're just nailing additional sweepers, the boosted Attack stops mattering. Combine that with people just assuming Heracross is Moxie, and Guts becomes super viable. I still prefer Moxie because it's possible to set up "checkmate" scenarios where they can sacrifice a sweeper and get OHKOed or bring in their check and get 2HKOed, but Guts is mighty tempting.
  5. Warb


    Dec 5, 2012
    I can see it working out by outminding the opponent; it's just, that in that one game I played, I had a Crobat at 53% with rocks up on my field. I sacked my Houndoom to Heracross and since it didn't have moxie, my crobat was able to take the scarfed CC and live with 9% to roost up. It went downhill for my opponent at that point.
    I don't know whether or not Guts was intended, but either way, I bet my opponent kicked himself for going for Guts at that point :x
  6. Metal Sonic

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    Sep 14, 2012
    What's wrong with scarfed guts heracross? I use guts scarfed heracross =.=

    Especially useful in Sableye 1v1s or when I dont give a ---- about a spinner and there are toxic spikes on the field which idgaf to clear
  7. Lazybeef


    Sep 19, 2012
    Scarf guts hera is a good status absorber. Give it some wish support and it can give most teams hell.
  8. LionKingMax


    Apr 30, 2011
    Scarf Guts with Sleep talk Hera got it's merits.

    Anyway, another sign you need help in UU is if you use Dusclops (has it been said already?)
  9. Darkiway


    Jan 2, 2013
    I beg to differ with the whole Dusclops thing. I use dusclops intelligently for what good uniqueness it has. (Better sp def) Because that's what my team needs. And laddering to top 30 in UU was the easiest thiing ever.

    #43- Ridiculing your opponent for using a lower tier pokemon.

    This should be obvious, but you shouldn't underestimate a pokemon just because it's from a lower tier. Especially when playing against admittngly good players. They put it on their team for a reason. And you would rather elimnate quickly than just wait around to find out why.
  10. Psylink


    Sep 9, 2012
    #44. Running a stall team without countering SD Heracross/Cobalion. That's self explanitory. Everyone likes their new toys! Old toys are fun too. XD (That reminds me of when I single handedly OHKOed Blissey with Porygon-Z and swept with it after recharge. :D)
  11. Zarco


    Feb 22, 2011
    #45 You use Pokemon that were common in DP UU thinking that they're automatically still good.

    This one's not as relevant these days but I still see it. A whole lot changed in UU with the shift of the last generation. Pokemon like Milotic, Registeel, Arcanine, Ambipom, and Mismagius used to be the cream of the crop in the day. The metagame centered around threats like these. Nowadays, though, they have a lot of things to compete with. They only work if you need very specific niches, but often you're better off with something else. This is basically a specific example of the advice "pick the best things for your team", as opposed to what you like or what you think is cool (I know Milotic is pretty and Registeel s your favorite legendary and whatever, but there are better bulky waters usually and Bronzong is awesome).
  12. noname4505


    Feb 10, 2012
    too lazy to see if this has been already done or not, but whatever
    #25 people who think that you're bad if you don't run the standard sets exactly as they are in smogon.
    I was laddering on PO the other day and I was using a cofag with knock off > rest because I don't like running rest on a poke without sleep talk or a cleric. My opponent decided to switch in his chandelure against my cofag (he u-turned out with mienshao and was most likely predicting the will-o-wisp) and I used knock off, knocking off his chandelure's choice scarf. This guy raged at me so hard it because knock off wasn't listed as a move on the defensive set on smogon. Not just UU players, but some people in general need to realize that the smogon movesets are just a guide, not an absolute.
  13. psVoltage

    psVoltage formerly Volty

    Nov 7, 2012
    O god, i hate people like that lol. Sometimes i think people just like to make shit up to complain about.
    That brings me to my point aswell.
    -People that thing x is cheap and is banned competitive play.
    Yes this happens way too much, i just had this guy complain how broken focus band is ._. I'm about to give up on the world lol.
  14. wiithepeople


    Jan 9, 2011
    #26 You lack an counter to Suicune or Raikou.
  15. Redjar


    Sep 26, 2010
    #46 After finding out that the opposing Heracross is not scarfed you think that this makes it not threat/ not being scared of SD, Sub or SD+Sub Heracross

    I've taken out several gligars (and entire teams) by subbing and swords dancing. Eventually Heracross is able to use either stab to 2HKO gligar. We all know nothing else in the metagame will live when Hera reaches that power. I only started using this set after I got destroyed by it myself.
  16. bobbyvaporeon


    Dec 21, 2012
    Does Dusclops SHadow Sneak count
  17. kokoloko

    kokoloko same team, but better
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    Aug 21, 2009
    yeah this thread is so bad now i'm closing it
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