1. New to the forums? Check out our Mentorship Program!
    Our mentors will answer your questions and help you become a part of the community!
  2. Welcome to Smogon Forums! Please take a minute to read the rules.

Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer - NU Edition

Discussion in 'BW NU' started by tennisace, Dec 10, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. JacobJinglepocket

    JacobJinglepocket

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2011
    Messages:
    44
    Articuno and Charizard are good, provided you can keep Stealth Rock off the field. Gardevoir also has better defenses than Kadabra, as well as access to Focus Blast
  2. Zebraiken

    Zebraiken is it true what they say, that words are weapons?
    is a member of the Site Staffis an official Team Rateris a Super Moderatoris a Community Contributoris a Pokemon Researcheris a Tiering Contributoris a Contributor to Smogonis a Battle Server Moderator
    NU Co-Leader

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Messages:
    3,206
    You're not going to find the 'perfect' special sweeper that's both fast and bulky in NU, because most of those belong to upper tiers. You can actually organize all of the Pokemon in NU by their Speed by clicking on this link and then clicking on the Spe tab on the top (it works for any of the stats, or even the typing!).

    Some of my personal favorite fast special sweepers are Serperior (although it's not that good in this metagame because of Cinccino), Simipour, and Swoobat.
  3. Diatom

    Diatom An enigma
    is a Battle Server Moderator Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2012
    Messages:
    159
    @JoshuaMunoz: You could try scarf Gardevoir; it's fast with a scarf and still hits reasonably hard.
  4. A Fhaol Bhig

    A Fhaol Bhig

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    197
    What Pokemon are faster then Gorebyss after it has Shell-Smashed that can OHKO it with a choice Scarf?
  5. ChaoticaMortis

    ChaoticaMortis

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2011
    Messages:
    518
    Rotom-S, Cinccino, Braviary, Sawk, and a few others iirc.
  6. locket

    locket

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Messages:
    3
    though with gothitelle running around right now, putting a scarf on gardevoir is kind of shaky.
    cinccino is the first thing that comes to mind.
  7. CrashinBoomBang

    CrashinBoomBang Aye I got Swagger, Koga 87
    is a Contributor to Smogonis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis Smogon Frontier's Factory Foreman

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    1,037
    If Gorebyss is Timid then both Braviary and Sawk fail to outspeed it. They also fail to OHKO White Herb versions.

    Any Pokemon with more than 298 or more speed (86 or more Base Speed assuming a speed boosting nature) can revenge kill even Timid Gorebyss as long as it can OHKO. Rotom-S, Cinccino (White Herb versions only after Stealth Rock), Zebstrika, Electabuzz, Haunter and Raichu all come to mind.
  8. R3CK3Dx

    R3CK3Dx

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2012
    Messages:
    1
    Im new to this. Can someone tell me how to connect to wifi on my DS lite. It says i have to change my security from WPA to WEP and i dont want to do this. Is there anyway to work around this or do i need to get a new DS?
  9. bean1706

    bean1706

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    110
    The ds lite can only connect to wep so you're going to have to get a newer model of the ds that can connect to wpa if you're not willing to change your security.
  10. Arcticblast

    Arcticblast Deer Lord
    is a Tiering Contributoris a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Community Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnusis a SPL Winner
    Mentor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    5,411
    Do people only use subpar spinners like Wartortle because there's only one really viable spinner (Armaldo) and they can't find room for that?
  11. drakon136

    drakon136

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2011
    Messages:
    193
    I can only think of two reasons for why people use stuff like Wartortle. It's the only spinner available that isn't weak to SR (not counting Tyrogue for obvious reasons), and some people assume that Wartortle beats Golurk because Water-types > Ground-types. Even though Wartortle loses to it.
  12. FLCL

    FLCL
    is a Tiering Contributoris a Contributor to Smogonis a Team Rater Alumnusis a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Community Contributor Alumnusis Smogon Frontier's Salon Maidenis a Past SPL Winner

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2010
    Messages:
    2,201
    A lot of bad players use Wartortle because it's not weak to Stealth Rock and can hit Golurk super effectively. However, it is a horrible bulky Water outside of Rapid Spinning and can't spin against Golurk half the time because Scald doesn't do enough and gets 2HKOed by Earthquake. Personally, I would never consider using it but some people do.
  13. Annoyer

    Annoyer =)~

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2012
    Messages:
    656
    Other than Golurk, Wartortle can't beat SubDisable Haunter (Haunter's most common set atm) and it's just plain set-up fodder for CM or NP Misdreavus. It's lack of recovery and offensive pressure makes it a bad spinner. I'd also like to say that Torkoal is also a semi-viable spinner due to it actually doing something other than spinning such as setting up SR or checking certain pokemon due to its high physical bulk. It loses to Golurk obviously but Will-o-Wisp cripples Golurk greatly.
  14. Lambo209

    Lambo209

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2012
    Messages:
    12
    Any good physically defensive rapid spinners In NU?
  15. CrashinBoomBang

    CrashinBoomBang Aye I got Swagger, Koga 87
    is a Contributor to Smogonis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis Smogon Frontier's Factory Foreman

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    1,037
    Your best bet would probably using Torkoal or Armaldo who both have good physical defense and beat Golurk switching in pretty well (Torkoal with Shell Smash mainly). Both of them are Stealth Rock weak, unfortunately.

    Wartortle also has good defense but loses to Golurk more often than not so it's not that good of a spinner, but it's still usable.
  16. Zebraiken

    Zebraiken is it true what they say, that words are weapons?
    is a member of the Site Staffis an official Team Rateris a Super Moderatoris a Community Contributoris a Pokemon Researcheris a Tiering Contributoris a Contributor to Smogonis a Battle Server Moderator
    NU Co-Leader

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Messages:
    3,206
    there are no 'good' rapid spinners :(

    torkoal, armaldo, or wartortle are your best bets

    TWO SECONDS god damnit
  17. Flashrider57

    Flashrider57

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    463
    Torkoal and Armaldo are two good choices. They can also set up Stealth Rock too, which is a plus.
  18. Lambo209

    Lambo209

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2012
    Messages:
    12
    Would Thunderbolt or Discharge be a viable option for Ampharos?
  19. Raseri

    Raseri here to help
    is a Tutoris a member of the Site Staffis a Forum Moderatoris a Community Contributoris a Tiering Contributoris a Contributor to Smogonis a Researcher Alumnusis a Smogon Media Contributor Alumnus
    NU Co-Leader

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    3,438
    Both are viable options, it just depends on what role Ampharos has on your team. If you are using Ampharos for its good bulk and are playing it defensively I would use Discharge. If you are using Ampharos for its high Special Attack and using it offensively I would use Thunderbolt
  20. Incon

    Incon

    Joined:
    May 23, 2012
    Messages:
    298
    Hey Lambo209, I would say that it depends on the set you are using. If you are using a move offensive set then thunderbolt is the way to go. If you are using a bulkier set, then i would personally use discharge because of its high paralysis rate.

    Edit: Raseri, you ninja :D.
  21. Lambo209

    Lambo209

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2012
    Messages:
    12
    Would Quick Feet be a better option than Guts on Ursaring? I think that speed increases Ursaring's sweeping potential.
  22. ChaoticaMortis

    ChaoticaMortis

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2011
    Messages:
    518
    Zangoose already has much more Speed. If you want Speed, use it instead. Let Ursaring stick to what it is the king of: village crushing. Guts all the way.
  23. Lambo209

    Lambo209

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2012
    Messages:
    12
    Yeah I'm sort of new in term's of experience so I might ask alot of questions. Sorry
  24. ChaoticaMortis

    ChaoticaMortis

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2011
    Messages:
    518
    Don't apologize, it's not a big deal. We appreciate new users that have enthusiasm.
  25. Lambo209

    Lambo209

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2012
    Messages:
    12
    Is Gardevoir better than Gothitelle at Support/Stalling?
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Users Viewing Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 0)