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5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by Slashmolder, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. Hozu

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    No. Other language titles use a different value in determining the seed. Thus, using a language that does not match will yield wrong results.
  2. voodoo pimp

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    You're probably using an outdated version from before the English games were released. You can find the latest version in the first post of this thread.
  3. ShadowMonkey

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    hmmm... i have 9.96 already.

    also, another problem. for the seed to time, the only option for 5th gen is c-gear seeds.

    the 9.96 version i have says smogonwifi alpha 10 next to it, does that mean something?
  4. Agonist

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    9.96 supports English BW2.
  5. Hozu

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    Alpha 10 is an old version. The current version is 9.96.5, which is on the main page. Note that any version past alpha 16 is incompatible with Windows XP.
  6. voodoo pimp

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    Additionally, Seed to Time is only useful for BW1 C-Gear seeds. Everything else should only need Time Finder and the main window.
  7. ShadowMonkey

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    Thanks, i got the newer version now.

    for the profile setup, i can't continue without filling in Vcount, Gxstat, ect., where do i find this information?
  8. Hozu

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    Oh right, the profiles are stored differently in later versions of 9.96 compared to earlier versions. If you can't remember/find them you will have to calibrate again to figure them out.
  9. voodoo pimp

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    You'll need to calibrate (on something other than a Wonder Card) to get those values. Do it at least a dozen times so you get a good idea of your most common Timer0(s).
  10. Reshiram89

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    I'm still trying to RNG a Cobalion.

    I read somewhere that you only have to do the chatot thing if you're just going for good IVs, is that right? And that the walking 128 steps thing is for shinyness. Cos I'm trying to hit the following seed:

    Frame 124
    Starting frame 49
    =75 chatots

    I have two chatots and I'm just flipping between them, and I do this 75 times. When I'm finished I initiate the battle, catch Cobalion, but when I check the IVs there not even close to what I wanted! I also read that engaging in a pokemon battle can advance the frame. Does this include capturing pokemon?

    I just need to know if I need to listen to exactly 75 chatots befor going up against Cobalion? Or am I missing another important step that's screwing things up for me?
  11. Onicon

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    No, the IV thing depends on your timing with pressing buttens (not difficult) and the Timer0 (luck).
    Advancing the PID frame, the Chatot thing, is required for nature, gender, ability, encounter slot, and shininess; in your case, only nature and shininess.

    What you have given us is not the seed. The seed is that long string of numbers and characters. 124 is your Target frame, 49 is your starting/initial frame, and 75 is the difference/number of Chatot flips.

    When the IVs (and consecutively your nature and shininess) are not correct, you have hit the wrong seed. As said, it depends on your timing and your Timer0. When you play BW, it is most likely an issue of timing, because the Timer0 does not fluctuate that much. When you play BW2, it might be one of them, or both.

    If you think your timing is off, just calibrate and look at the actual second. It indicates how long it took for the DS to boot the game and you have to adapt to the slight delay.
    If you think your Timer0 is off (means: bad luck), try again until you get the correct result.

    There is actually a third option we haven't mentioned yet because we have expected you to do it correctly. You need a custom Chatot chatter to advance the PID frame. The default one does nothing.
  12. Reshiram89

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    Yep, I've got my chatots saying 'hello' to eachother so I've deffinately got that right.

    I think I just have really poor timing...

    I just wondered if I needed to take the battle itself into account, in addition to the chatot flips, but apparently not.
  13. Onicon

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    No you need not, but may you tell us if it is BW or BW2? Becasue we have forgot a fourth possibility: Randomly moving NPCs (BW2).
  14. Reshiram89

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    I'm trying to do this in black.
  15. Onicon

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    Ok, try this: When you calibrate, remember when you have pressed the button to enter the game. There will be the "actual seconds" displayed. Now, you have to enter the game at the actual second.

    For example, when you pressed the button on the 30th second and your actual second is 31 (normal for DS lite), you have to remember to press the button one second earlier from now on. Like pressing on 29 when you want to enter at 30.
  16. Reshiram89

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    Yeah I've been doing that.

    Something I've noticed is that I keep getting the same wrong pokemon. Like the Cobalion I keep getting has the following results:

    Naive (synch nature)
    Quick to flee
    HP: 2-3
    Atk: 9-10
    Def: 28-29
    SpA: 13-15
    SpD: 11-15
    Spe: 29

    I'm aiming for:

    Naive
    HP: 31
    Atk:30
    Def: 30
    SpA: 31
    SpD: 31
    Spe: 31
    Hidden Power: Ice

    How do I check to see how far off I was from hitting the right seed?
  17. ThOnly1Lft

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    well you may have hit the right date/time but not the correct timer0? I'm not sure if this is as much of an issue in BW as BW2...
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    Trying to RNG for starters in HGSS right off the start. In my situation, what is the best method to verify which seed I hit (no access to Elm/Juggler call, roamers, or chatot)?
  19. Hozu

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    There is no way to verify your seed.
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    So I guess my best shot is to keep trying and re-adjust my time/delay from the result I get?
  21. jp134711

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    This question really belongs in the previous gen RNG help thread: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52180

    To answer your question, there is no way to verify. You should search for seeds on the following frames:
    Chikorita - 1
    Cyndaquil - 5
    Totodile - 9
    Know also that there is no way of advancing the frames at this point. If you have access to rare candies early on, you should use them in addition to an IV calculator.

    Edit: Ninja'd by Hozu....
  22. ThOnly1Lft

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    Is it a big deal if i'm calibrating with lower level sweet scented pokemon since i'm restarting my game?
  23. Professor Birch

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    Do the moving NPC's work different in White 2 compared to regular White. I can never hit the seed for my Kyurem or Regirock and I know its not because I am doing it wrong because I was very successful in White.
  24. jp134711

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    No. Level 10 is usually good enough for calibration. You should probably upload pokes to Pokecheck to get accurate IVs for the lower level pokes.
  25. Onicon

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    You will get more possible results. But as long you know your VCount, your GxStat and your VFrame for that DS/cartridge combo (they are constant) you can rougly guess which one is correct.

    It does not. As for Kyurem, there seems to be something in the cave that moves the PID frame, so you better determine the frame via Chatots' cries. This one was pretty much the most time consuming RNG process we had ever have.

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