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Pokémon Aerodactyl

Discussion in 'OverUsed' started by azureleaf17, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. Ckarasu

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    A 135 Atk stat is nothing to scoff at, and that 33%(recent posts in research thread say so, at least) boost certainly isn't insubstantial.
    Proof

    As for the moves we know that it gets that make contact:
    Crunch (106-ish BP after boost)
    Iron Head (106-ish BP after boost)
    Aerial Ace (80 BP after boost)
    The Fangs (86-ish BP after boost)
    Dragon Claw (106-ish BP after Boost)
    Aqua Tail (119-ish BP after boost)(once pokebank comes out)

    It has good power and coverage with these moves as well as its 135 base Attack. Let's not forget about its fantastic speed and respectable bulk that allows it to take a priority attack or two. I'm not sure what's so underwhelming or useless about that.
  2. SuperMeep

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    So, with the tough claws boost, what would make a good MegaDactyl move set?
    It gets roost, could that be an option?
    and what Fang would give you the best coverage? What would it be used against. I can think of 3 premier megas: Alakazam, Gengar, and Garchomp. Maybe Ice Fang and Crunch would do the trick. You could also change ice fang out for dragon claw as it does more goodra. Or maybe ThunderFang against TalonFlame. What would be it's Counters, and what would IT counter?
    It counters
    The mega crew: Alakazam, Gengar, and Garchomp
    Goodra?
    Talonflame?


    Countered by?
    Barbaracle
    skarmory

    I will continue to add on with editing with people's suggestions.
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  3. Ckarasu

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    252+ Atk Choice Band Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Aerodactyl: 130-154 (43.18 - 51.16%) -- 4.69% chance to 2HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Aerodactyl: 272-324 (90.36 - 107.64%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO

    Dear Lord, he takes a Mach Punch from Conkeldurr like a freaking Champ. And it takes a Choice Band for Azumarill to stand a chance of OHKOing it. This thing is a beast.
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  4. Mozilla Fennekin

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    I've been switching around Megas, but I really love Mega Aerodactyl.

    Aerodactyl (M) @ Aerodactylite
    Ability: Rock Head
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Defog
    - Elemental Fang or Crunch
    - Rock Slide/Stone Edge
    - Earthquake

    Kinda what I've been using, not really supposed to decimate teams, but it does what it needs to. Resisting SR and ignoring everything else makes him one of the best Defog users, which is how I started using him. I also prefer Rock Slide over Stone Miss because of the 30% flinch chance.
  5. Groudon ex

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    Aerodactyl is actually weak to Stealth Rock, as Rock does not resist itself.
  6. Mozilla Fennekin

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    Yeah, I noticed that too when I was playing. Lol, that's my bad.
  7. MegaSnorlax

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    Is this thing able to get stealth rocks or not in Gen VI without pokebank? I wanted to add a mega aero to my team with his amazing speed and taunt, SR and 1HKO Gengar action.
  8. SuperMeep

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    I don't even use Taunt. It can just kill too many things with it's moveset

    Ice Fang (Dragonite and Garchomp)
    Crunch (Alakazam and Gengar)
    Aerial Ace (die breloom, and most other fighting types)
    Rock Slide (actually, I might use taunt instead. I can't really thing of anything besides Talon Flame.)

    Note, I included Alakazam because It's faster than it on the 1st turn, as the normal speed is used. How many Alakazams run a speed positive nature?
  9. Twilightfairy

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    I've been running Jolly Megadactyl.

    Rock Slide- Flinch Chance
    Crunch- Def lower
    Iron Head- Flinch Chance
    Ice Fang- Flinch/freeze chance

    It's gotten me some surprise come from behind victories, and can actually survive the stray Ice Beam from neutral pokemon. It does decently against fairy, dragons, ghosts, psychic, rock, fire, flying. Under sand storm it's proven it's slight special bulk, i'm using the term bulk loosely.
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2013
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  10. Banryu

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    Has anyone testing Megadactyl found Hone Claws to be worth using at all? Granted, he probably doesn't want to waste a turn setting up when something can potentially kill him in the process, but patching Stone Edge's accuracy has to be at least somewhat worthwhile, I'm thinking. I ran a HC Aero in Gen 5 UU and he worked reasonably well.
  11. RaXes

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    236 EV's with an adamant nature are enough to outspeed it.
  12. Colonel M

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    You people stupidly underestimate Mega-Aerodactyl.

    <p>Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite<br />
    Ability: Tough Claws<br />
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe <br />
    Adamant Nature / Jolly<br />
    - Stone Edge / Rock Slide<br />
    - Earthquake<br />
    - Fire Fang / Ice Fang<br />
    - Taunt / Roost</p>

    <li>252+ Atk Mega Aerodactyl (Fire Fang) vs. 224 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 122-144 (37.3 - 44.03%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock.</li>
    <li>252+ Atk Mega Aerodactyl (Move 3) vs. 224 HP / 32 Def Skarmory: 156-184 (47.7 - 56.26%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock</li>
    <li>252+ Atk Mega Aerodactyl (Move 3) vs. 252 HP / 48+ Def Ferrothorn: 292-348 (82.95 - 98.86%) -- 31.25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock.</li>

    The amount of power on this Pokemon is awesome. Taunt is really awesome and I can't wait for Tough Claws Aqua Tail for Hippowdon / Gliscor (sure lose out on Aegislash... but c'est la vie).
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  13. BlackiceQ

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    Sorry im new here and dont know how to post on this so thought i would reply lol ... I am currently training a aerodactyl for online and wanted to point out that giving aerodactyl steel wing with base power at 70. plus tough claws will hit hard to fairy types especially bully types like slyveon ... Excuse my spelling, also for the people who are saying that hes a suicidal type set .. Well with his AMAZING speed, surely if he whirlwinds he can get out of those sticky situations... So what im trying to say is EX still proves to be a big threat with the right move pool... Food for thought.
  14. ColtCababa

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    So, I like the idea of a Hone Claws set. Always wanted to use a Hone Claws Aerodactyl in BW, and with it's newfound Mega Evolution, I believe it has at least a hint of potential:

    Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
    Unnerve
    252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Speed
    Adamant

    Hone Claws
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake/Fire Fang Aqua Tail
    Aerial Ace

    Unnerve is the suggested Ability, as Pressure won't be doing much if you plan on Aerodactyl staying in normal form for whatever reason, and can be a bane for Harvest Trevenant. Stone Edge is it's best STAB, with the low accuracy being compensated for after a boost, Aqua Tail hits Ground-types, as well as Steel-types neutrally, and Aerial Ace 2HKOs defensive Grass-types such as Tangrowth and Mega Venusaur.

    [EDIT]: Forgot that Aerodactyl had Aqua Tail.
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  15. AOPSUser

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    Iron Head>Steel Wing.

    Whirlwind has negative priority.

    Steel is a horrible typing offensively unless you are Steel-type.
  16. ShadowThreat

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    Has anyone considered iron head for the fairy types? I run it and its seems to be effective.
  17. ColtCababa

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    Steel has mediocre coverage other than for Fairies, and you can just hit them neutrally with Stone Edge. If you really want to decimate Fairies, then you could, but note that it isn't SE against Azumarill, M-Mawile, and Klefki.
  18. alexwolf

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    There is little reason to use Iron Head / Steel Wing. Klefki / Mega Mawile are covered by Earthquake / Fire Fang and are neutral to Steel, Togekiss is OHKOed by Stone Edge, Azumarill is hit harder by your Rock STAB as it is neutral to Steel, Mamoswine, Tyranitar, and Terrakion are hit harder by Aqua Tail, leaving only max HP / max Def+ Sylveon and Clefable as Pokemon that Iron head can 2HKO and the other moves of Aerodactyl can't. Overall, this is the best moveset for Mega Aerodactyl:

    EVs: 4 Def / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Nature: Adamant
    - Stone Edge / Rock Slide
    - Aqua Tail
    - Fire Fang / Ice Fang
    - Aerial Ace

    Max Speed to outrun base 130s, +1 Adamant Dragonite, and Speed tie with opposing Mega Aerodactyl, and Adamant because you need the extra power while the extra Speed is mostly irrelevant. Aqua Tail 2HKOes most Landorus-T, Hippowdon, Gliscor, Garchomp, and Tyranitar. Fire Fang covers Steel-types can can 2HKO SpD Skarmory but Ice Fang is nice to OHKO Pokemon such as Latias, Garchomp, and Landorus. Aerial Ace is needed to 2HKO physically defensive Mega Venusaur, Conkeldurr, and Tagnrowth, as well as OHKO Keldeo. Earthquake is not really needed as Steel and Rock-types are covered by either Aqua Tail or Fire Fang, but it can be used with Ice Fang if you really want it. Taunt can be used on the last slot to get past physical walls even if you don't have the necessary coverage moves, as Mega Aerodactyl resists or is immune to the attacking moves of many physical walls, such as Hippowdon, Gliscor, and Skarmory.
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  19. TheEpicBro

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    Is Aqua Tail really supposed to be there? The only threats there are Landorus, Gliscor, Hippowdon and.... yeah.

    EQ should at least be slashed there, as it hits Garchomp/T-tar harder than Aqua tail does, plus is a better coverage move in general.

    Just my 2chainz cents.
  20. alexwolf

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    Aqua Tail gets the Tough Claws boost, so it's stronger than Earthquake.
  21. TheEpicBro

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    Wow, I never knew that....

    Thanks, I guess you learn something new everyday!
  22. farranpoison

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    Ugggh, this thing is so trolly. Tough Claws and nothing to use it with, no good physical Flying STAB...

    Adamant with Taunt or Roost seems like an okay lead, and can annoy some walls and threaten later on. Adamant Mega Aerodactyl still outspeeds 130s right? Or not?
  23. ColtCababa

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    Sure does. Though I wouldn't be bright about using a Mega Evo for merely a lead.
  24. Vengeance417

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    I'm having an issue with 4MSS with Mega Aerodactyl. Here's what I'm running currently:

    Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
    Adamant Nature
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe (even at an adamant nature, he outspeeds Timid Mega Gengar when you invest in max speed EVs)
    Moves:
    Rock Slide (STAB move + flinch chance)
    Crunch (for Ghost/Psychics and possible defense drop)
    Ice Fang (for Dragon/Flying/Ground/Grass types and flinch or freeze chance)
    Iron Head (Fairy, Ice and Rock type Pokemon with flinch chance)

    ...but I miss having Earthquake to deal with Electric types, which seems to be Aerodactyl's biggest problem at the moment. I don't know which move to replace it with, since all of the moves he has right now can deal with so many threats, but he can be quickly revenge-killed by an electric type, and I'd like to deal with them personally.

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