Writing this up based on Tobes's skeleton.
[Overview]
<p>Thundurus's Incarnate forme is a bit of an oddball. Contrary to what it stats would have you believe, Thundurus is most often seen as a bulky Prankster user, possessing key moves such as Thunder Wave and Swagger to check Swift Swimmers and other lightning fast Pokemon thanks to Prankster's priority boost. Even with little investment, it still packs a punch with STAB Thunderbolt working off a 125 base Special Attack, and although it can't OHKO anything with a bulky set, it's more than defensive enough with the right investment to stick around long enough to actually follow through on 3 or 2HKOs even with two Pokemon attacking it at once. Although it is weak to Rock Slides, especially from the likes of Excadrill and Tyranitar, Thundurus's ability to spread paralysis, fish for Confusion and/or Paralysis hax, and still maintain some offensive pressure ensures that this ever-impressive Genie can never be duplicated.</p>
[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Flying
move 4: Taunt / Substitute / Swagger
item: Sitrus Berry / Electric Gem
ability: Prankster
nature: Calm
evs: 164 HP / 8 Def / 56 SpA / 252 SpD / 28 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
- Bulky Paralysis support, Prankster Thunder Wave is annoying
- Tbolt STAB is obvious
- HP Ice to hit Dragons or HP Flying as a good secondary STAB that hits Grass-types harder
- Taunt and Swagger can be used to disrupt the opponent, and Swagger can be used to pump teammates with Lum or Persim Berries.
- Substitute functions sort of like Protect here due to priority, blocks status, syngerizes well with Sitrus Berry
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- EV Spread lets you live Dragon Gem Draco Meteors from Timid Latios 93.75% of the time, Terrakion's Rock Slide, and (88% of the time), Electric Gem Thunder from Thundurus-T. HP EVs not maximized to reduce Sandstorm damage. Outspeeds Jolly Breloom.
- HP Flying (31/31/31/30/30/30) spread: 164 HP / 4 Def / 60 SpA / 248 SpD / 32 Spe. (30/30/30/30/30/31) Spread: 168 HP / 8 Def / 60 SpA / 248 SpD / 28 Spe (same stats)
- Sitrus Berry helps survivability. Electric Gem can be used for a powerful hit. Leftovers is an option if Sitrus needs to be used elsewhere.
- Protect
- Grass Knot
- Partner this with stuff that wants slowed opponents. Garchomp, Metagross, Tyranitar, etc.
- Doesn't like Terrakion or Tyranitar; Intimidate and/or Fighting types like Hitmontop / own Terrakion / Heracross are appreciated.
- Fake Out support: Hitmontop, Infernape, etc
[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Flying
move 4: Substitute / Taunt / Swagger
item: Electric Gem / Focus Sash
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 8 HP / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
- More offensively-inclined option
- Tbolt / Twave obvious
- Hidden Powers for obvious reasons
- Substitute for a little protection
- Taunt / Swagger can disrupt opponents; Swagger to aid teammates that abuse it
- See previous set's AC about teammates
- Helping Hand (Politoed, etc)
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- Electric Gem for a very strong initial hit
- Charti Berry to take Rock Slides
- Grass Knot
- Protect
[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Thunderbolt / Thunder
move 2: Hidden Power Flying
move 3: Grass Knot
move 4: Volt Switch
item: Choice Specs
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 8 HP / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 HP / 2 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 31 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
- Catches opponents off guard due to repeated powerful hits. Advantages over Thundurus-T are speed (outpacing Latios, Garchomp, Terrakion, etc.) and surprise value.
- Tbolt for generic STAB, Thunder wrecks things on rain
- HP Flying for secondary STAB
- Grass Knot smashes Gastrodon, Tyranitar, etc
- Volt Switch to get out of a bad situation while doing chip damage
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- HP Ice
- Prankster options (Thunder Wave, Taunt, etc)
- Goodstuffs for teammates
- Helping Hand
- Fighting-types
- Politoed if using Thunder
[Other Options]
- Physically Defensive
- Rain Dance
- Thunder
- Discharge
- Embargo
- Defiant Physical with Wild Charge (shitty gimmick)
[Checks and Counters]
- Excadrill
- Tyranitar, Terrakion
- Mamoswine, Weavile
- Scarf Abomasnow
- Scarf Cloyster
- Lum Kingdra
[Overview]
[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Flying
move 4: Taunt / Substitute / Swagger
item: Sitrus Berry / Electric Gem
ability: Prankster
nature: Calm
evs: 164 HP / 8 Def / 56 SpA / 252 SpD / 28 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Flying
move 4: Substitute / Taunt / Swagger
item: Electric Gem / Focus Sash
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 8 HP / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Thunderbolt / Thunder
move 2: Hidden Power Flying
move 3: Grass Knot
move 4: Volt Switch
item: Choice Specs
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 8 HP / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 HP / 2 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 31 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
[Other Options]
[Checks and Counters]
- Prankster T-Wave
- Prankster is useful for other stuff like Taunt / Swagger / Protect
- Excellent offensive complement that can also screw over the opponent's support
- Strong and fast, but can also be fairly bulky with appropriate investment; Speed loss isn't too crippling because of Prankster
- Pretty good movepool
[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Flying
move 4: Taunt / Substitute / Swagger
item: Sitrus Berry / Electric Gem
ability: Prankster
nature: Calm
evs: 164 HP / 8 Def / 56 SpA / 252 SpD / 28 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
- Bulky Paralysis support, Prankster Thunder Wave is annoying
- Tbolt STAB is obvious
- HP Ice to hit Dragons or HP Flying as a good secondary STAB that hits Grass-types harder
- Taunt and Swagger can be used to disrupt the opponent, and Swagger can be used to pump teammates with Lum or Persim Berries.
- Substitute functions sort of like Protect here due to priority, blocks status, syngerizes well with Sitrus Berry
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- EV Spread lets you live Dragon Gem Draco Meteors from Timid Latios 93.75% of the time, Terrakion's Rock Slide, and (88% of the time), Electric Gem Thunder from Thundurus-T. HP EVs not maximized to reduce Sandstorm damage. Outspeeds Jolly Breloom.
- HP Flying (31/31/31/30/30/30) spread: 164 HP / 4 Def / 60 SpA / 248 SpD / 32 Spe. (30/30/30/30/30/31) Spread: 168 HP / 8 Def / 60 SpA / 248 SpD / 28 Spe (same stats)
- Sitrus Berry helps survivability. Electric Gem can be used for a powerful hit. Leftovers is an option if Sitrus needs to be used elsewhere.
- Protect
- Grass Knot
- Partner this with stuff that wants slowed opponents. Garchomp, Metagross, Tyranitar, etc.
- Doesn't like Terrakion or Tyranitar; Intimidate and/or Fighting types like Hitmontop / own Terrakion / Heracross are appreciated.
- Fake Out support: Hitmontop, Infernape, etc
[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Flying
move 4: Substitute / Taunt / Swagger
item: Electric Gem / Focus Sash
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 8 HP / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
- More offensively-inclined option
- Tbolt / Twave obvious
- Hidden Powers for obvious reasons
- Substitute for a little protection
- Taunt / Swagger can disrupt opponents; Swagger to aid teammates that abuse it
- See previous set's AC about teammates
- Helping Hand (Politoed, etc)
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- Electric Gem for a very strong initial hit
- Charti Berry to take Rock Slides
- Grass Knot
- Protect
[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Thunderbolt / Thunder
move 2: Hidden Power Flying
move 3: Grass Knot
move 4: Volt Switch
item: Choice Specs
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 8 HP / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 HP / 2 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 31 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
- Catches opponents off guard due to repeated powerful hits. Advantages over Thundurus-T are speed (outpacing Latios, Garchomp, Terrakion, etc.) and surprise value.
- Tbolt for generic STAB, Thunder wrecks things on rain
- HP Flying for secondary STAB
- Grass Knot smashes Gastrodon, Tyranitar, etc
- Volt Switch to get out of a bad situation while doing chip damage
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- HP Ice
- Prankster options (Thunder Wave, Taunt, etc)
- Goodstuffs for teammates
- Helping Hand
- Fighting-types
- Politoed if using Thunder
[Other Options]
- Physically Defensive
- Rain Dance
- Thunder
- Discharge
- Embargo
- Defiant Physical with Wild Charge (shitty gimmick)
[Checks and Counters]
- Excadrill
- Tyranitar, Terrakion
- Mamoswine, Weavile
- Scarf Abomasnow
- Scarf Cloyster
- Lum Kingdra