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5th Gen Database and Moveset Error compilation

Discussion in 'Past Generation Contributions' started by Oglemi, Nov 4, 2011.

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  1. Oglemi

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    Similar to this thread, this thread is designed to compile database errors so you guys can stop posting in the small changes thread!

    Here's some examples of the stuff that belongs in this thread. Don't expect this stuff to get changed right away though, this is for stuff down the road.

    P.S. I won't be updating the OP regularly, so don't bother me to do so! Eventually stuff will get put in Hide tags.

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    Torkoal is missing the following moves, although they're not all important, Stealth Rock and Earth Power are listed on a set and not in the 'moves' section.

    Iron Tail - Gen 4 TM
    Secret Power - Gen 4 TM
    Earth Power - Gen 4 tutor
    Captivate - Gen 4 TM
    Stealth Rock - Gen 4 TM / Dream World(?)
    Natural Gift - Gen 4 TM
    Snore - Gen 4 tutor
    Mud Slap - Gen 4 tutor
    Rollout - Gen 4 tutor
    Headbutt - Gen 4 tutor

    By the looks of things, most BW Pokemon are missing moves they can get via Gen 4 and be transferred.
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    Chansey and Blissey aren't listed as learning Wish on the Wish page.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/wish

    Wobbuffet and Wynaut aren't listed as learning Tickle.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/tickle

    Linoone, Zigzagoon, Suicune, Entei, and Raikou aren't listed as learning Extremespeed.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/extremespeed

    Darkrai and Arceus aren't listed as learning Spacial Rend or Roar of Time.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/spacial_rend
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/roar_of_time

    Arceus isn't listed as learning Shadow Force.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/shadow_force

    Heatran isn't listed as learning Eruption.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/eruption

    Entei isn't listed as learning Howl, Crush Claw, or Flare Blitz.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/howl
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/crush_claw
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/flare_blitz

    Raikou isn't listed as learning Zap Cannon, Aura Sphere, or Weather Ball.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/zap_cannon
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/aura_sphere
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/weather_ball

    Suicune isn't listed as learning Sheer Cold, Air Slash, or Aqua Ring.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/sheer_cold
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/air_slash
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/aqua_ring

    Victini isn't listed as learning V-Create, Fusion Flare, or Fusion Bolt.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/v-create
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/fusion_flare
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/fusion_bolt

    Celebi isn't listed as learning Nasty Plot.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/nasty_plot

    Also, none of these Pokemon have the moves listed on their moves pages either.
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/chansey/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/blissey/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/wobbuffet/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/wynaut/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/linoone/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/zigzagoon/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/suicune/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/entei/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/raikou/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/darkrai/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/arceus/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/heatran/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/victini/moves
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/celebi/moves

    That's all of the event exclusive moves I can think of.
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    The current Move Dex only lists the moves they can learn in Gen 5. It does not list tutor/event moves from Gen VI or III.
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    It's actually suppose to be Magic Coat. The author was referring to the move not the ability.
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    Why is this though? As has been said before, Smogon is first and foremost a competitive community; if people wanted to know what Pokemon learns what move from just one specific generation then they can look at sites like this and this for that information. If the moderators have a reason for this not being so, then all these complaints about certain Pokemon not having a certain move can be eliminated.

    While we're on the note of moves from a previous generation, though, let's talk about GenIII learnsets (I'm not sure if this has already been called to attention, so forgive me if it has). Through Pal Park, Pokemon which learned a TM or tutor move from the third generation could be transfered over to the fourth generation. Thus, even if a Pokemon didn't learn a move in the fourth generation, it could still have the move even in the fifth generation if it learned it in the third generation.
  9. Oglemi

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    >.>

    It's not like we don't want our database to be complete, it's the fact that nobody except those with root access (i.e. about 2 of the current admins) are able to fix the current moveset errors.

    Obviously if we could fix it we would. How dumb would it be for us to say "nope we aren't going to list every move they can learn cuz we feel like it."
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    Vibrava missing from Strategy Pokedex

    Hey all! I'm brand new, and I registered just because I realized this earlier tonight... so hopefully this is the right place to post this (and maybe this has already been pointed out).

    Anyway, as far as I can see, Vibrava doesn't even have an entry in the B/W pokedex. Check it out:
    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/

    Thanks!
  11. Oglemi

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    That's because it's under the NFE tag. Our Strategydex only lists analyses for those fully evolved Pokemon and some NFEs that are usable in some tier, and most middle evolutions such as Vibrava are so bad that they aren't even usable in NU.

    There is a message under "Pokemon" on the Strategydex page that says "Change your preferences here." Click the here and you'll be taken to this page and from there you can change the tier threshold from Limbo to NFE.
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    Ahhhh, that makes perfect sense, I can't believe I didn't catch the preferences link. Anyway, I'm not surprised that it is that bad. Sorry about that!
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    Chansey move set

    On the counter set, it lists: Softboiled / Wish as a move, but since wish was an event move, and counter is an egg move, I'm pretty sure she can't have both in the same set. Right?
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    Counter was also a 3rd Gen Tutor attack and is legal with Wish.

    Edit: This is also pretty silly and minor, but Gligar and Gliscor are missing Dream Eater from their 4th and 5th gen movepools. They could learn the attack by tutor in FRLGE, but lost the ability to learn it by TM in later gens, a lot like the way Qwilfish learns Swords Dance.
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    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/feint

    Feint's Base Power is listed as 50 in the BW section, despite having its Base Power reduced to 30 in Gen 5. This error is also shown in the move lists of the Pokemon that learn Feint.

    Komodo edit: Higher ranked staff can edit this; super mods/admins help me out here?
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    http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/volt_switch

    Herdier and Victini are listed as receiving the move. Moreover, they are listed as the only Pokémon to receive the move.

    Edit: I set the tier threshold to NFE (if that makes a difference), and I now realize that the problem isn't limited to Volt Switch. For instance, Sucker Punch is listed as being learned by Emboar and Serperior, Hidden Power by literally five Pokémon, and Leech Seed by Liepard.

    Wonder what's up.
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    There are a lot of errors with hydreigon's movepool in the strategydex. It says he gets recover and future sight (pretty sure he doesn't get these). In addition to this, he's missing a ton of his moves. Forgot to say it also says he gets hammer arm. Fairly certain he doesn't get that either.
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    The whole Database for 5th gen seems to be fucked up at the moment there are also a lot pokeon who have absolutly no moves listed in their 5th gen move list.
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    the movedex is glitched at the moment and the sprites for unova mons are also not showing up, these are known problems which will hopefully be fixed posthaste
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    (I think this is supposed to go here but I'm not sure.)

    http://www.smogon.com/rb/moves/karate_chop

    Karate Chop's RB page lists it as a Fighting-type move. However, it was a Normal-type move in Gen I and was changed to Fighting in Gen II.
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    The thing about Basculin-B and the Rock Head ability is it cannot have Egg moves, it can only be Adamant nature, and its IVs can only be 20/31/20/20/20/20.

    EDIT: It's been fixed in Black 2/White 2, so now Blue-striped Basculin can have Rock Head naturally.
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