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5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by Slashmolder, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. Reaga

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    The question was if I should clone the one I do have. If it'll show up as a hack (or if anything bred from it will) I'll RNG another ditto. Otherwise I'll just clone and transfer.
  2. voodoo pimp

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    Frame 6 will put your last IV on frame 11, past the range of the adjacent finder. Calibrate on frame 3 (i.e. no advances).
  3. Gothic Togekiss

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    Did what you (capture the stationary legendary as soon as I turn on the C-gear) and so far it's works. Do I continue to do this until I starting hitting delays that within 2-10 hits from my target delay before advancing the frames or until I can hit my target frame on a regular basics?
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    Take the delay you got and put it in the "Delay Hit" box and hit Update. Keep doing this until you get a consistent calibration, then you can start advancing the frame.
  5. mntwinsfan

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    Like voodoo said, you can update the calibration using the "delay hit" window. Once you're getting within about 10 (or ideally, within 5 or less) you can start advancing the frames. At that point, it's just a matter of time until you get it right.

    And as long as you're close to your desired delay, it's still possible to check how far off you were.

    Example: Suppose you want seed 01B80061, Frame 10.
    In the main window, generate Method 5 results for 01B80061, then 01B80060, then 01B80062, and so on. (In other words, check your seed first, then check the adjacent seeds if necessary.) Assuming you did your advances correctly, you should be able to find the IVs you got on Frame 10 on one of those seeds.
  6. COKTAL

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    I've got a few quick questions about rnging with c gear:
    1) Is there a way to check what seed you've hit besides catching a pokemon and checking it's IVs?
    2) As of right now is it pretty much pointless to attempt to abuse for shinies in the wild with c gear if the frame for it is over a few hundred? I want to get a shiny victini, but from all the results I've checked has shown the closest is one around 800.
    3) Is anyone working on a program designed to search for IV spreads yet? I know time finder works, but it takes forever even on relatively small delays.
    4) Is there any way to check to see what frame you're currently on (ex: calling elm in HG/SS)?
  7. Sir_Lu

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    1) To my knowledge no.
    2) Yes. And I don't think you can even catch shinies with C-Gear. Also, you can't get a shiny Victini because of a shiny check.
    3-4) I dont think so
  8. Exploits

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    1) You'd need an AR.
    2) You can't abuse for shinies with the C-Gear. Only IVs. And Victini has a shiny lock so it can't be shiny.
    4) You'd need an AR.
  9. COKTAL

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    Thanks for the quick reply Exploits. What's the code for frame check called? Or if there's a post I missed somewhere on the first page can you give me the link to it?
  10. voodoo pimp

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    1) AR
    2) Can't use C-Gear for shinies, and Victini can't be shiny regardless.
    3) Depends on how you define "forever" and "relatively small." I can search from 1500-20000 in about 20 minutes. If there is another program, I haven't seen anything about it.
    4) AR again. You can just keep track of it manually pretty easily anyway.

    Edit: Accelgors everywhere
  11. JRT

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    You know how some of the routes can get really foggy? Will that mess anything up?
  12. voodoo pimp

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    I don't know if fog does anything, but weather in general runs off of the PIDRNG, so it shouldn't affect IVs at all.
  13. jones115

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    Hey do I have to use sweet scent catch a poke,cause the weather does'nt allow sweet scent to work
  14. Newts

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    No you can turn on the spot and encounter that way. It may affect which frame you need though, not entirely sure without testing it.

    Try not to take too many steps because the 128 step counter doesnt reset when you reset the game and as far as you know, you could have saved on 127 steps. Turning on the spot won't increase that counter
  15. jones115

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    ok thanks man,just needed to confirm that turning in the spot does'nt mess me up :)
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    Pretty sure it gives you the same frame advancements. Normally it causes the problem that your PID, nature, etc. will always be the same. Since the sandstorm makes that advance like crazy, there shouldn't be a problem.
  17. Abra Kapocus

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    I'm trying to get a decent mixed spread for Hidden Power Ice 70 through what seems like endless tweaking with the seed generator, but the best I've found so far is 9B8B177A at frame 46, which has a yield of 31/30/22/31/31/31. Can't seem to get better than 22 in defense.

    Wondering if anyone has found a better seed? It's for Cobalion.
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    Need your MAC address to do that.
  19. Newts

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    I believe that a seed that works for one person won't work for the next, your MAC address will be different to mine.

    I have 30 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 31 / 31 on seed A65DA28A and frame 3.
  20. Abra Kapocus

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    Oh, shit, that's right.

    791396

    Then again, you'll probably have just the same tedious, rotten luck as me. I wonder if playing it on a different DS will yield a different MAC address?
  21. zerohorus

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    You are correct on that try borrowing a ds from your friends to look for different MACs
  22. Sprocket

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    Yeah, having more than one DS is an advantage this time around, even if it does mess with your Black City/White Forest.

    My DSi XL has a frame 11 31/31/31/31/31/31 spread, while my DS Lite has a frame 3 31/31/31/28/31/31 spread and a 31/30/30/31/31/31 (HP Ice 70) frame 3 spread. I also find it easier to consistently hit my seed on my DS Lite than on my DSi XL.

    Makes me wonder if the 3DS is going to be as difficult as the DSi to RNG on.
  23. Ortega

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    My RNG nightmare is over!
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    29/31/28/31/30/31

    So, I have some tips for anyone going after roamers.

    RNG at the house on route 7.
    If you search this thread you'll find many giving this advice. While the roamer can be KO'ed and respawned by fighting the E4, you'll have a VERY hard time RNGing the IVs due to battles progressing the frame.

    RNG your roamer last.
    I decided to go after Thundurus before even getting my Zekrom done, which was probably a mistake. The roamer is probably the most difficult RNG venture in B/W, and you'll be TRAPPED in the Route 7 house until you're done. Even if you can hit your seed, its nature is very hard to control, so you'll likely need to hit your seed many times before you happen upon your goal. So don't start it unless you have a lot of time to devote to the task and don't mind that you'll be stuck in the route 7 house during that time.

    If you value your sanity you'll want to use your Master Ball. This means that, until you can acquire the other Master Ball in the game, you won't have it available to quickly catch other legendaries you're trying to RNG for calibration purposes.

    If you put off RNGing the roamer for last there might be a new release of RNG Reporter that might have features that could help make things easier. Who knows, good things come to those who wait, right? I'd recommend putting off the roamer as long as possible.

    Occasionally recalibrate, confirm frame.
    Generally, your calibration value will apply to anything you try to RNG in B/W. But, in the case of the roamer, you may want to keep closer tabs on how close you're landing to your goal. I found that I needed to adjust from -40 to -36 for more consistency.

    You may want to track which Nature you get as part of your calibration process. Though you can't control it directly, it being based on the non-C-Gear RNG process, there probably will be a pattern anyway. If there's anything we've learned about the RNG, it's that it's not really random. If you find yourself often getting the same undesired Natures then you might want to choose another seed, or as Mattj suggested, save before leaving the house to advance the frame on the RNG that controls PID/nature/shininess.

    While doing this you should check to make sure your roamer's IV spread is landing on the right frame, as well. I found that RNG reporter was reporting my roamer spreads 1 frame earlier than their actual position. So, instead of looking for a spread on frame 4, I chose one on frame 3; when I caught my roamer, the desired IV spread was on frame 4, not 3. This wasn't true when I caught Cobalion: RNG Reporter gave me the correct frame. So check for any inconsistencies. This is probably something that varies from DS to DS.

    Frame 4 is the default frame your roamer will be generated on after leaving the house if you don't advance the frame. If you compromise for a less-than-perfect IV spread you can save yourself a lot of stress by picking a spread that doesn't require you to advance frames.

    The roamer appears on specific routes.
    Depending on what day/time your seed is on, the roamer will appear on one or two routes more often. First, find a route by watching the ticker on one of the route checkpoints. Then ride your bike on and off the route until a thunder storm starts. For the first seed I was going for, it appeared very often on route 6. When I changed seeds, it didn't appear there AT ALL. Route 5 turned out to be the new spot.


    So that does it for my tips. I won't be trying to RNG my wife's Tornadus any time soon thanks to what a pain Thundurus proved to be. >:( Some day, though. Can't have Raijin without Fujin.
  24. jones115

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    hold on what difference does it make to RNG on a dsi than on a regular DS
  25. Sprocket

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    Heh yeah, Thundurus/Tornadus are by far the worst Pokemon to RNG I've ever seen. They make Raikou, Entei, and Lati@s at the Elite Four look easy by comparison.

    And that's definitely some solid advice.
    On a regular DS/DS Lite, you can set your system time by hitting the A button. On a DSi and DSi XL, you're forced to use the touch screen to set your time. Using the touch screen, in my opinion, leaves you more open for error and timing inconsistencies.

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