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5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by Slashmolder, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. Exiledwolf

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    When RNGing with egg to get flawless iv, is it normal to keep getting the same result all the time? (i.e same nature and same ability every egg?)
  2. woaska

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    No, it doesn't match. It's 8 different seeds though, but it jumped to the last one. I'll check the others. Maybe I should say I'm RNGing eggs.
  3. xtr3m3

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    @Wolf: You're too vague; what do you mean?
  4. Exiledwolf

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    When RNGing for a flawless solosis, i did all the steps correctly with fram advancement and such. However when i keep hatching the egg, i keep getting:

    Male Solosis with 31/31/31/31/31/0 ivs
    rash nature and overcoat ability.

    When i reset, i always keep getting this same egg. I thought if you reset, you get different eggs with different natures and abilities
    Oh and one of my parents are holding an everstone. the parents are a flawless ditto, and a bold solosis
  5. woaska

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    You need to advance the frame (i.e. chatter) to get different gender/nature/ability.
  6. thelukester92

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    Yeah, it generates seeds at nearby timer0 values and nearby times. I'm assuming you've hit the right time, so check the ones with the exact same times but different timer0 values first - then, if you still haven't found it, check the other seeds.
  7. thelukester92

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    Same as usual, just change "Encounter Type" in the time finder to "Wild Pokemon (Fishing)"
  8. xtr3m3

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    You mean soft reset AFTER you get your egg? No, once you get the egg it's already been determined. Though why would you reset if you're RNGing and doing the steps properly?

    Look on RNG reporter and see what frame the rash nature and whatever ability number overcoat is along with inheritance to see what frame you're on. If you're advancing the frame correctly NPCs are probably in the area screwing you over.
  9. woaska

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    No matches at all. Does the PIDRNG start directly at the first frame after calculating initial PIDRNG frame?

    Since I got hardy two times, isn't it most likely I did not get the wrong timer0? I actually don't know anything at all about timer0 though.

    The thing is, the natures/genders is often correct at my seed, but it's the chattering that makes me confusing...

    EDIT: Gah, I'm getting different result every time.
    1st try: Chattering once = Modest nature, sure it's fitting.
    2nd try: Chattering once = Bashful nature, it's fitting too.

    I'm gonna try chattering twice now to confirm...
  10. hipoke

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    Oh okay thanks. Just one last question for now. If i'm hitting the correct seconds but the wrong delay should I keep updating EonTimer after every single try, or compile an average over a few tries and update it like that?

    EDIT: Also, is there a way to RNG Shinies using C-Gear abuse?
  11. Kaasoljoyyx

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    In the wild, you're supposed to sweet scent to get a pokemon. For fishing, instead of sweet scenting, just fish. Couple things to keep in mind

    1. The sandstorm is gonna shift your PID frame like hell. You can get rid of it but

    2. Route 4 has wandering NPCs which will shift your PID. Since you're fishing, you may catch it early or later. I think it might be a little too unpredictable

    I actually RNGed a clamperl yesterday. I just went off luck, since clamperl + right nature with sychrnozier is roughly 15~18% chance (7~9 if you want a gender). Luckily the first thing I fished was the exact clamperl I wanted, even the right gender.
  12. Exiledwolf

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    Sorry, i meant i soft reset when the old man has the egg.
    And i dont do steps because i have set to pick it up at frame 8
  13. woaska

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    Are you trying to get a different ability/gender/nature on your egg by soft resetting and hit the same time?

    Also, a question from me: Once I collect the egg, I fly to Victory road to catch a random wild pokémon to see if I hit my seed. Sometimes, the IVs match frame 14, and sometimes it's frame 18. Does this matter in the same RNG process? I.e. if I get a frame 18 IV spread on my first chattering, then restart, chatter twice, get a frame 14 IV spread? Hope you understand my explanation. It's just a... curious question.
  14. Calech

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    If you're hitting some distance from your target (5+ frames away), update every time.

    If you're fairly close (within about 2-3 frames either side), keep trying and only update if you're consistently hitting the same wrong delay, as it's fairly normal to hit values within a small range - you are after all aiming for 1/60th second precision.

    Edit:

    I'm guessing you have 4 pokémon in your party? If so the short trip into Victory Road may be advancing your step counter to the point where it causes an IV frame advancement.
  15. Exiledwolf

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    Yeah, thats exactly what i want
    Oh, and my ditto is Japanese,and my solosis is english
  16. UsernameGoesHere

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    Wait so your egg is already being held by the daycare man? If so, the ability, gender, and nature are prefixed to that egg, and will NOT change. Even if you soft-reset until the end of time. So, just keep accepting eggs, hatch, do not get what you want, release.
  17. Exiledwolf

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    Oh and the ivs will still be the same for every egg?
  18. UsernameGoesHere

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    Even the IVs will remain the same if you keep soft-resetting when the daycare man is holding the egg. Your only option if you don't like it, is to keep breeding. (Trust me, it is PAINFUL to breed often, but I do it because I don't like cheating)
  19. woaska

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    Yes.

    You can change the nature/ability/gender though. You'll need a Chatot that knows chatter, and made it have a custom cry. I could explain the whole process if you want me to, but there is a lot of guides as well.
  20. UsernameGoesHere

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    You can do that with Chatot's custom cry? Never knew that.
    "You learn something new everyday." -Unknown.
  21. Exiledwolf

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    Oh i dont really know how to do that... any help?
    I do have the chatot though
  22. KingDustero

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    I hate to repost this, however it appears it has been buried and no one has seen it.

    Basically how do I get shinies with standard abuse?

    Again thanks in advance!
  23. woaska

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    Well, if you're saving in front of the day care man and then reset and entering the game in a different time, it will probably be different. But lets say you hit "A" at continue screen 2011-06-01 00:01 EACH time, then the nature and IVs will be the same.

    Which I assume you're doing Exiledwolf, if not, then I'm a bit unsure of how you can get the same IVs...

    I would love to trade you one but I'm in a middle of a RNGing that doesn't seem to work out.

    This guide is helpful: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3446600

    Once you get the Chatot and still need help, post here or PM me or whatever, and I'll explain it more to you.
  24. Peterko

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    so I´m having "fun" with a roamer
    I used the forum search function and found posts about starting PID frame of roamers and now I´m quite confused

    some say it´s around 550-750 for your starting PID frame if there is no prior weather before the roamer arrives and around 1500-1900 if it's raining before the roamer arrives

    I found another one stating his starting frame was around 460, another one said 1900-2000...and the spanish guy´s roamer guide that got translated had a starting frame of 621...

    I´m having trouble figuring out where mine is, I have no clue where to start the search and finding a pattern in 2000 frames is a bit much to ask (not to mention that wasn´t prepared to hunt down the roamer before I saved in the house, now I have to heart scale mean look hypnosis my gengar each try lol...

    when I come out ouf the house, there´s a mild rain (it´s spring) and after the roamer flies off it gets heavy and stops afterwards...but the mild rain starts again on the route

    the seed is B30DC7265D3F0AC2 and here´s the natures I got

    +0 MODEST
    +0 MODEST
    +1 BASHFUL
    +1 BASHFUL
    +2 LAX
    +5 RASH
    +10 RASH
    +15 QUIRKY
    +20 HARDY
    +23 LONELY

    +x means chatots

    I´m thankful for whatever help I get, at least where I should search for the starting PID frame
  25. Exiledwolf

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    Oh i do have the chatot. But, technically this means that my pid frame is 48. The one that i want (Bold, ability 1 is in 52). So that means i chatter/summary screen 4 times? to get PID 52?

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