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ADV OU/BL Tier Changes Voting

Discussion in 'Blind Voting' started by ENZ0, Jan 14, 2012.

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  1. ENZ0

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    A couple of weeks ago, I sent PMs to the most active, important, and solid ADV OU players requesting them to nominate lists of OU down to BL and BL up to OU pokemon to ultimately update the current tiers. I found this important because ADV OU is currently represented on our official ladder and in our official tournaments like The Smogon Tour and Smogon Premier League. This will also help out new and current ADV OU players in their understanding of the current metagame. Now it is time to vote on these nominations to finish updating the current tiers.

    Qualified Voters (open)

    gene
    Aeroblacktyl
    makiri
    Jackal
    Giga Punch
    Golden Sun
    JabbaTheGriffin
    Floppy
    Kevin Garrett
    Mekkah
    DracoMalfoy
    Rewer
    Steven Snype
    Pocket
    Earthworm
    Heist
    ala
    M Dragon
    Bluewind
    Bloo
    Halloween
    kael
    Ojama
    reyscarface
    ENZ0
    Butterfreeak
    MarceloDK
    idiotfrommars
    Krack
    LizardMan
    Nachos
    Royal Flush
    shrapn3l
    Zephyr
    Iconic
    TheFourthChaser
    Thatsjustpeachy
    San Pellegrino
    fatty
    ToF
    Playa
    Nails
    SkyNet

    I had to resort to using our common voting system instead of potential lists because it was nearly impossible to create a few amount of lists. This is due to the amount of variation presented in the responses, meaning that I would end up with an unappealing cluster of lists, which I found unnecessary. As a result, you may vote each suspect either OU or BL and at the end I will calculate the percentages, which will determine the tiering of each suspect.

    You may vote OU, BL, or Abstain for any of these Pokemon. Remember, if you are unsure about a Suspect's tiering, do not vote to Abstain, vote to leave said suspect in its current tier whether its OU or BL. Abstain is only an option for those who do not want to vote for a Suspect, for whatever reason. That is different from being uncertain where a Suspect should be tiered.

    As you will notice, I put up for voting all the pokemon that were nominated with substantial evidence. I did this to avoid the need of further ADV tiering updates in the future and to minimize bias from my part at all costs. The pokemon that were nominated as suspects are the following:

    OU down to BL

    Blaziken
    Dragonite
    Donphan
    Dusclops
    Jolteon
    Ludicolo
    Medicham
    Sceptile
    Slaking
    Umbreon
    Weezing

    BL up to OU

    Breloom
    Charizard
    Cloyster
    Forretress
    Houndoom
    Jynx
    Porygon2
    Tauros
    Venusaur

    I'll be sending out another PM to all the voters to make sure everybody views this thread and votes ASAP.

    Remember, PR mods, smods, and admins must soft delete their posts in order to make them "blind."

    LETS GET IT

    EDIT: If anyone else wants to vote, please shoot me a PM saying why you should be allowed to vote.

    EDIT 2: Remember if you are not sure if a pokemon should be moved down or up just vote to leave it in its current tier, and also remember when to abstain and when not to abstain as explained above.

    EDIT 3: I edited in how you need to respond to the sample ballot. As you can notice I just did it in an arbitrary manner, so don't at any cost use the sample ballot as a guide for your voting. Only use the sample ballot as a simple example.

    EDIT 4: If you voted a different way before I edited in the example, don't worry I'll try to figure it out or ask you personally afterwards.
  2. Heist

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: OU
    Medicham: BL
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: OU
    Charizard: OU
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
  3. ENZ0

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: OU
    Slaking: OU
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
  4. idiotfrommars

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: OU
    Donphan: OU
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: OU
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: OU

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: OU
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: OU
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
  5. Kevin Garrett

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: OU
    Slaking: OU
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: OU
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
  6. Steven Snype

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    Blaziken - BL
    Dragonite -BL
    Donphan - BL
    Dusclops - OU
    Jolteon - OU
    Ludicolo - OU
    Medicham - OU
    Sceptile - OU
    Slaking - BL
    Umbreon - BL
    Weezing - BL
    Breloom - BL
    Charizard -BL
    Cloyster - OU
    Forretress - OU
    Houndoom - OU
    Jynx - BL
    Porygon2 - BL
    Tauros - BL
    Venusaur - OU
  7. Rewer

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken
    Dragonite
    Ludicolo
    Sceptile
    Umbreon
    Weezing

    BL up to OU

    Breloom
    Charizard
    Cloyster
    Forretress
    Houndoom
    Porygon2
  8. Pocket

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken - OU
    Dragonite - BL
    Donphan - BL
    Dusclops - OU
    Jolteon - OU
    Ludicolo - BL
    Medicham - BL
    Sceptile- OU
    Slaking - OU
    Umbreon - BL
    Weezing - BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom - OU
    Charizard - OU
    Cloyster - OU
    Forretress - OU
    Houndoom - OU
    Jynx - BL
    Porygon2 - BL
    Tauros - OU
    Venusaur - BL
  9. M Dragon

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: OU
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: OU

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: OU
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: OU
    Venusaur: OU
  10. Nachos

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: BL
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: OU
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: BL
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: OU
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
  11. gene

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: BL
    Jolteon: BL
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: BL
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: OU
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: OU
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: OU
    Venusaur: BL
  12. makiri

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: BL
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: BL
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: BL
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: OU
    Weezing: OU

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: OU
    Venusaur: BL
  13. LizardMan

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    Thank you for your efforts ENZ0. ADV is a great tier.

    OU down to BL
    Dragonite
    Donphan
    Umbreon
    Weezing

    BL up to OU
    Cloyster
    Forretress
    Houndoom
    Porygon2
  14. TheFourthChaser

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    Enz0 lettin me vote

    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: BL
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: BL
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: OU
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: Abstain
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
  15. Floppy

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: BL
    Dragonite: OU
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: Abstain
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: OU
    Slaking: OU
    Umbreon: OU
    Weezing: OU

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: OU
    Charizard: OU
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: OU
    Jynx: Abstain
    Porygon2: Abstain
    Tauros: Abstain
    Venusaur: Abstain
  16. Thatsjustpeachy

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: BL
    Ludicolo: OU
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: OU
    Slaking: OU
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: OU
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: OU
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
  17. Jackal

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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: BL
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: OU
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: BL
    Sceptile: OU
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: OU
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: OU
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: OU
    Venusaur: BL
  18. Aeroblacktyl

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    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: BL
    Jolteon:
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: BL
    Sceptile: OU
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: OU
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: OU
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: BL
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: OU
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: OU
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: OU
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: OU
    Jynx: OU
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: OU
    Venusaur: BL
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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: OU
    Umbreon: OU
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: OU
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: BL
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: OU
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: OU
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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: BL
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: BL
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: BL
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: OU
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: OU
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: OU
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: OU
    Donphan: OU
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: OU
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: OU

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: OU
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: OU
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken OU
    Dragonite BL
    Donphan BL
    Dusclops OU
    Jolteon OU
    Ludicolo BL
    Medicham BL
    Sceptile BL
    Slaking OU
    Umbreon BL
    Weezing BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom BL
    Charizard BL
    Cloyster OU
    Forretress OU
    Houndoom BL
    Jynx BL
    Porygon2 BL
    Tauros BL
    Venusaur BL
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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: BL
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: BL
    Dusclops: OU
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: BL
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: BL
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: BL
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: BL
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    OU down to BL

    Blaziken: OU
    Dragonite: BL
    Donphan: OU
    Dusclops: BL
    Jolteon: OU
    Ludicolo: BL
    Medicham: BL
    Sceptile: BL
    Slaking: BL
    Umbreon: BL
    Weezing: BL

    BL up to OU

    Breloom: BL
    Charizard: BL
    Cloyster: OU
    Forretress: OU
    Houndoom: BL
    Jynx: BL
    Porygon2: OU
    Tauros: BL
    Venusaur: OU
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