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Discussion in 'Stark Mountain' started by Haunter, Jul 2, 2010.

  1. Tatrion

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    I have constantly seen people reference suspect tests where Groudon and/or Kyogre were used at level 1 in standard and still found to be broken with their abilities Drought and Drizzle. Can someone please show me where the suspect test actually happened, if it happened at all?
  2. BlueEew

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    Thanks. :)

    So is this right..?

    I was EV Training a Kingdra with 180 HP / 252 ATT / 76 SPE.

    I used 10 Protein, 10 HP UP, and 7 Carbos.

    Giving 100 ATT / 100 HP / 70 SPE.

    I then beat 3 Starleys with PokeRus = 6 SPE Points Totaling Speed @ 76.

    Then I beat 8 Bidoofs with PokeRus + HP Power Item = 80 Points Totaling 180 HP.

    Then I made the mistake of beating 1 Machop with the HP Power Item and PokeRus giving me the spread.

    188 HP / 102 ATT / 66 SPE.

    Then I battled another 15 Machops with PokeRus + Attack Power Item maxing Attack out.

    Giving me:

    188 HP / 246 ATT / and 76 SPE.

    Is this correct?

    If so all I need to do is use 1 Pomeg Berry to reduce HP EV's from 188 back to 100.

    Battle 3 Machops with Just PokeRus = 6 EV's.
    Battle 8 Bidoofs with PokeRus + HP Power Item = 80 EV's.

    What a headache >.>, Is this correct?
  3. Zacchaeus

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    Yes, you are correct, but I would do the Attack training first so you don't have to worry about going over on HP again
  4. BlueEew

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    Thanks for all the help, you've saved me breeding another Horsea. :)
  5. Abacus

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    I remember there was something like that in CAP when an auto-weather ability was being contemplated (for pyroak iirc). I don't know the details, but if it was done by CAP then it was a test done by a relatively small community. There has never been an equivalent of the suspect ladder for low-leveled kyogre and groudon... There might have been a tournament or too also, but that doesn't mean much.

    This is correct

    Limbo isn't really a tier, but a placeholder for when it's unclear which tier a suspect is in during a suspect test. I think it was used in stage 3, and a couple times for the uu suspect tests.

    Yes, the same Uber, OU, BL, UU, [BL2], NU tiering system will likely be used. It has been for every generation so far, the only difference might be a tier below nu added.
  6. Cipher Admin Lovrina

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    I have a Flawless Timid Mew, anybody have a viable moveset for it?
  7. Osostewie

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    i have always been a fan of baton passing but you could do Thunder, Solarbeam, Fireblast, Blizzard with a wide lens just for the lawlz or you could use the transform one thats somewhere in here.
  8. Cipher Admin Lovrina

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    With what over explosion?
  9. cosmicexplorer

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    Why not Explosion?
  10. Zacchaeus

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    You could use Choice Scarf with Transform, Hypnosis, Trick, and Light Screen/Reflect, or Transform, Hypnosis/Trick, Reflect, Light Screen

    It's Timid
  11. Cipher Admin Lovrina

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    Transform, Hypnosis, Light Screen or Reflect and Trick

    or

    Transform, Light Screen, Reflect, and Trick both seem viable.

    Right?
  12. Nozizaki

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    This an OU question, don't refer me to the Ubers thread.

    I am working on a set for a Garchomp I was planning to use in 5th Gen (OU), and was wondering if dropping 16 Speed EV's was viable, since I'd still outspeed Base 100's and nothing has a speed of 329-332. (It is SDYache Btw)
  13. supermarth64

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    Might as well go max Speed to tie opposing Garchomp (if it becomes OU). The 16 Speed EVs won't help you live any hits.
  14. AccidentalGreed

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    Response to the Garchomp EVs (open)
    I agree. 16 EVs in HP or any of its defenses won't make a difference in Garchomp, and you might as well go on a ball and defeat Jirachi, Zapdos, opposing Garchomp, Salamence, and Flygon while keepig a steady amount of bulk.

    To rub salt in the wounds:

    Choice Specs Espeon Timid Psychic versus 4 HP Garchomp: 70.7% - 83.2%
    Choice Specs Espeon Timid Psychic versus 16 HP Garchomp: 70.1% - 82.5%

    Life Orb Jolteon Timid HP Ice versus 4 HP Garchomp w/Yache Berry: 57% - 67%
    Life Orb Jolteon Timid HP Ice versus 16 HP Garchomp w/Yache Berry: 56.5% - 66.5%

    Nope, you're not surviving anything significant.


    Response to the Dual Screen-Transform set (open)
    I assume you're utilizing Mew. Both are equally effective depending on what your team needs. If Mew is not supported by Sleep, you can use Hypnosis, but it has 60% accuracy, so you're gonna have to be careful on that one. If you're playing by the Sleep Clause, Reflect and Light Screen are both more long-term than the inaccurate Hypnosis. Personally, I'd rather support the team long-term and not use a near flip-coin chance of crippling another Pokemon. Hypnosis and other sleep movesis better left to sweeping Pokemon such as Persian and Darkrai.
  15. Tony_M_W

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    Endure + Protect fails right?
  16. Veedrock

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    50% chance to succeed.

    Same time post..
  17. Shining Kestral

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    Endure and Protect run off the same "counter" so Protect would have a 50% chance of working.
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    Does anyone know what the chance of success is if the move is used three times in a row?
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  20. Ubermensch

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    Is there a chart or something that details the probability of success?
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    First use: 100%
    Second Use: 50%
    Third Use: 10%
    Fourth Use: Presumably Fail

    It's never worth using more then twice and rarely that often.
  22. blackritual0

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    ok, i need a very fast pokemon, with fairly good defensive capabil;ities that can learn roar or whirlwind and work well with a stall team, prefferably can learn perhaps subsitute or somethin as well, any ideas??
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    Drapion has base 95 speed, has 70/110/75 defenses which is not bad at all, learns both roar and whirlwind, can learn substitute, and functions well on a stall team as it can lay out toxic spikes AND absorb any toxic spikes on your side of the field that will otherwise give you trouble.
  25. blackritual0

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    hmm.... thats actually not a bad idea. maybe a little higher with the speed stats though, i want it to be able to attack first just about everytime.
    That actually may work pretty well though..

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