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B&W Research Thread

Discussion in 'BW Competitive Discussion' started by ΩDonut, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. Nicholas Magnum

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    Does the life orb recil is also canceled for moves with negative effects?
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    Does Mischievous Heart give Roar +0 priority? (Riolu)
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  4. Plusle

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    Mischevious heart adds +1 priority and roar is -6 or 7 or something so no.

    Edit:Ninjad
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    Encore does not prevent the usage of the Move function in a Triple Battle:

    Turn 1

    Started Battle with Dottekotsu, Elfoon and Gochim. Elfoon in the center.

    Elfoon used Light Screen
    Opponent Pokemon attack and KOs Gochim
    Dottekotsu used Drain Punch on the opponent

    Turn 2
    Elfoon use Encore of Dottekotsu who is trying to move to the Center.
    Dottekotsu moved to the center.



    Reset Move only occurs at the very end of turn and only if each side has 1 Pokemon left on opposite sides of the field:

    Opponent had 3 Pokemon (CPU trainer with a Oobemu, Gigigear, and Mamanbou)
    I had a Pachirisu on the far right, while they still had 3 Pokemon. No changes occured.

    Pachirisu use Discharge
    Gigigear and Mamanbou fainted
    Oobemu used Recover
    *Reset Move occurs*
  6. deluge

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    The opponent trapping effect of Mean Look can no longer be baton passed but what about the self-trapping (phaze-immunity) and HP recovering effect of Ingrain?
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    If two pokemon with weather-inducing abilities are sent out at the same time, does the slower pokemon still always get its weather?
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  9. thelaytonmobile

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    Bear in mind that if using Reshiram itself to test any of these, its ability should bypass Wonder Guard anyway.
  10. Smasher89

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    About pickup, something that needs to be tested is that if you can pickup the pinchberries (from the gamefreaktrainer) and keep it after the battle. I would test it if I had a strong pick uper which I don´t :/
  11. Niched

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    ^Does it matter competitively? For the record, I believe you can.

    Also:
    Items consumed before attacks are pickupable (Fling, Natural Gift, Gems)
    Items consumed during attacks are not (Knock off, Bug Bite, Pluck, Incinerate)
  12. DDRMaster

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    If there's an in-game trainer that has a Salac or Custap Berry then it would because as far as I know, you can't get those items in BW yet.
  13. Niched

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    Question: The item 'Metronome', which supposedly boosts power of moves used in succession. What does it boost them by?
  14. SupremeDirt

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    In Gen 4, it was 1.0, then 1.1, etc. until 2.0.
  15. Niched

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    Wait this was in gen 4? sorry, my bad. I've just never seen it used.
  16. SupremeDirt

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    Yet when you use Trick or Thief now, you don't keep the foe's hold item, iirc. Though that was reported pretty early, I believe.
  17. DDRMaster

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    Yeah I was just wondering if it would be different for Pick Up. It's probably the same but it's worth testing.
  18. Zebstrika

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    If Poison Hand gives a 20/25% chance to poison, then why is the chance to poison not 1-(the chance to poison with poison hand)*P? That would make it simple; if it didn't poison with poison hand, then other status effects could occur. What happens with something like Muk using Lick? Does that mean there is a 30% chance to paralyze after Poison Hand fails to poison?
    I am wondering how you could tell the difference between Poison Hand poisoning and Poison Jab, also, though it isn't important.
  19. Engineer Pikachu

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    Not sure if you meant this literally or metaphorically, but yes, this was in Gen 4.
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    It's not. You don't keep their item.

    I used Pick Up to get a Petaya Berry from a trainer but I didn't get to keep it.
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    You are correct, the formula i stated is wrong. It should be (1 - the chance to poison with poison hand)*P or probably (1 - 0.20)*P. I suppose i accidently choose the 30% chance stated in the OP instead of the rate i discovered myself. I will edit my original post right away.

    I could tell what was causing the poison as Poison Hand always shows an activation message. If the activation message didn't show i knew it was Poison Jab causing the poison.

    Boiling Water is not a contact move as such it won't activate Poison Hand, I assume you are refering to a move like Lick? But yes i assume that move has 30% chance to paralyze if Poison Hand fails to activate or if you incalculate Poison Hand it should have 24% chance to cause paralyze(if Poison Hand's activation rate is 20%)

    Edit: I'll test this when i get home, this might also be a good test to see if the poison rate is 20% or 25%(albeit which one is the most likely)
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    If something with encourage is using move such as level ground ice breath etc the effect is also negated and the power boost still apply
    can be tried with encourage kurimugan.
    Question does Brick break affected ? since level ground side efefct is negated i wonder if BB is negated too
  23. Zebstrika

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    Regular high critical hit rate does not get negated and boosted by Encourage, so I highly doubt Ice Breath gets a boost. Besides, all critical hits would be much stronger than no critical hits and an encourage boost, and I assume almost all, if not all pokemon that can learn Ice Breath can also learn Ice Beam, which gets a boost.
    Or you mean Icy Wind, in which case I don't know.
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    Yes. Victini with a Balloon was able to switch out against an Arena Trap Diglett.
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    Plus/Minus mechanics:
    - Gives 50% special attack boost to all allies with the ability Plus or Minus (even faraway allies)
    - Boosts do not stack in triples (the largest boost you can get is 1.5x, even if the other two Pokemon both have Plus or Minus)

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