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Completed 6v6 Switch Singles [Flamestrike vs. deadfox081] The Long Haul

Discussion in 'ASB' started by LouisCyphre, Jan 22, 2012.

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  1. Flamestrike

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    "Great job Stonestrike! Now then, this Monferno might be able to dish out some solid damage, but it can't take hits well at all! Start with a Dig, then follow up with an Drill Run! Finish off with another Dig! If he uses Dig action 2, then use Earthquake if you aren't tormented and Counter if you are!"

    Summary:
    Dig -> Drill Run -> Dig
    If he uses Dig A2 and you aren't tormented use Earthquake
    If he uses Dig A2 and you are tormented use Counter
  2. deadfox081

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    "Its going to hurt girl, but I think the best strategy here is just to take the hits and respond with some strong ones of our own.. If my calculations are correct then it should leave us strong enough to take the mammoth down too."

    Close Combat > Close Combat > Low Sweep
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    Flamestrike XOAXXX (Needle Spikes* (1l))
    [​IMG] HP: 50 / 110 En: 63% Speed: 40 Ranks: 5/5/1/3 Status: N/A

    deadfox081 XXXXXA (Stealth Rock)
    [​IMG]HP: 100 / 100 En: 100% Speed: 81 Ranks: 4/1/3/2 Status: N/A

    Pre-Round
    deadfox081 sent in Burst!
    Pointed Stones dug into Burst (12 Damage)!


    Turn 1
    Burst used Close Combat!
    The Gem in the centre of the arena strengthened the attack!
    (Crit Roll [<=625]: 7439/10000; No Crit)
    Its Super Effective!
    Stonestrike took ((12+3-1.5+2)*1.5)=23 Damage! Burst's Defence & Sp. Defence dropped 1 Stage!
    Burst used 7 Energy!

    Stonestrike burrowed underground!

    Stonestrike used Dig!
    The Gem in the centre of the arena strengthened the attack!
    (Crit Roll [<=625]: 5270/10000; No Crit)
    Its Super Effective!
    Burst took ((8+3+6+2)*1.5+1.75)=30 Damage!
    Stonestrike used 9 Energy!

    Turn 2
    Burst used Close Combat!
    The Gem in the centre of the arena strengthened the attack!
    (Crit Roll [<=625]: 9611/10000; No Crit)
    Its Super Effective!
    Stonestrike took ((12+3-1.5+2)*1.5)=23 Damage! Burst's Defence & Sp. Defence dropped 1 Stage!
    Burst used 11 Energy!

    Stonestrike used Drill Run!
    The Gem in the centre of the arena strengthened the attack!
    (Hit Roll [<=9500]: 4176/10000; Hit)
    (Crit Roll [<=1250]: 2531/10000; No Crit)
    Its Super Effective!
    Burst took ((8+3+6+2)*1.5+3.5)=32 Damage!
    Stonestrike used 5 Energy!

    Turn 3
    Burst used Low Sweep!
    The Gem in the centre of the arena strengthened the attack!
    (Crit Roll [<=625]: 148/10000; Crit)
    A Critical Hit! Its Super Effective!
    Stonestrike took ((6+3+3-1.5+2)*1.5)=19 Damage! Stonestrike's Speed dropped 1 Stage!
    Burst used 3 Energy!

    Stonestrike Fainted! Burst gained 1 KO Counter!


    Post-Round
    (Arena Roll {Type} [1-17]: 8/17; Ghost)
    The Arena released a Ghost Aura!


    Flamestrike XOAXXX (Needle Spikes* (1l))
    [​IMG] HP: KO / 110 En: 49% Speed: 40 Ranks: 5/5/1/3 Status: -1 Speed

    deadfox081 XXXXXA (Stealth Rock)
    [​IMG]HP: 26 / 100 En: 79% Speed: 81 Ranks: 4/1/3/2 Status: -2 Defence, -2 Sp. Defence

    *: Needle Spikes has the same properties of Regular Spikes, that is, it will deal fixed damage depending on the number of layers, but it will also deal +3 damage for each time a Pokemon is weak to Bug, or -3 damage for each time a Pokemon resists Bug. Any further use of Spikes will result in Needle Spikes while Needle Spikes is on the field.

    TURN ORDER

    Flamestrike sends in Glacierstrike the Piloswine (Automatic)
    deadfox081 issues actions
    Flamestrike issues actions
    Its_A_Random refs
  4. deadfox081

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    "Well, I was feeling mighty confident here until I saw Endure in the Swine's movepool. Never mind little my little monkey, I think I have a way around even that.."

    Mach Punch + Close Combat > Cooldown (Low Sweep) > Low Sweep
    IF
    Endure is ordered action 1 THEN change actions to Slack Off > Fake Out > Slack Off
    IF Protect is ordered action 1 AND Endure is not ordered action two THEN use Slack Off action 1 and push actions back HOWEVER IF he does order Protect > Endure THEN proceed with actions as per the first substitution

    I've seen tiered substitutions considerably worse than this reffed as legal so while I'm probably pushing the boundaries I don't think I'm breaking them.
  5. Flamestrike

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    This is one sub.
    This is another sub.

    <&Alchemator> if it's a one-sub match then only
    <&Alchemator> "IF Protect is ordered action 1 AND Endure is not ordered action two THEN use Slack Off action 1 and push actions back"
    <&Alchemator> is valid

    It's two subs so I'm guessing that the first sub (the plain Endure sub) and the one mentioned by Alchemator are valid.
    [​IMG]
    "Let's do this! Protect then Endure, then finish him off with an Earthquake!"

    Summary:
    Protect -> Endure -> Earthquake

    Regardless of whether or not this works out, GG deadfox. Was a great match!
  6. Its_A_Random

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    Oh god, "Athenodoros-Style" subs have made it into this match...That is, you can theoretically make one sub & create a lot of conditionals on it, yet it would still count as one sub, since those conditionals were still based off the one move; Because of a loophole in the Attack Substitution rules, which renders such subs as legal.
    What deadfox081 is saying is, in a clearer way...
    IF Protect A1...

    • IF it is followed A2 by Endure, THEN change actions to Slack Off > Fake Out > Slack Off
    • Otherwise, THEN Slack Off action 1 and push actions back
    Sorry Flamestrike. But since you made your actions based on the abve sub being 2 separate subs, I'll be nice & let you reorder.
  7. Flamestrike

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    I'm kinda curious as to where this "loophole" is.
    I'm not changing my actions either way; if deadfox's subs work then my only hope is like 3 misses in a row thanks to Mud-Slap and I don't really feel like extending this match any longer. But I'd really like to settle this substitution stuff once and for all, so ref it however you feel is right and I'll bring this up in the Feedback thread so we can get an answer from Deck/SDS on it for the future.
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    Basically, It doesn't stop one from tagging extra conditionals, which makes this possible in the first place. Blame Athenodoros for starting it all, I'm only being consistent with other ref's handling of such subs, which, iirc, they have considered to be 1 sub. I cannot impress everyone.

    Flamestrike XAXXXX (Needle Spikes* (1l))
    [​IMG] HP: 33 / 110 En: 68% Speed: 50 Ranks: 4/3/1/3 Status: N/A

    deadfox081 XXXXXA (Stealth Rock)
    [​IMG] HP: 26 / 100 En: 79% Speed: 81 Ranks: 4/1/3/2 Status: -2 Defence, -2 Sp. Defence

    Pre-RoundFlamestrike sent in Glacierstrike!
    The Needle Spikes pricked Glacierstrike (12 Damage)!


    Turn 1
    Glacierstrike used Protect!
    Glacierstrike protected himself!
    Glacirestrike used (7)=7 Energy!

    Burst used Slack Off!
    Burst recovered 20 HP!
    Burst used ((100/10)+2)=12 Energy!

    Turn 2
    Glacierstrike used Endure!
    Glacierstrike braced himself!
    Glacierstrike used 15 Energy!

    Burst used Fake Out!
    (Crit Roll [<=625]: 3112/10000; No Crit)
    Glacierstrike took (4+1.5)=6 Damage!
    Burst used 4 Energy!

    Turn 3
    Burst used Slack Off!
    Burst recovered 20 HP!
    Burst used ((100/10)+2)=12 Energy!

    Glacierstrike used Earthquake!
    (Crit Roll [<=625]: 332/10000; Crit)
    A Critical Hit! Its Super Effective!
    Burst took ((10+3+3+4.5)*1.5+3.5)=34 Damage!
    Glacierstrike used 6 Energy!

    Post-Round
    Burst's Defence & Sp. Defence decayed 1 Stage!

    (Arena Roll {Type} [1-17]: 3/17; Dragon)
    The Arena released a Dragon Aura!


    Flamestrike XAXXXX (Needle Spikes* (1l))
    [​IMG] HP: 15 / 110 En: 40% Speed: 50 Ranks: 4/3/1/3 Status: Cannot Endure (1r)

    deadfox081 XXXXXA (Stealth Rock)
    [​IMG] HP: 32 / 100 En: 51% Speed: 81 Ranks: 4/1/3/2 Status: -1 Defence, -1 Sp. Defence, 0 Recoveries Remaining

    *: Needle Spikes has the same properties of Regular Spikes, that is, it will deal fixed damage depending on the number of layers, but it will also deal +3 damage for each time a Pokemon is weak to Bug, or -3 damage for each time a Pokemon resists Bug. Any further use of Spikes will result in Needle Spikes while Needle Spikes is on the field.

    TURN ORDER

    Flamestrike issues actions
    deadfox081 issues actions
    Its_A_Random refs
  9. Flamestrike

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    Earthquake x3

    GG deadfox
  10. deadfox081

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    Real sorry for the match to end with a situation like this Flamestrike, it's been a pleasure and I really think this match (with IARs reffing) should stand as evidence that not only can 6v6 matches work but they are really fun. Lots of swings and roundabouts here and it was a Great Game indeed.

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    "Okay Burst, go for the throat."

    Close Combat x3
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    Flamestrike XAXXXX (Needle Spikes* (1l))
    [​IMG] HP: 15 / 110 En: 40% Speed: 50 Ranks: 4/3/1/3 Status: Cannot Endure (1r)

    deadfox081 XXXXXA (Stealth Rock)
    [​IMG] HP: 32 / 100 En: 51% Speed: 81 Ranks: 4/1/3/2 Status: -1 Defence, -1 Sp. Defence, 0 Recoveries Remaining

    Turn 1
    Burst used Close Combat!
    (Crit Roll [<=625]: 7539/10000; No Crit)
    Its Super Effective!
    Glacierstrike took ((12+3+1.5)*1.5)=25 Damage! Burst's Defence & Sp. Defence dropped 1 Stage!
    Burst used 7 Energy!

    Glacierstrike Fainted! Burst gained 1 KO Counter!

    deadfox081 wins 1-0 (Because of ref discretion...)!


    Flamestrike XXXXXX (Needle Spikes* (1l))
    [​IMG] HP: KO / 110 En: 40% Speed: 50 Ranks: 4/3/1/3 Status: Cannot Endure (1r)

    deadfox081 XXXXXA (Stealth Rock)
    [​IMG] HP: 32 / 100 En: 44% Speed: 81 Ranks: 4/1/3/2 Status: -2 Defence, -2 Sp. Defence, 0 Recoveries Remaining

    *: Needle Spikes has the same properties of Regular Spikes, that is, it will deal fixed damage depending on the number of layers, but it will also deal +3 damage for each time a Pokemon is weak to Bug, or -3 damage for each time a Pokemon resists Bug. Any further use of Spikes will result in Needle Spikes while Needle Spikes is on the field.

    TURN ORDER

    N/A

    GG guys, apart from that "Atheno-Sub" was caused a bit of flack (Shut up, I know I'm a user of them)...I'll put up prizes in a follow-up post.
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    PRIZES

    FLAMESTRIKE
    +4 CC
    +1 Loss on W/L/T

    Steelstrike: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC
    Stonestrike: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC, 2 KOC
    Glacierstrike: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC, 1 KOC
    Axestrike: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC
    Leafstrike: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 KOC
    Sludgestrike: 3 MC, 1 KOC

    DEADFOX081
    +4 CC
    +1 Win on W/L/T

    Processor: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC, 1 KOC
    Sucker: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC
    Curl: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC, 1 KOC
    Burst: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC, 2 KOC
    Drogon: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 KOC
    Sparks: 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC, 1 KOC

    REF PAYOUT

    LouisCyphre: 4 UC (Reffed 2 KO's)
    Its_A_Random: 10 UC (Reffed 9 KO's)

    That's all. Can the next moderator who sees this please change the prefix to Completed? Thank you.
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