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Online Competition 2017 No Holds Barred

Discussion in 'Cartridge Formats' started by cant say, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. cant say

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  2. RBG

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    Skymin in Gen VII lets go!
  3. Arcticblast

    Arcticblast Ultra Ball off of Abyssal Hand for Lele for Guzma for game
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    THREE ZYGARDE COMPLETE
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  4. Leader Wallace

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    A Battle Spot version of Anything Goes? This will be interesting. Few Questions: Pokemon automatically become lv.100 right? No need to level them up right? What are some good Pokemon to use multiple copies of? Interesting note: This is the first SM online competitions to allow mega stones.
    Shaymin returns to land form if you put in the PC...
  5. Ninjaofquest

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    So exactly how powerful would Marshadow (given that people may or may not have it) turn out to be in this meta? And what exactly would I be able to use against it since I can't get it here in America?
  6. RBG

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    They changed it in Gen VII (along with Hoppa Unbound), so that it reverts when you withdraw it, not when you deposit it.
  7. Leader Wallace

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    It looks really promising, since it has an amazing speed tier and unreisisted STAB. One answer could be Tapu Koko, since it's faster and can hit it super effectively.
    I didn't know that. Thanks.
  8. Arcticblast

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    update: FIVE ZYGARDE COMPLETE and an Aegislash because I need an Ice resist somwhere

    dream team (open)

    Zygarde @ Groundium Z
    Ability: Power Construct
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Thousand Arrows
    - Outrage
    - Extreme Speed

    Zygarde @ Dragonium Z
    Ability: Power Construct
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Thousand Arrows
    - Outrage
    - Extreme Speed

    Zygarde @ Yache Berry
    Ability: Power Construct
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Thousand Arrows
    - Outrage
    - Extreme Speed

    Zygarde @ Mago Berry
    Ability: Power Construct
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Impish Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Thousand Arrows
    - Rock Slide
    - Glare

    Zygarde @ Leftovers
    Ability: Power Construct
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Thousand Arrows
    - Substitute
    - Protect

    Aegislash @ Leftovers
    Ability: Stance Change
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
    Quiet Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
    - King's Shield
    - Substitute
    - Toxic
    - Shadow Ball
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  9. eddiefiv

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    Well this has to be the most interesting format they've released. I'm guessing the mons to beat would be Mega Salamence, Marshadow, Complete Zygarde and Deoxys. Probably plays similarly to OU but with a few Ubers mixed in.

    Something that immediately comes to mind are the mindgames that can be made by taking two different versions of three different Pokemon that can have multiple distinct sets to make it nearly impossible to play around effectively. Two each of Salamence, Celesteela and Tapu Koko would do the trick.
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    The last cycle of SM begins : all Mega Stones available and allowed, coming back to Singles, crazy rules with some legendaries in the place.
    Time to bring my Marshadow and have some fun !
  11. Moose And Goose

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    Here's a list of legendary pokemon minus the ones we can't use for the competition (from bulbapedia)
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    Articuno • Zapdos • Moltres • Mew
    Raikou • Entei • Suicune • Celebi • Regirock • Regice • Registeel • Latias • Latios
    Jirachi • Deoxys
    Uxie • Mesprit • Azelf • Heatran • Regigigas • Cresselia • Phione* • Manaphy • Darkrai • Shaymin
    Victini • Cobalion • Terrakion • Virizion • Tornadus • Thundurus • Landorus • Keldeo • Meloetta • Genesect
    Zygarde • Diancie • Hoopa • Volcanion
    Tapu Koko • Tapu Lele • Tapu Bulu • Tapu Fini • Cosmog • Cosmoem • Necrozma • Magearna • Marshadow
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  12. Siggu

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    So Battle Spot Singles without Item Clause and with Mythicals? Interesting.

    (Also, no Species Clause? That's really big)
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    omg what will this metagame look like lmao
  14. Mijzelffan

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    Here's hoping the diancite gets released before this competition starts, seems like it would be an interesting mon to use in this meta.
  15. ethan06

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    also, here's hoping that marshadow gets released worldwide, bc wouldn't that suck :/

    ngl i've been wanting a bss format with mythicals included for a long long time so i'm really keen for this format. magearna in particular seems like something i'd be really keen to look at as a blanket check to a lot of the things that are allowed in this format, such as genesect, hoopa, diancie, darkrai sorta, necrozma celebi etcetc. if anyone overreacts to the presence of marshadow and brings a scarf lele then magearna will punish that too. zygarde-complete and the deoxys formes will be broken, as will marshadow, so i'd imagine that most teams would need a bulky answer to cope with that pokemon. a particularly cool pick that i can think of would be tapu koko, for its ability to hard check keldeo, manaphy, hoopa i guess, skymin, darkrai (by blocking sleep and outspeeding) and marshadow (again, by being a faster fairy-type). seriously, 130 is such a fantastic speed tier for this competition and tapu koko has all the needed tools to make it work, at least in theory.

    getting back to zygarde for a second, i feel like thousand arrows will have to be considered on every team that wants to do well. bug stab could be useful in this format for catching the numerous psychics (not to mention darkrai) offguard so i'd say that something like mega heracross or yanmega could potentially be useful here. old mate skymin will be by far and away the most common 1karrows switch-in tho.

    e: btw baton pass is dead pretty much purely because of spectral thief lmao
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    I tried it. It's not very good.
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    Ash-Greninja is legal
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    Seems like Japanese players have a significant advantage in this competition, given that only they can have access to Marshadow's Z-move.
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  20. Siggu

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    Unless Marshadow is sneaking around this month for us. Not likely given how the japanese event was handled but who knows?

    So... from the looks of it, which Pokemon are viable to run all together?

    The first thing that comes to my head right now is that disgusting 6 Deoxys-Attack offense from AG (though I cannot pull it off as I only have one and it's still in Alpha Sapphire), with the possibility of swapping one with a Tapu Lele with a Terrain Extender, I guess.
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  22. Zukrad

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    Is 3v3, so you don't have to run 4-5 Deoxys. Running Tapu Lele and 2 Deoxys should be enough, which gives you space for stuff like Father, Marshadow and Magearna
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    ... good point, so I'd only need a second Deoxys. And some Caps as I've ran out of them.

    (And what are you calling "Father", by the way?)
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    Ooooooooooh I've been waiting for this for YEARS. Thank you GameFreak!

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