Anti-Grinding Measures

[Ooraloo]

Discussion

Issues have been raised concerning the tedious, grinding nature of training up Pokemon in ASB, especially for beginning players who are struggling to raise up their first Pokemon to competitive levels. Voting will be done in two stages. For the first stage, we will be voting on what direction to take with anti-grinding measures.

Q1) How should grinding be addressed?
a) Increase referee pay only
b) Increase battling rewards only
c) Increase both referee pay and battling rewards
d) Abolish counter system
e) Do nothing

Q2) Should Doubles and Triples have increased referee payout?
a) Yes
b) No

Someoneelse / smashlloyd20 / Maxim / Mowtom / Exclaimer / FMD

 

[Ooraloo]

Q1:
c) Increase both referee pay and battling rewards
a) Increase referee pay only
b) Increase battling rewards only
d) Abolish counter system

Q2:
a) Yes

 

[smashlloyd20]

Q1:
c) Increase both referee pay and battling rewards
a) Increase referee pay only
b) Increase battling rewards only
e) Do nothing

Q2:
a) Yes

 

[Someoneelse]

Q1:
c) Increase both referee pay and battling rewards
a) Increase referee pay only
b) Increase battling rewards only
e) Do nothing
d) Abolish counter system

Q2:
a) Yes

 

[Maxim]

Q1:
c) Increase both referee pay and battling rewards
a) Increase referee pay only
b) Increase battling rewards only
e) Do nothing

Q2:
a) Yes

 

[Ooraloo]

Easy majority on c) Increase both referee pay and battling rewards, and a) Yes.

Here's the second part of the vote, where we will be working out the specifics of our solution.

Q1) How much should referee pay be increased?
a) Set minimum of 4 UC per Pokemon per side
b) Set minimum of 5 UC per Pokemon per side
c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side
d) Back to the drawing board

Q2) How much should battling rewards be increased?
a) Increase MC rewards by 1
b) Double MC rewards
c) Back to the drawing board

Q3) How much UC more should Doubles and Triples battles award to the referee?
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples
b) Back to the drawing board

Someoneelse / smashlloyd20 / Maxim / Mowtom / Exclaimer / FMD

 

[smashlloyd20]

Q1) How much should referee pay be increased?
b) Set minimum of 5 UC per Pokemon per side
a) Set minimum of 4 UC per Pokemon per side
c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side
d) Back to the drawing board

Q2) How much should battling rewards be increased?
a) Increase MC rewards by 1
c) Back to the drawing board

Q3) How much UC more should Doubles and Triples battles award to the referee?
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples
b) Back to the drawing board

 

[Maxim]

Q1) How much should referee pay be increased?
b) Set minimum of 5 UC per Pokemon per side
c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side
d) Back to the drawing board

Q2) How much should battling rewards be increased?
b) Double MC rewards
c) Back to the drawing board

Q3) How much UC more should Doubles and Triples battles award to the referee?
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples
b) Back to the drawing board

 

[Ooraloo]

Q1:
c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side
b) Set minimum of 5 UC per Pokemon per side
d) Back to the drawing board

Q2:
b) Double MC rewards
a) Increase MC rewards by 1
c) Back to the drawing board

Q3:
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples
b) Back to the drawing board

 

[Someoneelse]

Q1) How much should referee pay be increased?
c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side
b) Set minimum of 5 UC per Pokemon per side
d) Back to the drawing board
a) Set minimum of 4 UC per Pokemon per side

Q2) How much should battling rewards be increased?
a) Increase MC rewards by 1
c) Back to the drawing board
b) Double MC rewards
Q3) How much UC more should Doubles and Triples battles award to the referee?
b) Back to the drawing board
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples

 

[Exclaimer]

Y'all whippersnappers are too fast

Q1) How should grinding be addressed?
c) Increase both referee pay and battling rewards

Q2) Should Doubles and Triples have increased referee payout?
a) Yes

Q1) How much should referee pay be increased?
a) Set minimum of 4 UC per Pokemon per side
b) Set minimum of 5 UC per Pokemon per side
c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side

Q2) How much should battling rewards be increased?
a) Increase MC rewards by 1

Q3) How much UC more should Doubles and Triples battles award to the referee?
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples

 

[Mowtom]

Q1) How much should referee pay be increased?
c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side
b) Set minimum of 5 UC per Pokemon per side
a) Set minimum of 4 UC per Pokemon per side
d) Back to the drawing board

Q2) How much should battling rewards be increased?
a) Increase MC rewards by 1

Majority on A

Q3) How much UC more should Doubles and Triples battles award to the referee?
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples

Majority on A even before I vote

 

[FMD]

Q1) How much should referee pay be increased?
a) Set minimum of 4 UC per Pokemon per side

Q3) How much UC more should Doubles and Triples battles award to the referee?
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples

 

[Ooraloo]

No matter what method you use as a tie breaker, c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side, wins.

Q1) How much should referee pay be increased?
c) Set minimum of 6 UC per Pokemon per side

Q2) How much should battling rewards be increased?
a) Increase MC rewards by 1

Q3) How much UC more should Doubles and Triples battles award to the referee?
a) x1.25 for Doubles, x1.5 for Triples

 

[Dogfish44]

Alright, since this vote included a 'baseline' without further expansion, a member of the council should make a thread discussing the exact numbers we use (Consider that whilst we currently have a baseline of 3, our 6v6 payout is not just 3x6).

Edit: I was informed that the baseline was to be accepted, and current values incremented (So if baseline was set at 4, we would go from 3/6/10/15/21/28 to 4/8/12/16/21/28, using whichever would be lower between the old payments and the baseline). As such, I will be implementing 6/12/18/24/30/36 later.