(Archive) Small Subjective Changes Thread

www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/ho-oh

At first glance, this may seem identical to the Choice Band set, but this Ho-Oh plays more as a revenge killer and a fast sweeper. With Choice Scarf making up for Ho-Oh’s below average sweep, it can surprise many opponents to become an unexpected speedy threat

Sweep should be changed to speed.
 
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/tangrowth
First sentence of the first analysis:
This set shows you right off the bat why you would use Tangrowth and not Celebi: Sleep Powder, Knock Off and Power Whip.
"Knock Off" needs a comma after it.

EDIT:
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/porygon2 Defensive Duck
"It can switch into Heatran, Vaporeon, and Jolteon, with impunity, thanks to Trace."
Does the comma after Jolteon really need to be there?
This is done, too.
 

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http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/uber_battling

In Introduction to Ubers:

The Ubers metagame is almost a forgotten metagame, the main reason being that everyone plays the Overused metagame (OU), and the fact that some other people even think that Uber Pokémon take no skill to use. They are, however, quite wrong, as Uber matches are full of strategy. They pack more power and movepool than many OU Pokémon, making the Uber metagame quite unbalanced; this is how, when, and where strategy, prediction, and critical thinking shine the most.
The Ubers metagame is almost a forgotten metagame; the main reason being that everyone plays the Overused metagame (OU), and the fact that some other people even think that Uber Pokémon take no skill to use. They are, however, quite wrong, as Uber matches are full of strategy. Uber Pokémon pack more power and a greater movepool than many OU Pokémon, making the Uber metagame quite unbalanced; this is how, when, and where strategy, prediction, and critical thinking shine the most.

A few simple edits to make it easier to read.

Under Maximizing Moves:

Pokémon with an Electric-type attack often pair up with an Ice-type attack, and Pokémon with a Ghost-type attack do the same with Fighting-type attacks; the purpose of such pairings are to maximize a specific moveset's type coverage
Add a period to the end of the last sentence.

Under The Lead Pokemon:

Also, Choice Scarf Mewtwo can come back into play later a great revenge killer.
It should read: Also, Choice Scarf Mewtwo can come back into play later as a great revenge killer.

Leads such as Deoxys-S or a support Groudon can get Stealth Rock, and Spikes as well if one uses the former, up early, making it far easier to sweep,
It should say that they can "get Stealth Rock up"
 
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/infernape
Counters discussion

"Tentacruel is the best counter to the most common set, the mixed Nasty Plotter"
| Infernape | Move | Nasty Plot | 15.8 |
And if that means Nasty Plot Ape with Close Combat instead of Focus Blast, then Physically-Based Mixape is more used, judging by locations on the analysis.

EDIT:
Perhaps: "Tentacruel is the best counter to the second most common set*, the mixed Nasty Plotter"
*if it is the second most common, that is.
 
About Flash Fire: "Grants immunity to Fire-type moves and increases Fire-type move's power 50% when hit by a Fire-type move."

Should have move's changed to moves', as more than one fire type move gets boosted. If "move" must be singular, it needs an article, so a Fire-type move's would be correct as well.
nice catch. i fixed it even though you didn't link to it !_!
 
Under the [URL="http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/arceus]Extreme Killer[/URL] moveset: "With Arceus's bulkiness..."

Possessive nouns ending in "s" only require an apostrophe; not another "s".

Just a small mistake, but I thought I'd point it out ^_^

Edit: Sorry about that, MY mistake -.-
 
Under the Extreme Killer moveset: "With Arceus's bulkiness..."

Possessive nouns ending in "s" only require an apostrophe; not another "s".

Just a small mistake, but I thought I'd point it out ^_^
Grammar Standards said:
Always append 's to a noun when signifying a singular possessive (Latias's Soul Dew) or plural possessive that doesn't end in s (Lucario's Swords Dance), and simply a ' when signifying a plural possesive for a word that ends in s (All Latios' Draco Meteor).
That said, "Arceus's bulkiness" is correct because if you continue the sentence, it is referred to singularly. (With Arceus's bulkiness, it should have no problem finding a niche for one Swords Dance, and maybe even two or three.)
 
In Mewtwo's All Out Attacker moveset:

Ice Beam complement's Aura Sphere's coverage well, hitting the Flying-types who resist Aura Sphere super effectively[...]
Should be complements without an apostrophe. (And I would suggest "hitting super effectively the Flying-types that resist Aura Sphere", but that's for a different thread.)
 
Okay, this time I really found a mistake: Under the "The Great Wall" moveset:

"Outrage will do more damage than Dragon Claw,,..."

One comma too many.

Edit: I'm not sure if this is a mistake too, but you may want to take a look at it: "Dragon Claw enables Giratina to severely damage other Dragon-types, OHKO Deoxys-A, and deal a respectable amount of damage to Ho-Oh and Darkrai; whereas Dragon Pulse carries a dash more power against Groudon."

Isn't that semicolon supposed to be a comma?
 

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Regarding http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/shedinja.

On all three sets you use a negative defense nature (lonely/hasty) for the theoretical situation of a Porygon2's / Porygon-Z's download ability, so the Porygon will receive an attack boost instead of a special attack boost. However, this is not the case.

You would need at least a defense IV of 12 or lower (along with the negative defense nature) and the movement of the 4 Def EVs to 4 Special Defense EVs (special defense must be higher to change download boost). In order to actually put the defenses to any use I'd suggest natures, EVs, and IVs, be changed to the following for each set:

Swords Dance
Code:
Nature: Lonely
IVs: 12 Def
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Trick
Code:
Nature: Lonely
IVs: 12 Def
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Baton Pass
Code:
Nature: Hasty
IVs: 12 Def
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
This gives Shedinja 96 Def and 97 SpD which will work against the Porygons' download ability. For those who don't care for Download (such as in Ubers) and/or pass substitutes to Shedinja a simple Adamant or Jolly, 252 Atk / 4 Def or SpD / 252 Spe and regular max IVs would do of course :). That could be explained in the EV section.

Also, it isn't explained in the Baton Pass set why it is better for Shedinja to be Hasty over Lonely, although I'm not saying it shouldn't be. Shedinja hasn't been updated in a long time though, so uh yeah this probably isn't that much of a priority and would probably need a full update as well when the time comes ^^.
 
i noticed a problems with Totodile's EVs

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/totodile

all sets are incorrect it seems, and the spreads should be: 236 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe


it may seem superfluous, but i think it's necessary as the remaining EVs are often used to correct a nearly flawless pokemon.

totodile's attack maxes out with only 236 EVs.
additionally, the first set won't have max speed with only 232 Spe (and the next lowest speed point is achieved at 172)
 
This might have been posted, but I feel that most pokemon that dont have the extra 4 EV's in speed that have even defense and neutral natures should use 4 special defense EVs since this makes Download give an attack boost, and therefore a better option for those EVs.

EDIT: Someone changed all the pokemon with Even defenses like I suggested, thank you!
 
Also, all of the Shedinja sets use lonely or hasty and such, despite the fact that they don not use special attacks, therefore making adamant the better choice no matter what. Subs matter, while nothing that that +10% in special attacks matters, from what I can tell. So therefore, Adamant is better.

EDIT: Unless it is for download, which I could see, ignore this if that is the case. I would make sure to at least mention that and the sub situation, since both are pretty obscure.
 
I'm not sure if this is the place for this, but...
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/torterra

Torterra is a UU pokemon, but every set mentions how it fares in OU. If someone could change these to mention how Torterra does against other UU's that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Torterra is currently undergoing an analysis revamp, found here, which will be based on the UU metagame.

i noticed a problems with Totodile's EVs

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/totodile

all sets are incorrect it seems, and the spreads should be: 236 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe


it may seem superfluous, but i think it's necessary as the remaining EVs are often used to correct a nearly flawless pokemon.

totodile's attack maxes out with only 236 EVs.
additionally, the first set won't have max speed with only 232 Spe (and the next lowest speed point is achieved at 172)
This is true. I fixed the spreads.

Regarding http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/shedinja.

On all three sets you use a negative defense nature (lonely/hasty) for the theoretical situation of a Porygon2's / Porygon-Z's download ability, so the Porygon will receive an attack boost instead of a special attack boost. However, this is not the case.

You would need at least a defense IV of 12 or lower (along with the negative defense nature) and the movement of the 4 Def EVs to 4 Special Defense EVs (special defense must be higher to change download boost). In order to actually put the defenses to any use I'd suggest natures, EVs, and IVs, be changed to the following for each set:

Swords Dance
Code:
Nature: Lonely
IVs: 12 Def
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Trick
Code:
Nature: Lonely
IVs: 12 Def
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Baton Pass
Code:
Nature: Hasty
IVs: 12 Def
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
This gives Shedinja 96 Def and 97 SpD which will work against the Porygons' download ability. For those who don't care for Download (such as in Ubers) and/or pass substitutes to Shedinja a simple Adamant or Jolly, 252 Atk / 4 Def or SpD / 252 Spe and regular max IVs would do of course :). That could be explained in the EV section.

Also, it isn't explained in the Baton Pass set why it is better for Shedinja to be Hasty over Lonely, although I'm not saying it shouldn't be. Shedinja hasn't been updated in a long time though, so uh yeah this probably isn't that much of a priority and would probably need a full update as well when the time comes ^^.
Great catch. I added your suggestions.