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A Guide to EV Training with Hordes

Discussion in 'Orange Islands' started by Stellar, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. pumpkaboom

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    Power items always give +4 to whatever stat they are per Pokémon. So if you had a Power Anklet and you defeated 5 Zubats; each Zubat gives +1 Speed EV, which is then boosted to +5 because of the Anklet. The total EV yield would be +25 Speed EVs (which could be doubled by having Pokérus).
  2. SakataGintoki

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    When does route 19 not have rain? There's rain there every time i go there for ev training
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  3. Miilanda

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    I am not sure if anyone asked this before, but does a power item boost EV only the holding Pokémon or every Pokémon in party?
  4. SapphSabre777

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    A question on using the Power items? Does the Pokemon I am using to battle the hordes need to hold the Power item, or the Pokemon I'm training via Exp. Share?
  5. Velits

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    It only boosts the EVs for the Pokemon holding it.
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  6. pumpkaboom

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    The Exp. share distributes all EVs to every Pokémon in the party regardless of what items they hold, so give the Power item to the 'mon you're battling with. All of the EVs it earns will also be earned by the other party members.
  7. farranpoison

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    Wrong. The power item only increases EVs on the mon holding it. All other mons with Exp Share will gain whatever amount of EVs the defeated mons give.

    Take, for example, a horde of Wingull. Each gives 1 Speed EV, for a total of 5 Speed EVs if you defeat them all. Now, you have, say. a Greninja battling, with a Talonflame in your party. The EXP Share is on. Greninja is holding the Power Anklet (+4 Speed EVs). After Greninja Surfs to kill all the Wingull, your Greninja will now gain 1 + 4 = 5 EVs times 5 for a total of 25 Speed EVs. Your Talonflame, however, since it was not holding any Power item, will gain only 5 Speed EVs.
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  8. pumpkaboom

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    I apologize for the misinformation; I was under the impression the mechanics worked the way I discussed. Thank you for the correction ^_^
  9. Bomberman

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    Thank you very much for this topic, I used it many times but forgot to thank you properly. This Horde EV training's saving me a lot of time!
  10. Shirum

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    Hey, I just wanna put it out there that Tropius can learn Sweet Scent AND Fly AND gets two nice spread options in Razor Leaf and Earthquake. Slap a wide lens on him and you won't even miss with Razor Leaf.
  11. SnoopysWorld

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    Does Macho Brace spread EV's to the entire party?
  12. Stellar

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    Held items only affect the Pokémon holding them.
  13. SnoopysWorld

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    Okay, well I just got done fainting off a horde of Trevenant, which give off 2 EV's each in attack. I'm EV training my Froakie right now, who started off with 7 EV's and has Pokerus. How many EV's did he gain off of me killing the horde? I'm assuming he got 20 since he's not holding a power item.
  14. goomy pls

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    Do Static and Magnet Pull work on hordes? It would make Mareep and Durant a lot better.
  15. Stale FIsh

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    Sounds a lot quicker than super training. This is pretty kool. Thank you for this
  16. Cheatingtaco

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    Once I start my competitive team, this'll be so handy.
  17. Darkmalice

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    You should mention that the best spots for getting Attack EVs can have rain in the overworld, which would prevent you from using Honey or Sweet Scent. In that case, the best EV training sport would probably be the forest for Trevenant (2 Atk, uncommon sadly).
  18. xtracross

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    Great guide, so far I have ev trained half of my team for wifi.
  19. Prof. Almeida

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    Dear Stellar, can I translate this guide to Portuguese in my blog so Brazilian Pokémon trainers without English knowledge can also use this method? All credits will be given, for sure.
  20. GaviGator

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    Horde EV training makes EV training easier. You can level up and shiny hunt while EV training. I love it! I do recommend the Power Items though.
  21. DestinyGallade

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    I have a question. I was ev training my power bracer equipped pokerus hopip and ko'ed a horde of weepinbell, I should have got 100 evs right? I actually only got 60. What happened?
  22. Prof. Almeida

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    It's only 6. 2 ev+4 = 6. Times 5 = 30. Times 2 = 60.
  23. Mieel

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    This method really turned Super Training obsolete, unless you need items from Secret Super Training
  24. chet daugherty

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    So if the Pokemon that is battling is holding the power item, does that give all the other pokes in the team the same bonus? or do I have to switch around the power item as the EVs go up?
  25. Mulan15262

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    No, Power Items only affect the pokemon holding it.

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