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B&W Research Thread

Discussion in 'BW Competitive Discussion' started by ΩDonut, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. b2j135

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    I'll tell you right now: Rotom\Giratina formes: Usable on WiFi now?
    Giratina is banned on Random Wi-fi but Rotom formes aren't so yes, this is true. I know because I just face a girl with a shiny rotom-w I'm not sure if it's the same on Union Room/Wi-Fi Club though.
  2. ΩDonut

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    Just tried to Sleep Powder a Mebukijika. Herbivore activated and Sleep Powder had no effect. The same thing probably happens to Spore and Stun Spore, probably even Cotton Spore and Worry Seed.

    Possibly not Grasswhistle, though.
  3. Naxte

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    Hmm, I'd like more testing on this to be done, to make sure. For all we know, this girl could have just used some sort of AR code to force Rotom-W to be allowed online, similar to the ones from 4th gen. So, if someone could try using Rotom-W themselves and see what happens, that would be great.
  4. dbolt

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    Switched in an Emonga with a Balloon when Stealth Rock was on the field, it was still holding the item after switching.
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    Tested this with a rankurusu holding Griseous orb using Trick on my snorlax and it worked.
    It also worked on my opponents choroneko.
  6. SupremeDirt

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    So Trick fails on Giratina with the Orb, but anything else is fair game?

    Does Griseous Orb, now that it can be held by anything, offer anything to any other Pokémon in the game, such as boosting everything's Ghost and Dragon moves, or only Giratina?
  7. Jonathan

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    I just tested a multi-hit move against a Rugged Helmet user, and it does in fact activate between hits. Not sure if this was implied in OmegaDonut's blurb on Rugged Helmet, but I wanted to test it just to be sure. I presume (but haven't tested) that the same thing applies to the abilities Rough Skin & Iron Barbs.

    This is shaping up to be a really awesome item, if you switch-in on a Cloyster using Icicle Spear you can rack up 83% damage against it!
  8. mattj

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    Only giratina
  9. Thorhammer

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    Icicle Spear isn't a contact move.
  10. Jonathan

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    Ah crap you're right. For some reason I thought it was...
    Anyway I tested it with Arm Thrust and it worked, so my information definitely isn't faulty.
  11. UltiMario

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    Icicle Spear isn't even a contact move.

    Edit: wow way to get super ninja'd
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    Maybe
    this is the whole "Fresh" set of rules that was rumoured to exist. Since this rumour wasn't found within the options, maybe this is it.
  13. Badgerzftw

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    I turned off all cheats I had (which were simply pokemon AR codes from kazo's early SAV program) and can confirm that rotom forms work on friend code wifi battles. I have not tested giratina.
  14. TheMaskedNitpicker

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    I believe that in 4th gen, Magic Coat could only reflect one move per use, so I don't think this is a change. I'm 100% sure Snatch could only steal one move, but I'll retest Magic Coat later today.

    What I'm wondering is if Magic Coat now reflects moves targeted at the Magic Coat user's allies, or just at the Magic Coat user as before.
  15. Emperor

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    just to put this up again. It didn't look like anybody noticed lol
  16. SupremeDirt

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    Nah, just more we're testing things with singles right now.

    I have a bunch of things I've tested, but I'm ironing them out. Lack of in-game rotation battles is pretty annoying.
  17. Sixfortyfive

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    Has anybody checked to see if there are legality/hack checks in place for different battle modes (random wi-fi, friend codes, local, etc.)? I see that random wi-fi enforces some kind of move check, but what about blatantly illegal stuff like 510+ EV spreads or more subtle things like illegal Pokeball/move combinations?

    I wouldn't expect local versus to have any kind of move check (seeing as how new games always add new tutors and so forth), but a built-in EV check would be a godsend for local tournaments.
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    What are abilities #155, #140, #135, and #142?
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    Serebii posted where Rotation/Triple battles are. They're both kind of exclusive to one game (i.e. Black has only 1 Triple, White has only one Rotation).

    http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/versionbattle.shtml

    Edit: Hope that helps testing.
  20. Enlong

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    Has anyone tried using Beat Up, to see how its damage is calculated now?
  21. ΩDonut

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    I know Magic Coat can only reflect one move per round, but what I thought was that jumpluff used Foresight one round, got bounced back, and then used Foresight again the next round, only for it to succeed.
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    Ah, my apologies! (My brain tends to automatically assume double battles.) That's very interesting if confirmed. I wonder why that would happen?

    EDIT: Perhaps Magic Coat now can't bounce back moves that wouldn't work on the user? Can we confirm that Confuse Ray can be reflected back onto an already confused target, for instance?
  23. dbolt

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    I confirmed this a few pages back, just forgot to go into further detail.

    Herbivore grants an immunity to non-damaging Grass moves as well. Spore, Stun Spore, Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, Worry Seed, Cotton Spore and Grasswhistle have no effect and the pokemon gets the Attack boost.
  24. ΩDonut

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    Okay. Fixed.

    I will laugh so hard if this means it can't be healed by Aromatherapy.
  25. Maverick Hunter

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    I Have friends who just battled against ramdom people with Generation 4 move tutor and TM... I'm Sure that don't battle against this people is just an option.

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