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B&W Research Thread

Discussion in 'BW Competitive Discussion' started by ΩDonut, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. Probopass Sausages

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    How does this affect Regigigas's Slow Start ability if it starts out in the back?
  2. Sixonesix

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    Tested with a Jolly 252 attack 31 IV lv. 50 Houndoom's Crunch vs. 29/31/31/2/31/31 lv. 50 Metagross with 252 HP, 252 attack, 6 defense.
    Normal damage range: 42-52 HP

    First 10 tests with Houndoom holding Dark Jewel vs. Metagross
    69 HP lost
    64 HP lost
    66 HP lost
    66 HP lost
    67 HP lost
    69 HP lost
    70 HP lost
    76 HP lost
    66 HP lost
    70 HP lost

    This leads me to believe the multiplier is 1.5x, since 1.5x the normal damage range would be 63-78 HP. Even though I didn't get the absolute minimum or maximum values in the test, I got enough of a range to know it's between 1.4x and 1.6x.

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    Bulb does not grant an immunity to electric moves, and once it's used, it disappears.
    Volt Absorb activates before Bulb does, making it have no effect.
  3. TheMaskedNitpicker

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    You're talking about Rechargeable Battery, right? Not Bulb?
  4. Squid Ninja

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    Furthermore, do all your Pokemon run on the same Protect success counter during a Rotation battle?
  5. Sixonesix

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    Is that what that was? Gah, I can't read...Japanese, that is.
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    Well, to be fair, the OP says Bulb/Electric/SpAtk when it should say Bulb/Water/SpAtck or Rechargeable Battery/Electric/Attack.
  7. Sixonesix

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    In any case, I tested the electric one, whatever that was. The one called jyuudenchi.
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    No, my Yooteri was definately at almost full health when he picked up the oran. Cheren's pokabu was brought down to the red by a take down, ate it's own berry, then as the turn ended, Yooteri used pickup. When the battle ended, I checked my pokemon screen and saw that Yooteri was holding the oran.
  10. TheMaskedNitpicker

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    Moves that are boosted by Iron Fist have a special flag in the data. I just scanned the data, and I don't believe any moves new in 5th gen qualify.
  11. TwilightMystery

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    Actually, I think I read from a Japanese site that Iron Fist might have gotten increased power. This should be low priority, but it would be interesting to test old abilities such as Iron Fist and Reckless to see if they got any power boosts.
  12. Mario With Lasers

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    Just to be 101% sure, does this boost only apply to Cross moves, or to any other move of them both? Either after the other dragon used a Cross move, or the following turn after your dragon had its Cross move's power boosted.
  13. Sixonesix

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    Escape Button mechanics
    Sequence: user receives hit, item animation, item message, user switches
    - Triggered by both contact and non-contact attacks
    - Item activates as soon as the holder is hit, even if it has not made a move yet
    - Holder picks the next pokemon to switch in (similar to Baton Pass)
    - Item is one-time use
    - Works through Bind
    - Suction Cups does not prevent this item's effect
    - Ingrain does not prevent this item's effect


    Red Card mechanics
    Sequence: user receives hit, item animation, item message, opponent switches
    - Triggered by both contact and non-contact attacks
    - The Pokemon that activates Red Card is switched out immediately
    - The player cannot choose the pokemon to switch with the Pokemon that activated Red Card (similar to Roar)
    - Item is one-time use
    - Does not work if the holder is KOed by the attack
    - Suction Cups does prevent this item's effect
    - Ingrain does prevent this item's effect
  14. Colonel M

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    While I appreciate the credit, I didn't make the video (I just only brought up the situation really). The SpA being noted should probably go toward the creator of the Youtube video.
  15. DDRMaster

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    No I meant the berry would only activate if the Pokemon meets the requirements. So the Pokemon would only eat the Berry automatically if they met the requirements. Sorry for the confusion.
  16. ΩDonut

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    You were the first to notice it and bring it up here, though.
  17. Sixonesix

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    Just tested, Thunder Wave did not activate Rechargeable Battery, but Thunderbolt did when it was used the following turn.
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    When you say "triggered by non-contact attacks," does that mean contact attacks don't activate them?
  19. Sixonesix

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    They both do. I'll edit that.
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    Does the switch occur after both Pokemon get a move, like this:

    Pokemon A attacks
    Pokemon B attacks
    Escape Button Activates

    or

    Pokemon A attacks
    Escape Button activates

    Does the attack land?
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    Escape Button activates the instant the holder is hit, even if it has not made a move yet.
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    I have a question about Escape Button, I know this is gimmicky, but does it work for pokemon that uses hyper beam/giga impact?
  23. Sixonesix

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    Yes, if a Pokemon holding Escape Button uses Giga Impact, it can still switch out if it gets hit.
  24. Frost Nocturne

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    I was wondering about Iron Fist too. Now that the new ability Encourage gives a 1.3 boost might Iron Fist also be 1.3 now?

    Also, I know this is low priority because it is Dream-World only, but has anyone tested how much of a boost Analyse gives?
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    I've concluded it on the damage dealt alone. A special based 140 BP Steel attack from Jirachi should deal between 88 - 105 damage on Blissey, which fit my results perfectly. If the move lacked a STAB boost it should have done 74 - 88 damage

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