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Awesomeness Mafia Postgame - Zorbees & BT strongth

Discussion in 'Circus Maximus' started by polelover44, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. polelover44


    Dec 14, 2008
    Alright let's go over the roles.

    The Awesome/Badass/Otherwise Really Cool people

    Da Letter El - Severus Snape - Silencer - Killed Day 1
    Role: Basic silencer, not much to say about it. Silencer+Persuader would have been godkill.

    Player: Didn't do much. Didn't get his Night 0 action in because I moved the deadline up a bit due to time constraints, so he silenced himself. Amake shot him upon being lynched, and that was the end of that.

    Amake - Admiral Ackbar - 1-for-1 Lynch shooter - Lynched Day 1
    Role: Pretty basic, taken right out of SW Mafia. He has no night role, no regular role, but shoots someone upon being lynched.

    Player: Was lynched Day 1, shot a villager. Not much to say about the way he played, obviously didn't do much.

    -Mind- - Captain Kirk - 2-time vigilante - Killed Night 3
    Role: Simple enough. Had two kills and was aligned with the village.

    Player: Unfortunately, he was inspected and killed by one of the baddies. Didn't really do much, he idled all the nights because LW had no jobs for him.

    hailflameblast - Han Solo - Rogue - Godkilled Day 4
    Role: Simple rogue. If the person who killed him was the person who he stalked, or (if the stalkee was mafia), one of his teammates, he gets resurrected.

    Player: Raverist was subbed out because he was idle. Hailflfameblast was forced to vote for himself and failed to do so, getting him godkilled. Bad playing much?

    Alchemator - Spartacus - Redirector - Lynched Day 5
    Role: Simple redirector, it was unlimited but wouldn't work with kills.

    Player: YoshiX was subbed out because he was idle, and Alch was lynched on his first day in. Just bad luck on Alch's part.

    Spiffy - Ted Kennedy - Twin - Killed Night 5
    Role: Basic twin. When one of these two (the other being Altair) died, the other would gain killing skills.

    Player: Basically just a village vote, not a very useful role lol. Didn't do much, then died.

    LightWolf - Joan of Arc - Hooker - Killed Night 5
    Role: Basic hooker.

    Player: Led the village to lynching 3 mafias, as well as causing the nighttime death of another - that's half the mafias down. Eventually died to to Eo's priority being raised by Blue_Tornado, allowing it to get past the bodyguard. Played very well, I commend him.

    AlphaBravo - Theodore Roosevelt - Mayor - Lynched Day 6
    Role: Basic mayor

    Player: Was idle most of the game, I was about to sub him out at the end of Day 6, but he was lynched then.

    Itchni - Samuel L. Jackson - Bodyguard - Killed Night 6
    Role: Simple BG

    Player: Was on LightWolf, then Finn. Died because wolf killed him.

    Game Freak201 - Sparta - 1-time vigilante - Killed Night 6
    Role: Simple vigilante, only 1 kill though.

    Player: Idled most of the game, but then used his one kill on Slim Guldo. Not much you can do with this, but he got an lpv mafia, good job.

    Altair - Blue Man Group - Twin - hijacked lynch Day 7
    Role: Got the 2-time vigilante when Spiffy died, before then was simply a village vote.

    Player: Got one kill, then died upon AG's hijacked lynch Day 7. Not much you can do with this and unfortunately got a village with the only kill he used.

    FinnRagetti - Mr. Burns - Persuader - Killed Night 7
    Role: Simple persuader, yada yada.

    Player: Claimed neutral to mole the mafia, didn't work for him though. He never lynched a mafia in his short time as village leader, but he did pretty well before them.

    Darkamber8828 - Gary Oak - Yes/No Question Asker - Survived
    Role: Simple Y/N Question Asker, not really much to say

    Player: Did a good job keeping a low profile, ended up losing when the village had no chance in Night 8.

    Team Aether - Joseph Ducreux - Full Inspector - Survived
    Role: Full Inspector, no twists of any sort, etc.

    Player: Kept a low profile, all three of them (Agape, Dogfish, TA) did well, inspected the right guys, good job.

    The Internet Memes

    UncleSam - Chuck Norris - Kidnapper - Lynched Day 2
    Role: Simple Kidnapper.

    Player: US played well. Caused some stir Days 1 and 2 with his violent kidnappings, but was randtargeted with an inspect Night 1 and lynched.

    Raito - Chocolate Rain - Delayed Roleblocker - Godkilled Day 3
    Role: A roleblocker with a twist. Instead of happening that night, it would have first priority the next.

    Player: Played alright Nights 0,1,and 2. Unfortunately didn't have enough time to vote Day 3 and was godkilled due to not following through on the persuasion. Probably my fault, I should have given him more time.

    Slim Guldo - Mudkipz - One-time lpv - Killed Night 4
    Role: I probably should have made him an unlimited lpv, but it didn't matter in the end.

    Player: He didn't really do much at all the entire game. Was killed by Game Freak201 Night 4, and that was that for him.

    Eo Ut Mortus - Rickroll - Inspector - Godkilled Night 8
    Role: Basic inspector blah blah blah.

    Player: Played excellently, surviving through the last night. When he saw he had no chance of winning on Night 8, he godkilled himself by posting when kidnapped.

    The losing Neutral
    Aura Guardian - Kanye West - Kills/Inspects/One-time lynch hijack - Killed Night 7
    Role: Interestingly enough, two thirds of these abilities are the same as supermarth's wolf PM from Pokemon Lynchpin Mafia. The other one was stolen right out of Unicycle, where it was Engineer Pikachu's role.

    Player: AG played very well. He kept a low profile until the mafia found him out towards the end. He was going to win but zorbees realized this and killed him.

    And now, the winners!

    The George Bushes

    Coronis - George W. Bush - Roleblocker - killed Night 2
    Role: Simple roleblocker

    Player: Didn't do much, as he was randed by AG early on and died.

    theangryscientist - Sauron - Mole - George Bushes - Lynched Day 3
    Role: Basic mole

    Player: Didn't get into the game, as he was lynched early on by LW.

    Kharozz - George H.W. Bush - Bodyguard - Lynched Day 4
    Role: Basic bodyguard.

    Player: Played well, protecting Coronis then zorbees, but ended up being lynched by LW in his great streak.

    Zorbees - John McCain - Kidnapper - Survived
    Role: Basic kidnapper.

    Player: Played impeccably. Just kept on killing. Kidnapped Eo Night 7, so that he would be gone for his kill night, and wouldn't return until zorbees' next kill night. Sided with Blue_Tornado after Aura Guardian died, and ended up winning.

    The winning neutrals
    assassinfred - Luigi - ability thief - Killed Night 4
    Role: could gain abilities from other people and use them to his advantage.

    Player: Got LightWolf's N0, and used it from then on, despite getting UncleSam's N1. Then was randed by Eo N4.

    Blue_Tornado - Mario - Priority modifier - Survived
    Role: Basic priority modifier

    Player: Upped assassinfred's priority until he died, then worked with the mafia after the death of LightWolf, eventually winning with zorbees. Played very well.

    I think we can all learn a very important message from this game and from Megaman Battle Network Mafia *coughreyscarfacecough*:

    and now the awards:
    Best host - polelover44
    Worst host - polelover44
    Best village - LightWolf
    Best Meme - Eo Ut Mortus
    Best Bush - zorbees
    Best Neutral - Aura Guardian (kudos to BT for winning though!)
    Best Cohost - Agape (even though he never ACTUALLY cohosted)
  2. Slim Guldo

    Slim Guldo

    Jan 6, 2010
    Yeah, all I did this game was nearly give away my teammate day 1 and then contact the other mafia before I died (which was pretty much useless anyway!)

    Also I wanna know how I was found out, so that I can avoid making the mistakes I made this game and improve for the next time I'm mafia!

    EDIT: I actually didn't know that we'd inspected -mind-, shows how bad our communication was (he never appeared on the sheet so yeah :/)
  3. polelover44


    Dec 14, 2008
  4. Slim Guldo

    Slim Guldo

    Jan 6, 2010
    Oh :/

    I was pretty lazy with my claim anyway (couldn't use most of them since my lynchproof flavour was really different to most of our claims, and I'd already nearly given away Eo (once again thanks Amake for killing DLE, that helped a lot!)), so I just stole Finn's role from pokemon lynchpin :(
  5. Eo Ut Mortus

    Eo Ut Mortus Elodin Smells
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    Jun 3, 2007
    That's because we never inspected him. zorbees was also responsible for killing LightWolf, not me (although I did get him and B_T in contact). In retrospect, I should have probably tried to be more active instead of letting zorbees do all the negotiating.
  6. Aura Guardian

    Aura Guardian

    Dec 25, 2009
    By the mafia finding me out, I assume that means, "caught me after I contacted them." I'd claimed neutral harmless to the mafia to zorbees, but accidentally talked in the wrong box (to zorbees when I meant to B_T) revealing myself as wolf. Also, Eo just might have told him, too.

    Anyway, great game, and thanks for hosting, polelover44. At least I managed to guarantee that the village lost.

    (In retrospect, I should have claimed to only be able to find the flavor or the role name or something like that. Then I would have been not as suspected by Lightwolf)
  7. zorbees

    zorbees Chwa for no reason!
    is a Forum Moderator

    Dec 29, 2008
    Eo told me you were wolf, and I had figured it anyways but of course could never be 100% sure. You made a (IMO) foolish decision saving me but I don't know how it would have played out if you hadn't.

    Anyways I got B_T to up my priority by claiming that I was a BG trying to protect myself but a martyr was messing with me. I claimed to have needed 18 people dead in order to win and offered BT my protection for Nights 6 and 7 claiming I wanted to protect myself Night 5 (When in reality I was killing Lightwolf). I don't know how much he actually believed me but I was all alone and felt I needed to take the risk dealing with him. Lightwolf was doing so well leading the village and I thought I needed him dead in order to win. I still wasn't sure if it would work because Lightwolf could have hooked me that night, but he didn't, and due to some fortunate mislynches, I was able to win. It was a fun game.
  8. supermarth64

    supermarth64 Here I stand in the light of day
    is a Contributor Alumnus

    Dec 26, 2008
    Aw you remember me, how sweet.
  9. Itchni


    Jun 11, 2008
    What happened N1? did the killer get hooked? who got targeted?
  10. polelover44


    Dec 14, 2008
    Coronis hooked, AG kidnapped.
  11. Spiffy


    Jun 10, 2009
    Good game, everyone. Blue_Tornado was the best player in my opinion. He completely wrecked us later in the game. I made tons of mistakes early on, when I wasn't yet used to forum Mafia. If Altair wasn't so lenient on giving out his role PM, he may not have been taken out by A_G and could have killed quietly. But I'd also like to thank Altair for giving good advice when I asked for it.
    Thanks for the game polelover. This is a pretty good community of players. I'll be sticking around here for a while, and will be sure to sign up for the next game you host. ;)
    (I sure know how to flatter, don't I?)
  12. Game Freak201

    Game Freak201

    May 9, 2008
    I liked the game, though I had a pretty boring role. I was hoping to be able to help lead the village since my role was useless after Slim Guldo's death. Oh well, I did the best I could with what I had.
  13. assassinfred


    Aug 27, 2008
    good game! Also, I inspected UncleSam, which lead to his lynch. After that, I had LW's trust, at least I thought I did until BT told me he wanted him to down my priority. Either way, good playing, BT! You pulled it out for us. Too bad I got randkilled. tbh, I thought LW was behind the killing of me. But, I'm pleased to know that it was a randkill. Also, you forgot to mention that I inspected Raito as well, but forgot to submit my results to LW. He got killed that day anyway, so, I suppose it doesn't matter.
  14. LightWolf

    LightWolf lightwoof
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnus

    Jul 26, 2008
    Uh no lol, I didn't trust you, not even for a second, but I guessed you wouldn't waste your life on a us4eless villager so I believed that unclesam was really bad(though you never edited your flavour when sending me your results so I knew you absorbed powers)

    So yes let's get to this, my opinion and analysis on every player.

    DLE and Amake: not much I can see, I didn't do anything before they died, though it was stupid to come out early like that, such a thing is better left for later, to kill the likes of a LPV...

    Mind: Was an early claim which I was really happy about, as every important role claimed after the night ended, sadly with so few claims I didn't want to risk randoming, I was gonna use him and gamefreak the night after he died so that didn't work out.

    hfb/Raverist: Raverist never claimed which led to me asking a question wrong with darkamber, which would have revealed zorbees earlier, and we all know what hfb did.....

    Alchemator/Yoshix: I already said everything I needed to saya about this...

    Spiffy/Altair: Well not much they could have done, Spiffy tried to make a big target out of himself but with altair openly claiming twin didn't help, but meh it's not like any leader stepped up at that point so altair had to do something.

    AlphaBravo: Claimed mayor, never really voted, but god he should have never been lynched, check the damn sheet I give you next time my dear BG.

    Itchni: Ah the BG, loyally protecting me the whole game, sadly was unable to check the sheet when I died which I had made some markings on that should have at least made some suspects obvious.

    Gamefreak: Did what he had to and followed my orders, best village that didn't turn up as mafia after mind(and hey they were both vigs wow)

    FinnRagetti: He helkped me, got some mafia god killed, tried to lead, number 3 villager in my book, sadly never got the sheet.

    Darkamber/Team Aether: did what they had to, thanks.

    EDIT: Them Mafias:

    UncleSam: His fake looked really nice and well written, and was tbh the best fake, if there weren't already two people claiming vigs(well he claimed he'd get powers after some time but vig was kind of obvious) I'd have most likely let him live till his abilities activated, but assassinfred kinda hit the last nail into his coffin.

    Raito: He claimed the same power he really had, and tbh I didn't believe him for a second(me and him on the same team? Yeah no). Was originally the lynch target for the day I he was made to vote himself but new info came up and then he ended up getting godkilled.

    Slim Guldo: He basically pasted the Cleffa PM from lynchpin, and added the village wc to it, I doubted that polelover would go that far(and I already saw from some claims that few roles were inspired by the lynchpin roles(rogue, BPV as a fake, the two vigs)). So after getting him inspected(sorry that I doubted you polelover) I got Gamefreak to kill him.

    Eo: Claimed killer vig, he basically kills his target if he tried to kill him one time, was unsure about it, could have been an experimental role and I didn't get a real rogue claim till hfb subbed in... So I decided to redirect everything to him, I doubted that I could redirect kills but he would be an excellent test rat, having an ability that is mostly useless, giving me free time to test other claims on him... But yeah Yoshix only did it once(damned idlers) so only a BG was ever redirected to him...

    Coronis: Claimed yes/no asker, which I already had one of(god I had to deal with two inspects and two yes/no men...) but A) his looked much less convincing than that of darkamber's(seriously the unsure result thing ruined it a lot) and B) he got randkilled.

    Kharozz: Claimed randomiser which was an easy lynch once I got his claim. This was an EW approved game, and know as a fact that EW is against this role. That and all his claimed targets were not only dead but mafia even, and didn't even claim to have been redirected, sealing his fate.

    theangryscientist: Doubted him from the start, especially with the already mentioned similarity with the lynchpin game, so I got darkamber on the question: Is there a BPV on the village, the answer was obvious...

    Zorbees: Claimed auto one time revive if he dies. Due to the absence of Raverist's claim I asked the question to get him wrong, and with that wasted a night sadly, ended up being a big mistake right there, would have p much changed the game(don't idle people!!!)

    And the fuckers, I mean Neutrals:

    assassinfred: Claimed power inspect... Got suspicious about him, set up a few traps but he got them all right, so I decided to go for him, asked about his role though darkamber the night he was killed(tbh even before I tried to get around the fact he was important a bit, no idea if that had an effect), next time please don't claim to have inspected someone who got kidnapped the same night...

    B_T: One question I have been thinking about, and ended up with that, that you aren't telling the full truth about your choice to support zorbees... Your argument was: The village screwed up, they didn't deserve to win. But you were the one to cause my death, and at that time we had only made on mistake, and that was because of idlers. Not that I can you, I blame polelover here, no actually I blame EW, bad EW stop letting this neutrals happen! Seriously, it has been said millions of times, make a neutral that can't side with any team or can only side with one, either way a harmful one/ones.


    Aura Guardian: God, you claiming inspect gave me a lot of headaches. But then again, you were working for me with your inspects at least, so I guessed why not? Tbh I believed till I died that you were the meme inspect.

    LightWolf: Good doggie
  15. Blue_Tornado


    Apr 14, 2009

    Assassinfred, I thought I told you already the reason Eo killed you (I think?) was because of LW's going around saying you were a powerful villager on purpose. Ah well.

    And LW, at the time I didn't really trust Zorbees' claim, but then again, I wasn't so involved in the village and didn't know what was going on, and if Zorbees was telling the truth I had nothing to lose. And I was assuming the village had it won already so I thought helping out a potential mafia might save me from getting killed for the remains of the game. Yeah, that made Zorbees bypass the bg and kill you, leaving no real leader to lynch off the final suspects. But then again, if the village were to be operating with your sheet there shouldn't have been a problem at all. But that didn't happen, and it's not your fault and not mine either.

    Short: Supported Zorbees to higher my chances of winning, since I thought helping a mafia wouldn't stop the village at that point. Eh... -_____-
  16. LightWolf

    LightWolf lightwoof
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnus

    Jul 26, 2008
    It's not like you could lose what ever you did, no one had a reason to waste anything on you.
  17. Blue_Tornado


    Apr 14, 2009
    Sure nobody found it worthwhile to kill me, but then again, if some killer didn't know who I was? One of the viligantes? Some other mafia? A_G? It was "added safety".
  18. UncleSam

    UncleSam Leading this village
    is a Forum Moderator

    May 12, 2009
    Tbh the village should have lynched BT one of the last days since he could cause nothing but harm and both the inspect and Y/N asker were alive. That's what I would have done, anyway.
  19. FinnRagetti


    Jun 15, 2008
    LightWolf played very well, except for the misstep with Alchemator. Best Villager 9/10

    Itchni did well, but after LightWolf's death, he needed to access the spreadsheet and at least give it to another person, like Darkamber8828, myself, or Team Aether. I think this was a good start for him as his first game (this is your fast game right?) 7/10

    *insert more later*

    I did well under the circumstances, but I mislynched AlphaBravo, which led to the village demise...I did kill 2 people with my powers of persuasion. ;D. 7/10

    Also, comments on the host: Polelover, you did pretty good for the most part, but I think you needed to be tighter on the inactivity (yoshix and AlphaBravo) as well as posts overall. You forgot to tell Coronis that he was persuaded, but you still did well handling it by giving me two persuades at once. The Mario duo definitely messed the game up. 5/10
  20. Earthworm

    is a Tournament Director Alumnusis a Super Moderator Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Smogon Media Contributor Alumnusis a Past SPL and WCoP Championis the Smogon Tour Season 6 Champion

    Nov 3, 2007
    Sorry about that, I could have sworn I asked for the WCs for the neutrals but I checked my PM inbox and it turns out I didn't. I think I am remembering some other game I approved, and I forgot for this one. I didn't get to see the WCs of the neutral team when I approved it, but that doesn't alleviate the blame from me, so again I'm sorry about that!
  21. LightWolf

    LightWolf lightwoof
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnus

    Jul 26, 2008
    I was just kidding EW, don't blame yourself lol.

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