I expect to take a lot of heat for this thread, but I feel that this should be seriously considered, so here goes nothing. I am aware that the idea of banning Arceus has been thrown around several times on various IRC channels in the past and has always been shot down immediately. The fact that BW Ubers is included in the SPL 2 format, an official tournament, has motivated me to bring this controversial topic up once again, in a professional manner. Being an avid Gen 4 Ubers player, I've played an extensive amount of Ubers with and without Arceus ("Farceus" in Gen 4 and unlimited Arceus in Gen 5). Contrary to popular belief, Pre-Arceus Ubers was actually relatively balanced, as seen by the consistency of various players in Smogon Tour over the past 3 years. However, with the addition of Arceus, Ubers matches have become crapshoots, plain and simple. I and other Ubers players have found a metagame with Arceus to be unpleasant, to say the least. The metagame is much more dependent on team match-ups and which type of Arceus each player is using. Arceus has incredible stats and a myriad of moves at his disposal. The sheer unpredictability of Arceus is what makes it so deadly. It's impossible to check every Arceus type and nearly every type is competitively viable. While Extreme Killer is normally what people think of when they think of Arceus, it can also run some killer Calm Mind sets while holding any plate thanks to always having access to a 100 BP STAB move. Arceus can just as easily go on the defensive, utilizing great moves like SR, screens, Recover and Perish Song, just to name a few. Yes, I know, "We can't ban Arceus, Ubers is a ban list!". I've heard it before. I think now that we finally have unlimited Arceus at our disposal it's time to consider banning it. I'm not suggesting making some God Tier above Ubers just for Arceus, but rather, simply banning Arceus from standard Ubers play (ladder, SPL and tour if Ubers is still included). I've made my points and I think a lot of Ubers players can agree with them, so now I'd like to see what the rest of you think. Fire away.