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# 5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by Slashmolder, Dec 1, 2010.

1. ### Musica

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Your Timer0 is waaaaaaaaaaaay off the range for White 2 Parameters. You are probably using White 1. See figure below and recheck.

As you can see, you have a Timer0 of C91, which is, again, out the range for White 2 Timer0 range of 10E0-1130. To add to what PoJ has said, even if you get the right nature, ability, gender, or even shiny-ness, as long as you do not get the correct IV's, you probably have missed your seed. Other factors why you do not get the IV's correctly is the IV frame, which will never advance unless you walk 128 steps with x number of pokemon in your party. x is equal to the number of IV frame advancements made when you walk 128 steps.

tl;dr

W2 Timer0 range = 10E0-1130

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Wait, so you can actually rng fill all the hollows and then carefully select what appears in what?
3. ### PoJ

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Yes, you can do that. But you don't fill them and then choose what appears separately, you do them at the same time.
4. ### SprocketP(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n

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As a follow-up to my own question, Lati@s is considered a Stationary Pokemon, near as I can tell anyway.

Seed 5593448499CA4CC4
ID 12752
SID 7748
Stationary Pokemon, PID Frame 222 will result in Shiny.
Wild Pokemon, PID Frame 220 will result in Shiny.

Going off of Chatot pitches, I stopped at frame 222, and got a shiny. If I stopped at PID frame 220, I might have gotten lucky via PID advancement by an NPC, but stopping at frame 222 I eliminate random advancement.
5. ### cbeng

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Just wondering, when going for Lati@s, how does the step you take to get it to battle you affect the frames?
6. ### voodoo pimpApply directly to the forehead

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Yes, as long as you do them in the proper order.
It doesn't, unless the NPCs move during that time.
7. ### SprocketP(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n

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Isn't there a chance of a PID advancement when stepping, even when not on grass?
8. ### AgonistThe day the world went awayModerator

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not in this particular case. The only PID advancements are from the Youngster in the Doubles Grass.
9. ### kandayuu

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Hi,I'm currently struck in BW2 rng method. I will list down what did i do and hope anyone can help me identify the steps i've done wrong maybe.
Right now i'm now wanted to do wild pokemon rng.

For calibration
1. I brought along a sweet scenter (Foongus)
2. I found a spot in victory road with no npc and items lying around. Save the game there.
3. I restart my DSlite and set to 10/12/2012 05:30:25 and restart my ds
4. I press A when the second reach 25 sec and let it load (without pressing anything) till the game freak screen up
5. Once the screen is up, i press A all the way till the game load my saved game.
6. I sweet scent immediately and catch a pokemon
7. Copy down the nature, habits, stats and calculate the iv

I Repeated step 3-7 for around 20 times to confirm the results -> Here lies one problem, different pokemon i encounter give me different iv values but the same pokemon give me same iv (E.g. 10XPiloswine i encounter all have naughty nature, hp 111, atk 78 and 12X Delibird have rash nature, hp 106, atk 57for example)

Qn 1: Is the calibration on the right track?
Qn 2: For BW2 after press A at the right second i notice that after the game freak logo appear the time taken to press A also affect the pokemon that you will encounter. E.g. When you see Zekrom shadow count 1 sec then enter game you will encounter delibird if 2 second count you will encounter piloswine. I'm getting so confuse, is it i have to wait for all the animation load finish instead of only stopping at game freak screen?

For actual RNG
1. I just take this 3 result and generate a list of seeder and tried them all
2. For example: i gotten Frame 1 01/13/2012 05:30:19 i enter the game at 01/13/2012 05:30:18 <------ is this correct?
3. I sweet scent and caught a pokemon but that pokemon doesnt match the iv stat i wanted to generate.

Sorry for the trouble and thanks in advance if anyone could solved this problem i'm facing =)
10. ### SprocketP(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n

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The Gift Eevee in Castelia City can never be female. If the PIDRNG lands on a frame that generates a female Eevee, it will skip to the next frame.

@kandayuu, Timer0 is probably fluctuating a lot. It's a known problem in BW2, and something you need to be aware of. Also which DS are you using, a DS Lite, DSi, or 3DS?
11. ### kandayuu

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I'm using DSLite, So how do i stablize the fluctuation? How to kept the encounter consistent in BW2?
12. ### SprocketP(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n

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You don't. Sorry.
13. ### kandayuu

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Ok thanks alot! So right now its impossible to rng in BW2 right?
14. ### voodoo pimpApply directly to the forehead

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No, you just have to try more. Figure out which Timer0 value is most common, and use that one.

Breeding in BW2 is impossible though, for unrelated reasons (there's a bug in the game's breeding code).

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16. ### Valkart

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Hi guys, for ID/SID abuse on BW2, can I do the same RNG process like BW? Thanks in advance
17. ### emboars

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yes its the same with more timer0s
18. ### Cefiro

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Can the gift Eevee still be shiny? And the gift turtle/archeopteryx too?
And are there NPCs that make getting a shiny really difficult in any of these buildings?
19. ### emboars

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guys i did this on the other dsi too but it get 2 vcounts too :( AC and AD .....it never happened in B2 .only in W2

little trouble in choosing :/ which one should i use

Actual Seconds VCount Timer0 GxStat VFrame Seed
21 AD 1675 6 8 61C19B180C9DA859
17 AC 1673 6 8 4B95B468BEBA6FC7
22 AC 1673 6 8 2951B9FBFB8D8CBB
21 AC 166D 6 8 40B1BBFAD1FB754C
22 AC 166F 6 8 5DEFD11AC046E1A1
21 AC 1671 6 8 5F21D95C9DB70B96
22 AD 1675 6 8 9776D7DAA077B316
22 AD 167B 6 8 F354C7800A695278
21 AD 1674 6 8 03EC17BABC97C74C
21 AC 1674 6 8 822CD0A69AAD9008
22 AC 166B 6 8 293FC5832885EE79
22 AC 1671 6 8 33D475637F03370C
22 AD 1678 6 8 204A3AC27975810B
21 AC 166E 6 8 9CE7E76E553094A2
21 AC 166B 6 8 9F61B693ABFA106B
22 AC 1672 6 8 03D2FA8228628603
21 AC 166C 6 8 7AE32B6E0BB6ADB8
22 AD 1677 6 8 514FB465774CFB91
22 AC 166A 6 8 997E44BA62598178
22 AC 166C 6 8 4BFE7DA25FBC2FE3
21 AC 1672 6 8 9B36D37B49238060
22 AC 166D 6 8 1CC18E0058356F72
22 AC 166A 6 8 26B6EA18E0E38144
22 AC 166B 6 8 470A246463057A61
22 AC 1673 6 8 AE578C07D1B79A08
22 AC 1672 6 8 2003A367B03E26DB
22 AC 166B 6 8 68D178C557EA986E
22 AC 166F 6 8 3D1AE65132FFF820
22 AC 166E 6 8 2DDDDF4C09E26E71
20. ### AgonistThe day the world went awayModerator

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All three can be shiny, and there aren't any WNPCs in the Museum at least (BW2 only, in BW there are).
21. ### BlueEew

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Is there any guides for BW2 calibration? I cannot seem to RNG at all in Black 2.
22. ### Xanderpitz

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Ok, so I'm trying to RNG the Azelf on Route 23 and I'm a little bit confused as to what RNGReporter is telling me that I had hit. I know its a stationary pokemon and that there are NPCs (which usually advances the PIDRNG frame by 4 for me if I have to use Chatot [which i did]). Here's my parameters for the search:

http://i.imgur.com/eGFHx.png
http://i.imgur.com/MyqWY.png

I ended up getting a non-shiny terrible Azelf instead, so I plugged in my time into the Adjacent Seed Tool to compare results. The problem is, it says I hit frame 3 of a nearby Timer0, when I advanced the PIDRNG frame 67 times with Chatot alone. Here's my find:

http://i.imgur.com/3TfDv.png

Any idea what that means?
23. ### un?lucky

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Just a few questions in regards to rng'ing the mystery gift genesect that I'm hoping someone could help me with.

Is it possible to find IV frames under 50 for event pokemon? Looking through time finder the lowest frame I can find (over many years) is just over 55 for my target spread, is this normal or should I keep looking?

Also, do we know if entering through the pokecenter door affects the IVRNG in anyway? There's a wandering NPC inside there that makes using the PIRNG next to impossible when I need to advance the IV frames over 50.

Oh and one last thing, is there an IV checker equivalent to BW1? Is he in the same spot?
24. ### kiddu

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You're using a false assumption: unlike most other things, IVs and PIDs for wondercards are both determined by the same RNG. All you need to do for your Genesect is advance the PIDRNG, which means starting frames of 50+ and all you need are Chatot calls.

If you mean the guy in the Battle Subway, then yes, he's still there.
25. ### CerezaTastes Like Candy

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Wondercards work only with the pid frames; you don't have to advance the iv frames at all

Saying that; you don't have to exit or enter the center at all

There is one but you need to beat the e4 first