with all these gay teams that have been showing up recently, I just uploaded my old stall team that's been so far pretty awesome like. I did change one pokemon (and swapped moves on a couple), so it's not EXACTLY the same, but the idea is still there. I originally made this team to kind of...mock stall teams since I was never really good at making them...the first draft of this team had such facemelters as Toxic Heracross, Omastar, and a Skarmory with the best moveset ever (which I won't disclose). and it actually was damn awesome and won despite its intentionally bizarre setup, but I figured I could refine it into something better, which leads to this team. what I love about this team is the fact that it's never gotten "old." it's always seemed to work no matter what's "trending" in the metagame, which I guess reinforces my feelings that a really, really good team is timeless. this may sound dumb, but I think this was the team that established me as one of the "premier" GSC people...for whatever that's worth. which I don't really understand, since I didn't really think this team was much different than other stall teams... Raikou (Jimera) @ Leftovers ~Roar ~Thunderbolt ~Reflect (originally Crunch) ~Rest >>>back in those days Roar Raikou was pretty much unheard of and Rest without Heal Bell was tut-tutted. not so much anymore. I liked Crunch back in the day to hit stuff like Rhydon and maybe get a -SpDef on Snorlax/Blissey, but Reflect has been working well so far. Starmie (Water) @ Leftovers ~Rapid Spin ~Surf ~Psychic (originally Reflect) ~Recover >>>unless it's Spinning away Spikes it doesn't do much, though I guess the added insurance against something like Charizard is handy. I originally just changed the two moves on Starmie and Raikou before I made the other major change; now that I have more effective Ghost coverage, should I opt for another 4th move? Light Screen, Toxic, Thunder Wave, Thunderbolt, and Ice Beam all sound very appealing in their own ways. Tyranitar (originally Rhydon) (T. Rex) @ Leftovers ~Rest ~Rock Slide ~Pursuit ~Curse >>>the Rhydon set was Curse/EQ/RS/Rest, so not too much difference here. I love Rhydon but unfortunately until everyone stops shittin' themselves about Exeggutor this will have to do. gives me awesome Ghost coverage, but I miss that sexy sexy STAB Earthquake from Rhydon. helps against nerdy BD + Curse/Fire Blast Relaxos, Exeggutors, Gengars, what-have-yous...I'd like to put maybe Screech over Rest, but Rest helps it outlast all the things I just mentioned. Snorlax (Giant) @ Leftovers ~Double-Edge ~Rest ~Flamethrower ~Toxic >>>8D 8D 8D 8D 8D 8D Heracross (Pede) @ Leftovers ~Sleep Talk ~Seismic Toss ~Rest ~Megahorn >>>8D 8D 8D 8D 8D 8D Skarmory (Coctrice) @ Leftovers ~Whirlwind ~Drill Peck ~Rest ~Sand-Attack >>>what's Sand-Attack for again? so I guess this gives away my cover but, you know, whatever.