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[AG] Arceus-Ghost [reassigned]

Discussion in 'Analyses Archive' started by lotiasite, May 19, 2017.

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  1. lotiasite

    lotiasite undedgy
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    all hail ghostceus


    • one of the best setup mons in the metagame, with its access to swords dance
    • good bulk and speed allow it to find many setup opportunities
    • the ghost typing is extremely useful, as the immunity to extreme speed and arceus-ghost's access to extreme speed itself make it hard to revenge kill. its typing also lets it function as a decent ekiller check
    • ghostium z's ability to turn arceus into its ghost-type forme gives it a one-time nuke in never-ending nightmare
    • the abundance of dark types and faster ghost types in the metagame such as yveltal, arceus-dark, mega gengar, and choice scarf lunala are able to deal with arceus-ghost, and its predictability makes it relatively easy to deal with
    • arceus-ghost has a hard time beating bulky pokemon such as zygarde-c after its z-crystal has been used, and the nature of z-crystals make it so arceus-ghost generally only has one chance to sweep
    • generally weak coverage moves if not boosted

    Swords Dance
    Arceus-Ghost @ Ghostium Z
    Ability: Multitype
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Shadow Force
    - Brick Break
    - Extreme Speed / Recover

    Set Comments


    • swords dance boosts arceus-ghost's attack by two stages, allowing it to hit extremely hard and ohko most foes with never ending nightmare
    • shadow force is stab and has a strong 120 base power, hitting most foes very hard after sd. however, it can be exploited by opponents who can switch out into a normal- or dark-type into shadow force to gain momentum. a ghostium z turns it into a 190 base power never ending nightmare that hits devastatingly hard after a swords dance, even to resisted threats.
    • brick break is coverage that is necessary to hit dark-types, which resist ghost-type moves, and normal-types, especially ekiller, which are immune to ghost-type moves. shadow force and brick break together are resisted by nothing, making it great two-move coverage
    • extreme speed can be used to revenge kill weakened foes before using swords dance and can be used to deal massive damage before arceus-ghost goes down. since arceus-ghost is immune to extreme speed itself, nothing can outprioritize arceus-ghost's own extreme speed.
    • on the other hand, recover is used for healing and can get arceus-ghost out of a tight spot considering how hard it is to revenge kill. it also lets it outlast many pokemon.
    Set Details
    • 252 attack and speed EVs maximize arceus-ghost's offensive potential. a jolly nature is used to allow arceus-ghost to speed tie with other max speed arceus formes and outspeed anything slower
    • ghostium z is used for a one-time nuke; it also change's arceus's type to ghost
    • multitype in conjunction with ghostium z turns arceus into a ghost-type.
    Usage Tips
    • arceus-ghost works best as a late-game sweeper after its checks, such as physically defensive yveltal and arceus-dark, have been removed
    • arceus-ghost can also be used as a decent check to ekiller arceus, so preserve arceus-ghost's HP if you know they have an ekiller
    • use never-ending nightmare to nuke a bulky pokemon such as support arceus at +2; also note that +2 neverending nightmare is able to OHKO offensive yveltal after rocks 100% of the time
    • arceus-ghost's good speed tier and access to extreme speed can also be used to revenge kill foes
    • use swords dance on a predicted switch (such as switching arceus-ghost in to revenge kill something) or against extreme killer arceus or a support arceus forme
    • be careful of status: paralysis cripples speed, burn cripples attack, and toxic hurts longevity and makes it harder to use shadow force
    Team Options
    • checks to mega gengar
    • checks to yveltal (esp physdef) and darkceus
    • stealth rock setters (pdon, support arc) lets ghostceus sweep better and nail the ohko on offensive yveltal with neverendingnightmare
    • pokemon that are able to switch into scarf lunala
    • pokemon like hooh and mray like arceus-ghost checking ekiller
    • niche, but clerics like aromatherapy xern can heal arceus-ghost of status
    • wallbreakers like cb mray and life orb yveltal can weaken the opposing team for arceus-ghost to clean up late-game

    Strategy Comments

    Other Options

    • calm mind can be used with spooky plate, judgment and other coverage moves moreso as a lure to surprise typical sd ghostceus checks like
    • z-cm
    • support
    • eq
    • spooky plate

    Checks and Counters
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2017
  2. Kris

    Kris sry im on the toilet hope the ice cream dont melt bitch
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  3. lotiasite

    lotiasite undedgy
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    Oh sorry, had assignments and forgot about this; I'll get this done soon
  4. lotiasite

    lotiasite undedgy
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    Dec 29, 2015
    nevermind, dropping this; i don't think i have the time to finish this sorry
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