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Discussion in 'RMT Archive' started by LUST, Oct 29, 2011.
If you read the RMT, you would have seen that it is actually VO. VietOffense.
Leave me out of this. Also, this team is not the classic Heavy Offense, but it IS extremely hyper offensive. Why did you shitstorm this thread? I am very disappointed in you. This team is very good, and its credentials have shown it. A team is a team. I can use a team of Magnezone, and 5 sweepers which lose to Scizor and call it a form of hyper offense.
Anyhoo yeah. I actually use Xtra's version of this team out of personal preference. He has some slight changes like Double Dance Terrakion, CB Nite, Spec'd Kingdra etc.
I said the team was good, multiple times.
Now read that thread for your own good before posting again. In particular this post, and ALL of Stathakis's posts. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3931738&postcount=75
He even said HO is a learning tool, and said that classic HO has definitly lost most of its effectiveness in the past. There is a reason why I don't use classic HO in tournament matches in gen 4. It is very limiting.
*gives the RMT a luvdisc.*I should probably try giving it a full blown rate later. Its beaten me on the ladder a couple of times.
Jay, stop posting. Please, you're only making it worse.
Great team! I mean really good! Not much I can say about it.
nice team! no changes really needed
You're completely idiotic, i really don't suggest you post on smogon RMT's to give people a bad edge on Team Building. Sorry Mostwanted for his idiotic comment basically ruining the point of this post.
I've been playtesting this team, and this is the best team I've ever used. I'm currently at about 1200 rating no problem, coming from under 1000.
I'm not sure how updated your importable is (for playtesting), so I wanted to make sure that when you put timid nature (+def, -atk), you meant timid, and not bold?
#1 or not, you're doing something wrong if you use Dragonite while simultaneously having no spinner on your team to take care of Stealth Rocks.
And for you, I'd recommend Starmie to fill that role. That is the best 2 cents I can offer you.
He has Taunt/Magic Coat for Stealth Rock. He can also play at an aggressive pace to give them not much time to use SR.
You know how an attacking lead works in gen 4 right? It puts a lot of pressure on them early on. "Do I let my lead die to get Stealth Rock up? Or do I give up Stealth Rock to weaken or kill the attacking lead?" The team has qualities similar to that once Deoxys S is dead. All of his sweepers can hit the common users of SR very hard.
You also do know Dragonite is a great pokemon even without a spinner right? There is Leftovers, Roost, simply switching Dragonite in right before your opponent rocks. It isn't Volcarona.
Great team, see it on the ladder all the time and it is a bitch to face,
However sun teams are a bitch to face, the combo of espeon, dugtrio and venusaur in particular shuts down this team but most non weather teams tend to be weak to this style of team anway, I think i watched you test out a hydreigon and landorus yesterday on PO was that you? I think a change to a scarfed terrakion would patch up the sun weakness pretty well as it outruns the usual sun teams, but i dont think a specs rotom-w would make up for the power loss, not a lot of stuff can match the astounding power of CBterrakion.
Anyway, great team, archive material and i look forward to seeing your latest changes
Not sure whyy you bothered posting an RMT if it peaked #1. Heck, I can't pick holes in this, great team!