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B&W Research Thread

Discussion in 'BW Competitive Discussion' started by ΩDonut, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. Chieliee

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    Not sure, but I don't think so. I think Mummy activates right on contact, so before the Desukan faints. That would mean that Zuruzukin lost Moxie before the Desukan faints. So I think it doesn't get the boost.
  2. Carrotfoot64

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    I am uncertain if it has been thrown up in the air yet, but does Scald still burn pokemon that have water absorb?
  3. IcyMan28

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    Water Absorb pokemon are not affected by the attack at all, so no.
  4. coyotte508

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    Mummy doesn't activate when koed. Also mummy activates after being hit, so roobushin will get the boost from guts.
  5. StarmanXL

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    EDIT: Meant to post this in the Simple Question Simple Answer thread
  6. TorchicBlaziken

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    But sometimes it gets things wrong, which is what this thread is for.
  7. Team Rocket Elite

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    Mummy will overwrite Moxie before Moxie activates.

    This is tested in game:

    Krookodile uses Crunch on Cofagrigus. It does enough damage to KO Cofagrigus.
    Mummy activates and changes Krookodile's Moxie to Mummy.
    Cofagrigus faints.
    Krookodile does NOT get any boost.
  8. KokoaKiwi

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    I'm pretty sure I posted this exact same example some pages ago, so I'll just second you.
  9. coyotte508

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    Behaves differently for me (video).

    Are you using an english patched version, or does it behave differently in trainer battles?
  10. KokoaKiwi

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    Im using an imported copy of pokemon black. OHKO'd Cofagrigus with critical hit crunch, mummy activates, overwrites my moxie. It dies, I get no attack boost.
    I soft reset and proceed to spam earthquakes, kill it, and get my boost.

    edit: I've only tested it with my Crookodile against Cofagrigus in the Pokemon League.
  11. coyotte508

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    Well the games will be out soon (ROMs already are!) so we'll be able to test more smoothly!

    Though, can you test it in the Darmanitan cave entrance to see if you have the same result as me? If not, either copy has a problem, if yes, Pokemon Black & White really behaves oddly on this.
  12. Team Rocket Elite

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    Mummy does not activate if the Pokemon with Mummy is the last Pokemon on the team and it faints. Moxie will still active when KOing the last Pokemon on the opponent team. I'm using an imported official Japanese Pokemon Black so there are no patches that could interfere with things.

    Edit: I tried another test against an in game trainer with Cofagrigus. I kept using Roar on it until Cofagrigus was the last Pokemon remaining on their team. I KO'd it with Krookodile using Crunch. Mummy did not active, Moxie did.
  13. Human

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    Thank you very much for the testing! When I was testing Desukan as a TR user for VGC this glitch has been giving me some trouble. Knowing that it isn't an actual game mechanic is very good to know.
  14. Xazel

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    Okay, so I'm new here, but I read up on the rules a bit and went over the OP. I noticed that it said how experience gain works hasn't been confirmed yet, so I was wondering if anyone has actually been working on it yet?

    I've just started looking into it a few days ago, and I've begun collecting data for it, so I'd like to know if anyone has seen anything work yet, or if anyone would like to work with me to figure it out. Please and thanks.
  15. Judas DN

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    Well it appears that there are conflicting results regarding the Expierence formula. Chieliee made a formula, however according to CPU this doesn't seem to be correct all the time.
  16. Mario With Lasers

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    Does the Encourage + Life Orb / Red Card / Switch Button / Shell Bell mechanic still work in US/EU versions (oh god please say yes)?
  17. Missingno. Master

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    I have no idea, but I don't see why it wouldn't.
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    Some people think it's a glitch, and the International versions have a tendency to fix such glitches (and then other times we wind up with Acid Rain so)
  19. Xazel

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    I've arrived at the same conclusion after some number crunching and various trials of Minezumi and Yooterii vs wild Pokemon around Routes 1 and 2. The actual vs experimental results usually differ from 1 to 4 exp points for me.

    I'm actually trying to come up with some alternate formulas that are a little different, because it seems that the error gets bigger as the level becomes larger, or something like that.

    Thanks for your input!
  20. Chieliee

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    I didn't make the formula. I saw it on Bulbapedia, and decided to test it. For me, it always worked. Maybe it has something to do with ROMs and patches and stuff. I have an English V7 patched Black ROM.
  21. Forsety

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    Couldn't find anything on this matter but...

    Power/Guard Share does anyone know if the effects can be Baton Passed off? If they can how do they effect the recipient?
  22. Zebstrika

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    Speaking of that, was the Sky Drop glitch fixed?
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    Ok, this may sound like a stupid question, but why is Synchronoise so... bad?

    It must have some sort of advantage to using psychic, right?

    Does it deal SE damage on same-types or something?
  24. R_N

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    I think the real usage comes from the dual type and non-psychic users....in double/triple battles
  25. Sprocket

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    Bout all I can think of. Which includes the following Pokemon evolution families that are not pure Psychic:

    Hoothoot, Whismur, Kecleon, Chatot, Sigilyph, Psyduck, Eevee (except Umbreon).

    Actually Psyduck could use Soak to change his opponent to Water type, then follow up with Synchronoise. It would be an interesting tactic, but a very gimmicky one.

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