Sheer Force Gengar defeats Suicune and Chansey (with Taunt) too, but Sheer Force is indeed a good ability for Thundurus. I am pretty sure that Thundurus can not avoid the OHKO from a banded Brave Bird (Honchkrow, Braviary, Starapor) though, since it barely survives one from Talonflame.
Thundurus does not get OHKO'ed from any of those birds at max attack. The damage calc isn't working right now... but a max attack banded brave bird from raptor only does about 75% to Thundurus, which then he can retailate for the KO.
Fair enough. Potential KO's after stealth rocks though, so I would not rely on it lol.
Delta Stream Phys. Def Zapdos with HP Ice deals with this, I think. (And yes, I once ran that specifically to deal with Dragon Dance/Coil Zygarde.)
I doubt delta stream is required. Intimidate or poison heal probably does fine if you don't let him set up.
priority ragequits ftw
This could actually be considered; Chatot is basically a complete luck-based pokemon. Sure there's some skill involved, but that's pretty much just spamming chatter, knowing when to encore/set up, and that's really it.
I used to run this Aegislash...
The thing is, toxic stalling is a lot less relevant in AAA. And if you want to break birdspam, regen doublade has more bulk, and some offensive presence.
Thats why I stopped using it, it is fun but pointless
>Wanting to ban DICKS
Hey, why did you choose air lock for Star? Delta stream does its duty, and more for a flyer.Ayy Dynamo
Ayy Dynamo (Aerodactyl) (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Hone Claws
Ayy Dynamo (Moltres) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Desolate Land
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Air Slash
- Ancient Power
Ayy Dynamo (Zapdos) @ Mystic Water
Ability: Primordial Sea
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Thunder
- Hidden Power [Water]
- Volt Switch
- Roost
Ayy Dynamo (Articuno) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Ice Beam
- Ice Shard
- Freeze-Dry
- Blizzard
Ayy Dynamo (Staraptor) (M) @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- U-turn
- Close Combat
- Roost
Ayy Dynamo (Tornadus-Therian) (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Delta Stream
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Hurricane
- Tailwind
- Knock Off
- Heat Wave
I wanted the whole team to have weather like abilities, and Tornadus is a better Delta Streamer
Ayy Dynamo Team>Chatot>Wanting to ban DICKS
If it's a Curse Snorlax with Poison Heal, my current plan (though I've not yet had to test it) is Prankster physically-defensive Ferrothorn. How? Let the foe sit there for a while, then hit 'em with Worry Seed and watch the Toxic damage drop them in one turn.Trying to bring the thread back into relevant discussion...
As those that have been playing recently will know, there has been a huge amount of usage of Curse snorlax. I guess people are finally catching on to how good it is lol. Anyway, I've been using a strange chesnaught set that can counter it, as I have found that sd gale wings skarmory actually does not, thanks to recoil from brave bird. I don't want to use unaware, as my team is based around gale wings skarmory, so used a strange chesnaught set designed to counter it.
Chesnaught @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Spiky Shield
- Drain Punch
- Bulk Up
Bulk up, while kind of pointless for anything else, gives Chesnaught the ability to setup alongside snorlax and then beat it at +6 with drain punches. It's pretty gimmicky, and the only reason I'm using it is because I can't use gourgiest without getting 6-0'd by Bisharp. Just thought I would share because I wanted to get actual discussion up again. (I'm now using unaware because I realized that it is better.)Also, how are people dealing with curse snorlax? The only things I see are gourgiest, levitate ghosts that setup alongside it like doublade, and random things like this.
Here is a replay showing it off lol: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/almostanyability-186866894
That is genius. I think it would have to be unaware though, or else it can just boost up to +4 and 2hko you.
Yeah, I'd been using Unaware Ferro before. Prankster lets it Leech Seed stall fire-types though (which is funny), and the previous Unaware Ferrothorn set I'd been using didn't have Worry Seed, so I hadn't thought to try the combination. Nice suggestion though. I like it.
