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Amoonguss (Offensive) (QC 3/3) (GP 2/2)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by col49, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. col49

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    I've always been a fan of shrooms, even with the other options on the streets these days :]

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    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Sludge Bomb
    move 4: Hidden Power Ground / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Modest
    evs: 240 HP / 16 Def / 252 SpA

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Though commonly regarded as a defensive pivot, Amoonguss has a respectable base 85 Special Attack and access to Regenerator, which allow it to serve as a surprisingly versatile tank. While initially appearing outclassed by the very similar Tangrowth, which holds higher physical bulk, Special Attack, and Speed over it, Amoonguss holds certain traits that allow it to remain useful. Spore is the first of these traits and a natural choice for any Amoonguss set because being able to remove one prospective check or counter from the equation is a godsend for any Pokemon. In addition, its Poison typing, as well as superior special bulk, allows Amoonguss to better take on dangerous Grass- and Electric-types, such as Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom, while also being able to take on Bug-types, such as Accelgor, in a pinch. Giga Drain provides Amoonguss with a moderately powerful STAB attack with the added benefit of recovering lost HP, mitigating damage from Life Orb recoil and various attacks aimed at it. STAB Sludge Bomb provides respectable neutral coverage alongside Giga Drain, hitting Grass-, Dragon-, Flying-, Fire-, and Bug-types that might otherwise switch in easily. Moreover, Sludge Bomb is also capable of hitting common Sap Sipper users, such as Bouffalant and Sawsbuck, that try to switch into Spore or Giga Drain hard, severely hurting the former and achieving an OHKO the latter. Hidden Power Ground rounds off Amoonguss's coverage, allowing it to hit Steel- and Poison-types hard, preventing Pokemon such as Drapion and Klinklang from switching in for free after a Pokemon has been put to sleep. Hidden Power Fire, while leaving Amoonguss vulnerable to Drapion, allows it to hit Escavalier, Ferroseed, and Durant, all of which are only hit neutrally by Hidden Power Ground.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Amoonguss's EV spread seeks to maximize its offensive presence and ability to sponge hits, while minimizing damage taken from Life Orb. While a Life Orb is preferred for supplementing Amoonguss's moderate Special Attack and Regenerator generally keeps it healthy, Black Sludge can be used to enhance its survivability in a game. Stun Spore is a feasible option over Hidden Power, allowing Amoonguss to cripple switch-ins even after Spore has been used. Though access to Regenerator and generally solid overall bulk make Amoonguss a fairly self-sufficient Pokemon, certain teammates can be used to improve its overall performance. Hard-hitting Water-types such as Slowking and Kabutops are very capable of switching into Fire-type attacks aimed at Amoonguss, with Slowking forming a potent Regenerator core with it. Bulky Rock-types such as Rhydon are also very useful partners, being able to support Amoonguss with Stealth Rock, checking physically oriented Fire- and Flying-types such as Entei and Braviary, and luring in Water-, Grass-, and Fighting-type attacks for Amoonguss to switch into.</p>
  2. blarajan

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    QC 1 / 3
  3. col49

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    Thanks blarajan =)
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    I really wanna say no to this. Legitimately the only thing I see this as having over Tangrowth, which is significantly more powerful, has equal surprise value, and has Focus Blast for Sap Sipper mons is Amoonguss's ability to kind of counter Lilligant and Sceptile and the perfectly accurate sleep move rather than Sleep Powder. Tangrowth hits a lot harder than this thing and if you're taking an offensive role there are very very few teams where this would be more efficient than Tang. No QC approval or reject on this for now, but you'll need to do a bit of explaining as to why you would ever really use this over Tangrowth before I'm ready to consider giving this a stamp.

    edit: ok I'm convinced. be sure to really stress the few advantages it has over Growth though. QC 2/3
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    Spore is 100% accurate. It counters Lilligant, Sceptile, and Tangrowth. STAB Sludge Bomb to hit Fire-type / Grass-type (such as opposing Tangrowth, Sceptile, and Lilligant!) / Bug-type Pokemon. Its Special bulk lets it tank a hit if necessary, such as from Accelgor. It doesn't get entirely shat on by Durant. That sort of thing. Different typing, extra STAB, and special bulk differentiate it. You provided the reasons. The niche is there, and it's worth a set even with Tangrowth.
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    Wow, thanks again blarajan lol. Will do Widsong, thanks :)
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    QC approved 3/3

    yeah this guy seems pretty cool, not hard to switch in at all and packs quite a punch!
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    Awesome, thanks Molk! I'll get this written up soon =)
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    Okie dokes, finished this up 'cuz short. GP would be nice :]
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    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Sludge Bomb
    move 4: Hidden Power Ground / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Modest
    evs: 240 HP / 16 Def / 252 SpA

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Though commonly acknowledged as a defensive pivot, Amoonguss's has a respectable 85 Bbase Special Attack and access to Regenerator to serve as a surprisingly versatile tank. While initially appearing outclassed by the very similar Tangrowth, who holds higher physical bulk, Special Attack, and Speed over the fungus, Amoonguss withholds certain traits that alsolow it to remain useful. Spore is the first of these traits, and a natural choice for any Amoonguss set, because being able to remove one its prospective checks or counters from the equation is godsend to any Pokemon. In addition, its Poison sub-typing, as well as superior special bulk, allows Amoonguss to better take on dangerous Grass- and Electric-types such as Sceptile, Liligant, and Rotom, while also being able to take on Bug-types such as Accelgor in a pinch. Giga Drain provides Amoonguss a moderately powerful STAB attack with the added benefit of recovering lost HP, mitigating damage from Life Orb recoil and various attacks aimed at it. STAB Sludge Bomb provides respectable neutral coverage alongside Giga Drain, hitting Grass-, Dragon-, Flying-, Fire-, and Bug-types that might otherwise switch in easily. Moreover, Sludge Bomb is also capable of hitting common Sap Sipper users, such as Bouffalant and Sawsbuck, who try to switch into Spore or Giga Drain hard, severely hurting the former and achieving an OHKO the latter. Hidden Power Ground rounds off coverage, allowing Amoonguss to hit Steel- and Poison-types hard, preventing Pokemon such as Drapion and Klinklang from switching in for free after a Pokemon has been put to sleep. Hidden Power Fire, while leaving Amoonguss vulnerable to Drapion, allows it to hit Escavalier, Ferroseed, and Durant, all of whom are only hit neutrally by Hidden Power Ground.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Amoonguss's EV spread seeks to maximize it's offensive presence and ability to sponge hits, while minimizing damage taken from Life Orb. While a Life Orb is preferred for supplementing Amoonguss's moderate Special Attack and Regenerator generally keeps it healthy, Black Sludge can be used to enhance its survivability in a game. Stun Spore is a feasible option over Hidden Power, allowing Amoonguss to cripple switch-ins even after Spore has been used. Though access to Regenerator and generally solid overall bulk make Amoonguss a fairly self-sufficient Pokemon, certain teammates can be used to improve its overall performance. Hard-hitting Water-types such as Slowking and Kabutops are very capable of switching into the Fire-type attacks aimed at Amoongus, with Slowking forming a potent Regenerator core with it. Bulky Rock-types such as Rhydon are also very useful partners, being able to support Amoongus with Stealth Rock, checking physically oriented Fire- and Flying-types such as Entei and Braviary, and luring in Water-, Grass-, and Fighting-type attacks for Amoongus to switch into.</p>


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    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Sludge Bomb
    move 4: Hidden Power Ground / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Modest
    evs: 240 HP / 16 Def / 252 SpA

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Though commonly acknowledged as a defensive pivot, Amoonguss's has a respectable 85 base Special Attack and access to Regenerator to serve as a surprisingly versatile tank. While initially appearing outclassed by the very similar Tangrowth, who holds higher physical bulk, Special Attack, and Speed over the fungus, Amoonguss withholds certain traits that allow it to remain useful. Spore is the first of these traits, and a natural choice for any Amoonguss set, because being able to remove one its prospective checks or counters from the equation is godsend to any Pokemon. In addition, its Poison sub-typing, as well as superior special bulk, allows Amoonguss to better take on dangerous Grass- and Electric-types such as Sceptile, Liligant, and Rotom, while also being able to take on Bug-types such as Accelgor in a pinch. Giga Drain provides Amoonguss a moderately powerful STAB attack with the added benefit of recovering lost HP, mitigating damage from Life Orb recoil and various attacks aimed at it. STAB Sludge Bomb provides respectable neutral coverage alongside Giga Drain, hitting Grass-, Dragon-, Flying-, Fire-, and Bug-types that might otherwise switch in easily. Moreover, Sludge Bomb is also capable of hitting common Sap Sipper users such as Bouffalant and Sawsbuck who try to switch into Spore or Giga Drain hard, severely hurting the former and achieving an OHKO the latter. Hidden Power Ground rounds off coverage, allowing Amoonguss to hit Steel- and Poison-types hard, preventing Pokemon such as Drapion and Klinklang from switching in for free after a Pokemon has been put to sleep. Hidden Power Fire, while leaving Amoonguss vulnerable to Drapion, allows it to hit Escavalier, Ferroseed, and Durant, all of whom are only hit neutrally by Hidden Power Ground.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Amoonguss's EV spread seeks to maximize its offensive presence and ability to sponge hits, while minimizing damage taken from Life Orb. While a Life Orb is preferred for supplementing Amoonguss's moderate Special Attack and Regenerator generally keeps it healthy, Black Sludge can be used to enhance its survivability in a game. Stun Spore is a feasible option over Hidden Power, allowing Amoonguss to cripple switch-ins even after Spore has been used. Though access to Regenerator and generally solid overall bulk make Amoonguss a fairly self-sufficient Pokemon, certain teammates can be used to improve its overall performance. Hard-hitting Water-types such as Slowking and Kabutops are very capable of switching into the Fire-type attacks aimed at Amoongus, with Slowking forming a potent Regenerator core with it. Bulky Rock-types such as Rhydon are also very useful partners, being able to support Amoongus with Stealth Rock, checking physically oriented Fire- and Flying-types such as Entei and Braviary, and luring in Water-, Grass-, and Fighting-type attacks for Amoongus to switch into.</p>


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  11. HuntSaboteur

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    I've reserved the Amoonguss analysis already, does this mean my reservation is overridden or that col49's set will be added to the analysis?
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    It will be added to the analysis once the other sets are written.
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    GP check. Good job on writing this.
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    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Sludge Bomb
    move 4: Hidden Power Ground / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Modest
    evs: 240 HP / 16 Def / 252 SpA

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Though commonly acknowledged viewed/regarded as a defensive pivot, Amoonguss's Amoonguss has a respectable 85 base 85 Special Attack and access to Regenerator, which allow it to serve as a surprisingly versatile tank. While initially appearing outclassed by the very similar Tangrowth, who which holds higher physical bulk, Special Attack, and Speed over the fungus it, Amoonguss withholds holds certain traits that allow it to remain useful. Spore is the first of these traits, (remove comma) and a natural choice for any Amoonguss set, (remove comma) because being able to remove one its prospective checks or counters check or counter from the equation is a godsend to for any Pokemon. In addition, its Poison sub-typing, as well as superior special bulk, allows Amoonguss to better take on dangerous Grass- and Electric-types such as Sceptile, Liligant Lilligant, and Rotom, while also being able to take on Bug-types such as Accelgor in a pinch. Giga Drain provides Amoonguss a moderately powerful STAB attack with the added benefit of recovering lost HP, mitigating damage from Life Orb recoil and various attacks aimed at it. STAB Sludge Bomb provides respectable neutral coverage alongside Giga Drain, hitting Grass-, Dragon-, Flying-, Fire-, and Bug-types that might otherwise switch in easily. Moreover, Sludge Bomb is also capable of hitting common Sap Sipper users (add comma) such as Bouffalant and Sawsbuck (add comma) who that try to switch into Spore or Giga Drain hard, severely hurting the former and achieving an OHKO the latter. Hidden Power Ground rounds off Amoonguss's coverage, allowing Amoonguss it to hit Steel- and Poison-types hard, preventing Pokemon such as Drapion and Klinklang from switching in for free after a Pokemon has been put to sleep. Hidden Power Fire, while leaving Amoonguss vulnerable to Drapion, allows it to hit Escavalier, Ferroseed, and Durant, all of whom which are only hit neutrally by Hidden Power Ground.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Amoonguss's EV spread seeks to maximize its offensive presence and ability to sponge hits, while minimizing damage taken from Life Orb. While a Life Orb is preferred for supplementing Amoonguss's moderate Special Attack and Regenerator generally keeps it healthy, Black Sludge can be used to enhance its survivability in a game. Stun Spore is a feasible option over Hidden Power, allowing Amoonguss to cripple switch-ins even after Spore has been used. Though access to Regenerator and generally solid overall bulk make Amoonguss a fairly self-sufficient Pokemon, certain teammates can be used to improve its overall performance. Hard-hitting Water-types such as Slowking and Kabutops are very capable of switching into the Fire-type attacks aimed at Amoongus Amoonguss, with Slowking forming a potent Regenerator core with it. Bulky Rock-types such as Rhydon are also very useful partners, being able to support Amoongus Amoonguss with Stealth Rock, checking physically oriented Fire- and Flying-types such as Entei and Braviary, and luring in Water-, Grass-, and Fighting-type attacks for Amoongus Amoonguss to switch into.</p>


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    I know how to spell their names, I mean it ;-; Lol, thanks melvni, this is ready to go on-site whenever someone finds the time :)
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