2vs2 Tier List (as of december)

#1
Normally I'd do something like this, but it appears MythTrainerInfinity of Serebii beat me to it.

Infinity said:
It's a bit sketchy so if you have contributions please tell me and then we can make the proper adjustments.

Double Battle Tier list:

TIER 1: UBERS
Deoxys
Deoxys-fr
Deoxys-lg
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Mew
Mewtwo
Rayquaza

TIER 2: STAPLE
Aerodactyl
Deoxys-e
Gyarados
Kingdra
Metagross
Salamence
Zapdos

TIER 3: STANDARD
Claydol
Dusclops
Exeggutor
Flygon
Gengar
Heracross
Jumpluff
Kabutops
Lanturn
Ludicolo
Moltres
Omastar
Rhydon
Shiftry
Slaking
Victreebel

TIER 4: COMMON
Alakazam
Armaldo
Blaziken
Charizard
Celebi
Clefable
Cradily
Donphan
Dodrio
Dragonite
Electrode
Gardevoir
Gorebyss
Hariyama
Huntail
Jirachi
Jolteon
Machamp
Manectric
Mantine
Marowak
Milotic
Miltank
Minun
Misdreavus
Ninjask
Porygon2
Plusle
Raikou
Regice
Regirock
Sceptile
Shedinja
Skarmory
Slowbro
Snorlax
Starmie
Steelix
Suicune
Swampert
Tauros
Tyranitar
Vaporeon
Weezing

TIER 5: BORDERLINE UNDERUSED
Altaria
Arcanine
Articuno
Blastoise
Blissey
Cloyster
Crobat
Electabuzz
Entei
Espeon
Forretress
Golem
Granbull
Hitmontop
Houndoom
Kangaskhan
Lapras
Luvdisc
Magneton
Medicham
Mr. Mime
Muk
Poliwrath
Quagsire
Qwilfish
Registeel
Sableye
Sunflora
Swellow
Tropius
Venusaur
Ursaring
Zangoose

TIER 6: GOOD UNDERUSED
Absol
Ampharos
Azumarill
Banette
Breloom
Cacturne
Camerupt
Dugtrio
Fearow
Gligar
Golduck
Grumpig
Hitmonlee
Jynx
Linoone
Lunatone
Magmar
Meganium
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Piloswine
Pinsir
Primeape
Sandslash
Shuckle
Solrock
Tentacruel
Typhlosion
Vileplume
Walrein
Wobbuffet
Umbreon

TIER 7: AVERAGE UNDERUSED
Aggron
Ariados
Bellossom
Dunsparce
Exploud
Feraligatr
Flareon
Girafarig
Glalie
Hitmonchan
Hypno
Kecleon
Octillery
Persian
Raichu
Scizor
Scyther
Sharpedo
Slowking
Smeargle
Stantler
Swalot
Tangela
Togetic
Xatu

TIER 8: POOR UNDERUSED
Arbok
Dewgong
Kingler
Ledian
Ninetales
Noctowl
Parasect
Pidgeot
Politoed
Rapidash
Raticate
Seviper
Sudowoodo
Torkoal
Venomoth
Whiscash
Wigglytuff
Yanma

TIER 9: BARELY USABLE
Butterfree
Crawdaunt
Farfetch'd
Furret
Lickitung
Nosepass
Relicanth
Seaking
Sneasel
Wailord

TIER 10: CRAP
Aipom
Beautifly
Beedrill
Castform
Chimecho
Corsola
Delcatty
Delibird
Dustox
Illumise
Magcargo
Masquerain
Mawile
Mightyena
Murkrow
Pelipper
Roselia
Spinda
Volbeat

TIER 11: UNDESERVING OF MENTION
Ditto
Unown

So what do you think...?

Speed and power is the name of the game in Double Battles.
original topic: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=99498

Imo:

- Ludicolo, Shiftry, Gengar, Exeggutior, and Moltres need to be moved up toe 2nd tier
- Jolteon, Huntail, & Gorebyss need to be moved to 3rd tier
- Umbreon needs a massive jump to either 3rd or 4th tier.
- Blissey need to be 4th tier, possibly even 3rd tier, its that good in 2vs2 (not as good as in 1vs1 but still good)
- Ninjask needs to be moved to either borderline or one of the UU tiers
 
#3
Clefable should be bumped up one.

I really don't see why there are so many "UU" tiers. Basically, tiers should go something like:

Ubers
Staple
Other mainstays
Common
Usable
Crap

Maybe insert one tier in between "usable" and "crap," but I've found that in double battles, the line between something like Sudowudo and Ditto or Unown is so thin that it's practically non-existant. I dunno, maybe an intermediate between Usable and Crap would be for stuff that has some obscure use, like Butterfree who can Skill Swap Compoundeyes and stuff like that.

I think the line between "common" and "usable" needs to be drawn. I mean, I really don't feel that Jolteon should be in the same tier with Mantine, but then Mantine isn't really UU in any regard, I'm sure he'd be banned if a 2vs2 UU metagame were to develop.

Looking at it, there seems to be a lot wrong with the "common" tier. This is a single tier that contains Jirachi and Suicune, and Misdreavus and Miltank. I mean, you've got Gorebyss in the same tier with Alakazam, what's up with that?
 
#6
Looking at Victreebel, I'd say it warrants some use. Chlorophyll is a godsend in 2vs2, and just for that I'm willing to give the bel a spin.
 

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#7
How about just Uber, Standard, BL, UU? Or maybe one or two more tiers, but honestly 23902690 tiers is just asking for people to get nitpicky.
 
#8
I think that 'Staple' gives people more insight in what they need to counter. I would be okay with just four tiers though.
 
#10
Code:
TIER 1: UBERS

Deoxys 
Deoxys-fr 
Deoxys-lg 
Groudon 
Ho-oh 
Kyogre 
Latias 
Latios 
Lugia 
Mew 
Mewtwo 
Rayquaza 


TIER 2: STAPLE 

Aerodactyl
Deoxys-e 
Exeggutor (moved from Standard)
Gengar (moved from Standard)
Gyarados 
Kingdra 
Metagross 
Moltres (moved from Standard)
Salamence 
Zapdos


TIER 3: COMMON

Alakazam 
Armaldo 
Blaziken 
Blissey (moved from Borderline)
Charizard 
Celebi 
Claydol
Clefable 
Cradily 
Donphan
Dodrio 
Dragonite 
Dusclops
Electrode
Flygon
Gardevoir
Gorebyss 
Heracross
Huntail 
Jirachi 
Jolteon 
Jumpluff
Kabutops
Lunturn
Ludicolo
Mantine 
Marowak 
Medicham (moved from Borderline)
Milotic 
Miltank 
Minun
Misdreavus 
Omastar
Porygon2 
Plusle
Raikou 
Regice 
Regirock 
Rhydon
Sceptile
Shedinja 
Shiftry
Slaking
Skarmory
Slowbro 
Snorlax 
Starmie
Stantler (moved from Average Underused)
Steelix 
Suicune
Swampert 
Swellow (moved from Borderline)
Tauros 
Togetic (moved from Average Underused)
Tyranitar
Victreebel
Weezing 


TIER 4: BORDERLINE

Altaria 
Arcanine 
Articuno 
Blastoise 
Cloyster 
Crobat 
Electabuzz 
Entei
Espeon 
Forretress 
Golem 
Granbull 
Hitmontop 
Houndoom 
Kangaskhan 
Lapras 
Lunatone (moved from Good Underused)
Mr. Mime
Muk 
Poliwrath 
Quagsire 
Qwilfish 
Registeel 
Solrock (moved from Good Underused)
Tentacruel (moved from Good Underused)
Tropius 
Vileplume(moved from Good Underused)
Venusaur 
Umbreon (moved from Good Underused)
Ursaring 
Zangoose

TIER 5: UNDER USED

The rest
[Hariyama (moved from Common)
Luvdisc (moved from Borderline)
Magneton (moved from Borderline)
Manectric (moved from Common)
Machamp (moved from Common)
Ninjask (moved from Common)
Sableye (moved from Borderline)
Sunflora (moved from Borderline)
Vaporeon (moved from Common)]

My toughts about it. Maybe Borderline has too much pokes.
 
#11
Revising this as time goes by:

Code:
TIER 1: 00BERS
Deoxys
Deoxys-fr
Deoxys-lg
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Mew
Mewtwo
Rayquaza

TIER 2: OVERUSED
Aerodactyl
Deoxys-E
Exeggutor
Gengar
Gyarados
Jolteon
Kingdra
Ludicolo
Metagross
Moltres
Salamence
Shiftry
Slaking
Umbreon
Zapdos

TIER 3: STANDARD
Alakazam
Blissey
Celebi
Claydol
Clefable
Dusclops
Entei
Flygon
Gorebyss
Heracross
Houndoom
Huntail
Jirachi
Jumpluff
Kabutops
Lanturn
Minun
Omastar
Plusle
Regice
Regirock
Rhydon
Snorlax
Starmie
Tauros
Victreebel

[b]From here things get a bit shoddy, so fixes are welcome[/b]

TIER 4: BORDERLINE

Armaldo
Arcanine
Articuno
Blaziken
Charizard
Cradily
Crobat
Donphan
Dodrio
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Electrode
Gardevoir
Hariyama
Luvdisc
Machamp
Manectric
Mantine
Marowak
Medicham
Milotic
Miltank
Misdreavus
Ninjask
Porygon2
Quagsire
Raikou
Registeel
Sceptile
Shedinja
Skarmory
Slowbro
Steelix
Solrock
Suicune
Swampert
Tropius
Tyranitar
Vaporeon
Weezing

TIER 5: UNDERUSED
Altaria
Blastoise
Cloyster
Electabuzz
Espeon
Forretress
Golem
Granbull
Hitmontop
Kangaskhan
Lapras
Magneton
Mr. Mime
Muk
Poliwrath
Qwilfish
Sableye
Sunflora
Swellow
Venusaur
Ursaring
Zangoose

TIER 6: NEVER USED
Absol
Ampharos
Azumarill
Banette
Breloom
Cacturne
Camerupt
Fearow
Gligar
Golduck
Grumpig
Hitmonlee
Jynx
Linoone
Lunatone
Magmar
Meganium
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Piloswine
Pinsir
Primeape
Sandslash
Shuckle
Tentacruel
Typhlosion
Vileplume
Walrein
Wobbuffet

TIER 7: THE UNLISTED (help these poor hobos find a home)

Aggron
Ariados
Bellossom
Dunsparce
Exploud
Feraligatr
Flareon
Girafarig
Glalie
Hitmonchan
Hypno
Kecleon
Octillery
Persian
Raichu
Scizor
Scyther
Sharpedo
Slowking
Smeargle
Stantler
Swalot
Tangela
Togetic
Xatu
Arbok
Dewgong
Kingler
Ledian
Ninetales
Noctowl
Parasect
Pidgeot
Politoed
Rapidash
Raticate
Seviper
Sudowoodo
Torkoal
Venomoth
Whiscash
Wigglytuff
Yanma
Butterfree
Crawdaunt
Farfetch'd
Furret
Lickitung
Nosepass
Relicanth
Seaking
Sneasel
Wailord
Aipom
Beautifly
Beedrill
Castform
Chimecho
Corsola
Delcatty
Delibird
Dustox
Illumise
Magcargo
Masquerain
Mawile
Mightyena
Murkrow
Pelipper
Roselia
Spinda
Volbeat
Ditto
Unown
 
#13
Uber, OU, BL, UU, NU should be it. Maybe two tiers for OU if you really want to separate the lesser used OUs from the ones that are always used.
 
#15
imo you should make a list from scratch so we don't have to bother with credit, especially when it's some shitty list from serebii we'd need to credit
 

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#17
Since there is no such thing as playing 2v2 UU, or because it is so undevelopped, I don't think you need to distinct UU and NU. Uber, BL, Standard, UU is all you need, MAYBE with another standard tier (though I wouldn't call them OU and standard, that's confusing since it's practically the same).