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Just a question, what do I need to know if I'm going to RNG abuse Wild Pokemon instead of Stationary ones?

What I have currently..
1. Syncrhonizers
2. My Seed, delay, spread.
3. Sweet Scenters.

My questions..
1. What are encounter slots and where could I find them?
 
I have a problem finding my Parameters for White. I have captured 2 Pokémon on 09-24-2011 at 12:14:49 with the Down Button pressed.

MAC Adress: 0009BFDF3BB1

IVs: 6/2/7/26/20/13
18/0/18/5/11/14

However, I get no results, I have used Sweet Scent though.
 

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I'm doing 540 turns now. I made a small mistake by make 1 step, what would that do to my PID frame? When I caught the Pokémon I saw it did have the right IV's, but when I checked it's nature/gender/ability, I found out he was 44 PID frames too high. Is that because of that 1 step?

Edit: When the minute chance while I'm advancing PID frame, does that advance my PID frame as well?
That step should do +2. Did you take into account the initial advancement of ~40? That would explain it.
 
After 128 steps precisely: Mienfoo (ESV 1), Modest, F, Ability 1
After 128 steps + 1 turn (without moving): Golett, Bold, Ability 1
After 128 steps + 1 step: Same as above
After 128 steps + 2 steps: Druddigon, Careful, M, Ability 1
After 128 steps + 1 save: Mienfoo, Gentle, F, Ability 1
Bumping this from about 3 pages back.

Someone already mentioned the difference between running and walking, but can someone explain why there's a discrepancy between a step advancement and a save advancement? I thought they were both supposed to be by 1.

I'm looking for the sequence of natures / abilities above to figure out my PID starting frame but I can't find anything that matches within the first 400 or so PID frames, which is ridiculous. Maybe I'm overlooking something very simple but can someone help me?

Thanks.

EDIT: By the way I've confirmed all these captures at least twice and have double checked all their IVs to make sure they're all on the same frame/seed. I don't have a Chatot to test with (should be getting once soon, but it's irrelevant because I can't bring it with me since I'm hitting a spread on frame 3 and can only bring 2 pokemon with me).
 

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Bumping this from about 3 pages back.

Someone already mentioned the difference between running and walking, but can someone explain why there's a discrepancy between a step advancement and a save advancement? I thought they were both supposed to be by 1.

I'm looking for the sequence of natures / abilities above to figure out my PID starting frame but I can't find anything that matches within the first 400 or so PID frames, which is ridiculous. Maybe I'm overlooking something very simple but can someone help me?

Thanks.
Step/turn is +2 advancement vs saving is +1
 
Step/turn is +2 advancement vs saving is +1
The OP should probably reflect that then, since it says that walking in areas with wild pokemon advances by 1 frame per step, no?

So does that also mean that the initial 128 running paces that I use to advance the IV RNG advances my PID RNG by 256 instead of 128? In that case I'm looking in the wrong range to find my PID frames.

At PID frame 321 I found what I needed.
321: Modest, Regenerator Mienfoo
322: Gentle, Regenerator Mienfoo (+1, save)
323: Bold, Klutz Golett (+2, turn or step)
324: irrelevant
325: Careful, Druddigon (+4, two turns or steps)

I feel dumb now because it was relatively easy, but I was working off the main post the whole time. Someone should update that.

Thanks Toast.
 
Alright... All the help I'm getting on getting a Shiny starter, while appreciated, is beyond me.

Anyone maybe have some free time, patience, and AIM to guide me step by step to maybe help me see where I'm going wrong? I'm JJackson9995 on AIM. There's a few things I'm getting hung up on such as:

Understanding if my IV seed has to have a Shiny PID (And if so, how to find it). I have a great initial IV seed, but I don't understand if I need to find a PID specific to that seed, or if that doesn't matter.
Verifying which frames I'm hitting in regards to PID (Don't understand how to verify my PID at the very start of the game) (Don't really understand how to find out the SID/ID I'm hitting.
And various other things that I'm sure will pop up, or that I missed.

I just think with AIM, I might be able to more quickly "get" where I'm making my mistakes... And hopefully catch on a bit more quickly.
 

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The OP should probably reflect that then, since it says that walking in areas with wild pokemon advances by 1 frame per step, no?
Huh.. never noticed. It's actually a little inconsistent to walk but 90+% of the time, it's +2. Someone will have to update that.
 
Thanks for the help, finally found a PID frame with the right ESV and nature and was capable of synchronizing 12 frames after my initial. Sprayed a 2nd repel after mine ran out, did 6 turns in place and caught it. :)

Feel like I'm starting to get the hang of this now lol...
 

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Another problem/bug I've noticed on the recent RNG reporter (the Beta 5):
In this recent version, we can have the option to type our min & max frames, as opposed to only max frames...
But it seems that there's some bug in this version...

In my case, I'm trying to find non c-gear frames higher than 1, which is at frame 8 in my case.
I type the min and max frames to be 8...but the results were inaccurate...
But if I set the min frame=1 and max frame=8, it gave me the seeds at frame 8...but not if I set my min and max frames to be my target frame. Is it a bug?
 
Will it be the same when you hit your seed over and over and .... like it's related to the seed?

And what is the "thing" I heard about "Chatot to advance my PIDRNG"?
When you record a custom call for Chatot, every time it plays in-game (by flashing over it's summary, for example), it advances the PIDRNG by one. At least, that's what I've been told. I don't have one to confirm yet.
 
Huh.. never noticed. It's actually a little inconsistent to walk but 90+% of the time, it's +2. Someone will have to update that.
Is it ever more than 2? Because I hit a frame that required 33 advances (started at 47, target was 80), and it ended up being 15 turns plus 1 save to hit it.
Another problem/bug I've noticed on the recent RNG reporter (the Beta 5):
In this recent version, we can have the option to type our min & max frames, as opposed to only max frames...
But it seems that there's some bug in this version...

In my case, I'm trying to find non c-gear frames higher than 1, which is at frame 8 in my case.
I type the min and max frames to be 8...but the results were inaccurate...
But if I set the min frame=1 and max frame=8, it gave me the seeds at frame 8...but not if I set my min and max frames to be my target frame. Is it a bug?
Might be related to the bug with roamers where setting max frame=1 gives you bad results.
 

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Will it be the same when you hit your seed over and over and .... like it's related to the seed?
The initial frame will be consistent to the seed, but the whole usually +2 thing seems more save-dependent. It's partially related to step counter and partially something else.

Edit:
@Voodoo
It is rarely more than 2. But yes, I've personally seen it advance 4 and 6 as well.
 
Can someone clarify the gender ratios on the PID frames?

Like when it says:

M/M/F/F

I know that has to do with the species ratio of males to female, but which numbers are which ratios exactly, etc? Seems like basic information and I know that I've seen it before somewhere, but I can't seem to figure out where.

EDIT: Also, for the purpose of breeding, how do you know which parent is parent A and which is parent B? Is it just the order you drop them off in the day care?
 
Can someone clarify the gender ratios on the PID frames?

Like when it says:

M/M/F/F

I know that has to do with the species ratio of males to female, but which numbers are which ratios exactly, etc? Seems like basic information and I know that I've seen it before somewhere, but I can't seem to figure out where.
All of the percentages are the chance of being female. So just check the individual species's info on Bulbapedia or wherever and see which one fits it.
 

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Can someone clarify the gender ratios on the PID frames?

Like when it says:

M/M/F/F

I know that has to do with the species ratio of males to female, but which numbers are which ratios exactly, etc? Seems like basic information and I know that I've seen it before somewhere, but I can't seem to figure out where.

EDIT: Also, for the purpose of breeding, how do you know which parent is parent A and which is parent B? Is it just the order you drop them off in the day care?

Since I believe you are using PPRNG:
The gender displays what gender the pokemon will be for each possible percentage split between male/female in the following order: 87.5/12.5, 75/25, 50/50, 25/75.

So, in your example of M/M/F/F:
If it's a 87.5% male species, it will be male.
If it's a 75% male species, it will be male.
If it's a 50% male species, it will be female.
If it's a 25% male species, it will be female.

This ordering is slightly different than what's in RNG Reporter (which is 50/50, 87.5/25.5, 75/25, 25/75, I believe), because I found that ordering to be unintuitive.

As for the A and B, it seems it's A is first in and B is second in, unless you're using a ditto, if you go by this post. I may update the output when doing ditto breeding to be clearer.
 

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do i have to enter the full seed or the half seed in rng breeding?
and i've heard,that who is parent A/B depends on gender
if so,which gender is parent A/B?
So according to the link you posted, if your using a ditto to breed, you should put ditto in second?
Order doesn't matter now, only the gender of the parents. So if the other Pokemon is female, Ditto counts as the male, and vice-versa.
 
Since I believe you are using PPRNG:
The gender displays what gender the pokemon will be for each possible percentage split between male/female in the following order: 87.5/12.5, 75/25, 50/50, 25/75.

So, in your example of M/M/F/F:
If it's a 87.5% male species, it will be male.
If it's a 75% male species, it will be male.
If it's a 50% male species, it will be female.
If it's a 25% male species, it will be female.

This ordering is slightly different than what's in RNG Reporter (which is 50/50, 87.5/25.5, 75/25, 25/75, I believe), because I found that ordering to be unintuitive.

As for the A and B, it seems it's A is first in and B is second in, unless you're using a ditto, if you go by this post. I may update the output when doing ditto breeding to be clearer.
So for non-ditto breeding, A is first in and B is second in. For breeding with a ditto, A is the mother and B is the father? What happens if you're breeding ditto with a genderless pokemon?
 
OmegaDonut,

First of all, thanks for your hard work. I have realized that all the C-gear Seed Frame value are now universally -2 (if it was on frame 140 on an older RNGreporter, it is now on frame 138 on the latest release) to ignore the unusable frame 1 and 2. However, the original post still says the initial frame for C-gear to be frame 3. Shouldn't the OP be edited to reflect the update?