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Bad Character Mafia Postgame

Discussion in 'Circus Maximus' started by Thorns, Feb 21, 2010.

  1. Thorns


    Feb 17, 2007
    This is the postgame for Bad Character Mafia. This was my first time hosting a proper game by myself. I'd like to thank Hobo Joe and Dubulous for helping out a bit with the roles too (and evan I suppose). There were some hiccups, but overall I think I hosted this game pretty well. I had a lot of fun hosting (especially towards the end), and I hope you had fun playing! I'll basically post the role PM of a player and then write some comments about the role and how it was played. These are the spreadsheets that I used to keep track of the game and keep organised.

    Role spreadsheet
    Actions spreadsheet

    Appalling Characters
    The Appalling Characters were the village. There were complaints about them being weak (indeed, I nerfed many roles) but you'll find that no faction was particularly strong. They had Altair, who could kill someone during the day by using up one Throwing Knife, which was agreed by me and Earthworm balanced the village. They also had two ways to make contact through the Neville Flynn/John Watson and Lincoln Burrows/Michael Scofield relationship.

    Igor - Killed Night 4
    If Michael Scofield died, Lincoln would lose his bodyguard powers. This bodyguard was weaker compared to Macbeth, who could also protect himself. However, since the village had many important users to protect, it didn't really matter. Igor protected FinnRagetti Night 1, which was confusing, since Altair was the obvious target. This potentially cost them the game, but Igor made some wise bodyguard choices for the rest of the game, protecting Kannon on the night he distracted Coronis, which saved him for another day! Whilst losing his powers upon Michael's death was a nerf, the 'link' of the brothers being able to find each other was a way to get organised more quickly. This was the link I think I should have removed, though. Igor was killed by Da Letter El.

    zerowing/Kannon - Godkilled Day 4
    Piplup was the highest priority night role in the game, save the use of the Falchion or Defence Attorney Badge. Kannon blocked one of Coronis' kills Night 3. zerowing idled the first few nights, which would have ultimately been the better decision. He was suspected of being mafia for some reason, it might have been because of his unwillingness to claim to a cleaned villager early on. Piplup was one of the two villagers that started with a Throwing Knife. In games where the vigilante uses up an item to kill, the item is usually held by a village member. I decided to give two to village members and another to a mafia member to get rid of the 'he has the item, so he's clean' mentality. Kannon died when Coronis persuaded him to post, but didn't post before the deadline (I even gave a 3 hour grace period!).

    KnightoftheWind - Killed Night 5
    If Watson targeted the same user as him, he would receive alliance as well the usual role/role name. People thought that this made the village inspector extremely weak, but it must be considered that they could find each other early and gather claims. KnightoftheWind played a solid game as inspector, but as Finn's right hand man, he should have spoken up when some bad decisions were made. Notable inspects included the Night 0 inspect on Mekkah. After finding out, Mekkah decided not to false claim the Pokemon Stadium Announcer (who I hate but that's not the point). KnightoftheWind also hit jumpluff Night 3, but her use of the Falchion blocked that. He finally died when Coronis took him out.

    Veedrock - Killed Night 2
    Standard thief, not much to say about the role. Veedrock was a pretty successful thief. He nabbed a Throwing Knife from Da Letter El Night 0, and would have taken jumpluff's Falchion Night 1 if she hadn't used her Jesus Beams on him. He attempted to take THE_IRON_KENYAN's Defence Attorney Badge (probably the most powerful item in the game) Night 2, but not only did he use it that night, he was killed that night by Jimbo. By the way, I really, really hate Jar Jar Binks, and I hope Veedrock could feel the intense hate!

    Yeti - Endgamed
    Sarah Palin is terrible, and as such, her vote was actually worth zero. I think the hint may have been too subtle, but oh well! Contrary to what some people believe, this was not a role to screw up the village, but a role meant to be used for intimidation or drawing a kill. The Whisperweeds were not put to the use I expected, but spamming random stuff is fun anyway. Yeti made some solid decisions when lynching, and was able to establish Finn as the village leader. Some people may have been angry that I lied about her role, but in mafia you can't trust anybody, not even the host!

    Altair - Killed Night 1
    Altair was the vigilante, the balancing factor for the village. Altair could hold multiple items instead of just one - and this was not limited to Throwing Knives. There were a total of three knives in the game, and one item that would make a person completely immune to Altair's knives (though if Altair attempted to kill them, a knife would not be used up) - RB Golbat's Hidden Blade. Altair claimed very early on, which ultimately turned out to be a mistake - the Useless Characters disposed of him thanks to Mekkah's knowledge of who Igor was protecting. If Altair was given the Spartan Laser during the day, that would be two guaranteed kills as long as he had the knives, since his kills were performed in the day, and unblockable. The knowledge of Altair's existence created panic in the ranks for the Useless Characters - but luckily Mekkah was able to stop that.

    FinnRagetti - Killed Night 3
    Watson was the second half of the inspector. People expected KnightoftheWind to be Sherlock Holmes, but he turned out to be Neville Flynn! There's no way I could find Sherlock Holmes an Appalling Character. The man of the spaghetti played a good game as the village leader, and very well for a relatively new player. However, he was too trusting of some people, such as Mekkah, jumpluff and Coronis (nearly). He entrusted KnightoftheWind and askaninjask as his second-in-commands - good choices in the end. Finn made some good hits - he cleared katya/Nook as a villager, established evan as a fairly harmless neutral, but when he tried to "clear" jumpluff, she decided that it would be time for him to be eliminated. I was impressed with his play, though there were some things that could be fixed! Finn was the target of evan's posting restriction (imposed after he died), which forced him to post by first putting his post through translationparty.com. This yielded pretty funny results.

    katya/Nook - Killed Night 2
    askaninjask - Endgamed
    UncleSam - Endgamed
    These three were vanillagers. I was told to publicise the PM, but katya started with a Throwing Knife, and I thought that this would make it a bit too easy for the mafia. katya/Nook didn't do much other than die early on and receive zerowing's claim. Their best action in the game was probably being killed by Coronis - better a vanillager than an inspector! askaninjask played a typically solid game, lynching the correct people and nearly pulling off a win Day 7. He also did a good job of assisting in managing the village after Finn's death. UncleSam played well for a newcomer, making some good observations and decisions. Unfortunately, his experience of this game was limited since he didn't use IRC to communicate with the rest of the players.

    Fishy - Killed Night 5
    Fishy, when killed, negated Igor's bodyguard powers. In doing this, they could also establish a link with each other, and possibly clear each other quicker than they would have otherwise. The Spartan Laser guaranteed that Igor had multiple chances to protect someone. It could also be passed off to one of the inspectors, or even Altair. I nerfed it with the day silencing simply because a BPV by itself is rather powerful, too much so in my opinion. Then again, most of the roles in this game were weak. Fishy was the target of evan's posting restriction. Unfortunately, she only ever made one video post, and we could not open her audio post! Nothing would be gained from making a video post, unlike what evan claimed. Fishy did a good enough job, avoiding being killed for quite a long time. Future bodyguards would do well to imitate her!

    Poorly Designed Characters
    The Poorly Designed Characters were one mafia, and they were the more hard-hitting mafia designed for hitting the village's important roles, whereas the Useless Characters were more of a sneaky mafia, though this probably wasn't as obvious like in Elements Mafia, given the overall weaker nature of this mafia. They consisted of Umbreon Dan, Coronis, moot and Da Letter El. They got off to a bad start, and had a chance to catch up near the end, but the village and the Useless Characters (still bitter that the Poorly Designed Characters did not cooperate early on) prevented that.

    Umbreon Dan - Lynched Day 3
    Umbreon Dan was an okay thief. He stole a Throwing Knife Night 1, and nearly got Fishy's Spartan Laser Night 2, but unfortunately she had passed it to Igor by then. He used an okay false claim, but his team was iffy on claiming Appalling Characters, and was lynched when he did not 'win' due to his 'Miracle Eye', even though many more items existed in the game. His false claim was basically designed to gain more information about the items stealable in the game. Umbreon Dan was also the most powerful killer on the team, being able to specify how he wanted a user to die. Unfortunately, this was not put to good use, and Da Letter El did the killing.

    Coronis - Killed Night 6
    Coronis' second game had him as a mafia silencer/persuader. The silence was nerfed, being able to only work on male humans, but Coronis found out that jumpluff was not actually Elliot Reid, but Joshua, since she was silenced. His persuading killed Kannon, but that was its only real use. Coronis got some handy silences on Mekkah and askaninjask, however. He didn't do too poorly, but an average false claim plus a bit of laziness and/or poor judgement lead to some poor kills, like the one on Nook. Being outed early meant that he shouldn't have been killing, and as a result he was distracted by Kannon (though he did get a godkill out of it, he didn't hit his intended target, which would have taken out KnightoftheWind).

    moot - Lynched Day 2
    moot had a solid false claim as the village mind reader, but for some reason, he was lynched. I'm not really sure why he was lynched, but he was a bit lazy. He was hooked by Mekkah Night 0, which prevented his mind read on him, therefore preventing knowledge of Mekkah being successfully silenced and evan's posting restriction placed on him. Like the other Poorly Designed Characters, he was a bit inactive early on, due to laziness or real life issues, I don't really know. He did make a good choice in targeting Mekkah Night 0, however, since the big name in mafia was obviously going to be targeted by many users.

    Da Letter El - Lynched Day 6
    Da Letter El could protect anybody, including himself. He protected himself on Night 0 to throw off any potential trackers/watchers. I am not entirely sure on the usefulness of such a strategy, but different strokes for different blokes I guess. He protected himself every other night except for Night 1, where he guarded moot. Da Letter El decided to be the killer for the Poorly Designed Characters, since his kill flavour was fairly plain (slashing them with a sword, nothing too different). His Throwing Knife was taken by Veedrock Night 0. Da Letter El claimed bodyguard that died if he got a successful protect, which was an okay claim, but he was lynched after suspicious activity. He did communicate with the Useless Characters later in the game, and got his act together as well. He did well despite his bad circumstances.

    Useless Characters
    The Useless Characters were the other mafia in this game, and they had different roles. Their silencer, unlike Kurosawa, had freedom of choice for silencing. Their roles were focused on saving their own skins and playing securely, unlike the Poorly Designed Characters. I mostly gave out the roles as I did for the humour, since I knew Mekkah agreed that Jagen sucked, and that jumpluff would try very hard to not false claim the character she was given. The Useless Characters won this game, and I think they probably played best out of all the factions, due to Mekkah's early moling, which put them in the information lead, and the other three's ability to fly under the radar.

    Mekkah - Killed Night 1
    When jumpluff and Accent found out that Mekkah was Jagen, much hilarity ensued in their mafia channel. To their surprise, he turned out to be a hooker, not a bodyguard (seriously, Jagen protect someone with his stats?). Mekkah's hooking ability was the third highest priority ability in the game, and the second that could be used on a regular basis. Mekkah got a lucky roleblock on moot Night 0, stopping the Poorly Designed Characters on finding the interesting PM I sent to him during that night regarding his silence and posting restriction. Mekkah did some great strategytalking after his death, and moling the village early on proved to eventually earn the victory for his team.

    Jimbo - Killed Night 6
    Jimbo's silencing ability wasn't restricted like Coronis' was. Jimbo made a good choice to not silence early on, which would alert the village to the existence of a second silencer. However, he used his power effectively late game. Despite Accent having the flavour kill, Jimbo was chosen to kill because of his relatively unsuspicious killing method, as opposed to jumpluff's or Mekkah's. Jimbo played a good game, but it wasn't until jumpluff was lynched that he proved that he wasn't just blindly following orders, and he and Accent finished the game in spectacular fashion. He false claimed Tails, who could destroy items and make a more powerful item if he destroyed enough. Jimbo was killed by Coronis after he realised that to win, he would have to kill a Useless Character and not have one of them kill him, but unfortunately for Coronis, that never happened and they ended up killing each other.

    Accent/blue_light - Endgamed
    Accent/blue_light held the sole watcher/tracker ability in the game, and they didn't do too spectacularly with it. However, Accent was able to determine that Da Letter El was a Poorly Designed Character and Mekkah's killer Night 1 after noting that he was the only one to target Mekkah during that night. For the remainder of the game, they mostly watched themselves, only tracking RB Golbat to see if he was the wolf, and Da Letter El to find out if the village knew he was mafia. blue_light was subbed in for the last cycle after Accent could not get on due to real life issues. blue_light won the game with his lynch after RB Golbat had a change of heart.

    jumpluff - Lynched Day 4
    jumpluff's Jesus Beams and Falchion were the only things not making her a generic mafia thug, but she had three safeclaims and one false role PM for use. jumpluff played a good game, narrowly avoiding being found out by KnightoftheWind through use of the Falchion, and flying under the radar for the most part. She made a decent false claim in Elliot Reid, who could make herself immune from every role for one night. jumpluff nearly acquired the village spreadsheet, but luckily Finn was tight with who he shared the spreadsheet with. She quickly gained the trust of the village and contributed well to the success of the Useless Characters in this game. She used her Jesus Beams once, blocking Veedrock from stealing her Falchion and Jimbo acquired his Throwing Knife in the process.

    THE_IRON_KENYAN - Lynched Day 5
    If anybody targeted THE_IRON_KENYAN, they would be silenced the following day, and die at the end of that day, and he would then gain a killing power and whatever role was used on him, and have his win condition changed to 'You win if you are the last user alive, or if nothing can prevent the same.' The highest priority role would be absorbed if multiple roles targeted him. Sadly, nobody ever did, which is surprising, since I gave this role to TIK because he had a tendency to get targeted a lot in the night. He could have used his Defence Attorney Badge to turn wolf Night 0, but instead he used it to get in with the village, which ironically stopped Veedrock from targeting him. All in all, THE_IRON_KENYAN played an okay game, but could have made some better decisions.

    RB Golbat - Endgamed
    The Hidden Blade made RB Golbat immune to Altair's kills, which would be a great item for the mafias, which is why RB Golbat did not reveal that he had this item ever. RB Golbat picked Pride, Lust and Gluttony for his Deadly Sins, which gave him mayor, hooker and disrupter respectively. He played a good game, but was the subject of a lot of discussion early game due to his suspicious claim and was suspected of being wolf by the Useless Characters and Appalling Characters. He used his roles to ensure his survival in general, which is what I would have done. Below is a list of the Sins and what they did.
    Envy - role check
    Gluttony - disrupt (makes him immune to night actions that receive information by targeting him, like inspector, watcher, tracker.)
    Greed - thief
    Lust - hooker
    Pride - mayor
    Sloth - one time safeguard that was activated, not passive
    Wrath - silencer
    The best set of roles was probably Envy, Greed and Wrath, but RB Golbat just picked Lust because it was obviously a hooker role, Pride because it was in his camp slogan, and Gluttony as a crapshoot. I might get some flak for making a role that basically decided who won (and indeed, he made the choice to let the Useless Characters, who had been playing great all game to win), but I definitely liked this role.

    evan - Won Night 3
    Ah, evan. Probably the biggest troll of this game (it was a troll role, but he performed it masterfully). evan forced Mekkah to ask for claims in all his posts, which stood in clear contradiction to his article about leading the village, which a lot of people noted. However, this ended up winning the game later for the Useless Characters! He also forced Fishy to post in audio/video only, which she did a grand total of once. jumpluff was slapped with an art-only restriction, and FinnRagetti had to put all his posts through translationparty.com before posting them. He could target dead users, and was able to restrict even after he won for fun, but the one time he did that, the game was more or less decided. Gamewise, evan successfully avoided being killed or hooked for four nights, which was basically how he won. This was an easy role to win with, but again, it was a troll role and not meant to be taken seriously.

    Most Valuable Appalling Character - FinnRagetti
    Most Valuable Poorly Designed Character - Da Letter El
    Most Valuable Useless Character - Mekkah
    Best Newcomer - Yeti
    Best False Claim - jumpluff
    Most Indecisive - KnightoftheWind
    Serial Killer - Coronis
    Best Host - Thorns
    Best 'Cohost' - Dubulous
    Best User Not Playing - Fishin

    That's Bad Character Mafia! I had a lot of fun hosting, I hope you had a lot of fun playing! The next mafia on my agenda is probably Silly Hat Mafia, see you there?
  2. Dubulous

    Dubulous I look just like Buddy Holly.
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    Jun 9, 2009
    i got zero pms how come
  3. jumpluff

    jumpluff じゃまた!
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    Aug 22, 2008
    thanks for the award, and for hosting the game ^_^ i had fun playing though not fun after when everyone was raging! good postgame, too, though i presented some evidence on IRC that pointed to some contradictions!
  4. FinnRagetti


    Jun 15, 2008
    First of all: Thank you very much for the award. I definitely made some good and bad plays throughout this game and I definitely enjoyed it alot.

    To clarify a few things. I lynched moot because I just felt that his role was fake. I had too many delays during the Day 2 lynch (primarily dealing with zerowing) but in the end I just felt that he was mafia and I lynched him.

    I still disagree with the ambiguousness within Yeti's role. I feel that she should have clearly know that her vote counted for nothing, but it is too late for that to happen now, so I will not fight it. (Although my Day 5 unmayoring idea is still good)

    I do think that Yeti did a great job decivieng everyone(hiding her "mayor" role from everyone. She masterfully tricked the majority of us and I felt that she did an amazing job stepping up after my death. She definitely deserves that award. Jumpluff had the best falseclaim, but Yeti almost won the game with her "mayor" powers.

    As for TIK, I was seriously trying to target him to activate his powers. He claimed that it gave him powers whenever he was targeted by the mafia, which I almost had Veedrock steal the badge from him to activate the powers. I'm sad that it never got to happen, for it could have help eliminate the mafia for the village or vice versa.

    That's all I have right now. I do send props to Mekkah and jumpluff for doing extremely well moling me and I defintely hope that we work together in the future (for real though, not allowing you to mole me again).
  5. Da Letter El

    Da Letter El Officially internet famous
    is a Forum Moderator
    Circus Maximus Leader

    Mar 28, 2008
    I could have won this; coronis needed to persuade rbg the day i was being lynched to vote for jimbo but he persuaded aska instead, and even when he didnt we still had a shot. i missed deadline be 15 minutes that day because of real life shit at a debate tournament, so im kinda bummed about that. Anyway, we never would have predicted that yeti wouldnt get a vote so that threw plans for a loop. I had planned to kill rbg that night with coronis and then silence one of the useless, which would rid the useless of a hooker + mayor as well as hurt rbg for siding against me which pissed me off. But nah, coronis had it set in his mind that he would win if he survived and killed jimbo, so meh.

    I hate all games where I am bg and this was no exception.
  6. Hobo Joe

    Hobo Joe

    Jul 28, 2007
    Thanks for the props...and also keeping the Xenomorph concept in the game. Too bad that TIK didn't get targeted for the role to be used fully.

    Wait...where's the Custard hooker? Just kidding, good job to the players, you and Dubulous.
  7. Mekkah

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    Feb 8, 2005
    I really need to instate some kind of Lady Platina alt for mafia so I don't get targeted with a kill, a silence and a posting restriction all in two nights.

    That was because I ordered him to after talking it over with Finn and the team. We wanted to get rid of Altair so I would have even more control over who does what.

    That was an annoying night. We knew he was doing that, but couldn't stop it without being very suspicious. We wanted to use Falchion to stop it, but the flavor was too obvious...the Jesus Beams flavor fitted (fat? heh) pluff's false claim very well though so we just used that.

    We didn't really use Accent's kill much because fsr we were under the impression he couldn't change kill flavor and use watch/track on the same night, but apparently that was a misunderstanding. Jimbo making people suicide did quite fine, though. Speaking of Jimbo, obviously it was a team's decision to idle the silence until later, not his :P

    Anyway, I'm glad RBG went with us in the end, though I've never heard his exact reasoning. The other mafia just seemed very lazy...for the first half of the game they ignored anonymous orders on who to kill, and for the second half they were pretty much out to get us, never mind Coronis' obnoxious bragging which in combination with all the luckfucking kind of made it frustrating. But I had a lot of fun in this team and I was surprised (in a positive way) with Jimbo's great PR'ing in the final stages when he was pretty much on his own.

    (this post might sound a bit obnoxious but it isn't)

    Also, thanks to Thorns for hosting.
  8. Jimbo

    Jimbo take me anywhere
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    Sep 30, 2007
    I'm glad I got to play my part and pull my own very large weight near the end of the game. In the beginning I was really busy and I couldn't get completely into it.

    Planning things with RB was fun -- I was actually unaware that he planned to backstab us. RB you jerk. Anyway, I think our team (even excluding myself) did fantastic. Moling the village twice and having Accent be suspicious for so long and not get lynched was great. The only thing I would've asked for is a BG since we had a good few "high profile" people on our team, as evidenced by Mekkah getting namekilled.

    Great game!


    I've learned, goat sensei.
  9. Accent


    Jul 8, 2009
    Thanks for hosting the game Thorns, congrats to the Useless characters :)
  10. Raverist


    Apr 27, 2008
    This was hilarious to watch, though potentially any mafia could have used Chris Thorndyke as a fake claim.
  11. UncleSam

    UncleSam Leading this village
    is a Forum Moderator

    May 12, 2009
    It looks to me like two things doomed the village: Altair dying N1, and Kannon getting godkilled. At the same time, the more I understand what actually happened the more I realize just how much the village got outplayed in this game. Good job Useless, and sorry Village I was so disconnected nearly the whole game.
  12. Yeti

    Yeti queen of unclesam's village
    is a Community Contributor

    May 8, 2009
    It sucked katya/zerowing got subbed out unfairly.. katya and I only joined to play with each other so once she was gone I sort of lost interest for most of the middle game.

    Village WOULD have won... Useless didn't know I was 'mayor' and I planned it so we had 4 votes to 3 even if RBG voted with blue_light. BUT since my role had 0 votes.... didn't work out that way.

    This was my first game so maybe I'm not distributing these right but..
    Village had 9 votes off the bat - BPV item left us with a 0 voter and I had 0 votes.
    Mafia + neutrals had 10 votes.
    RBG gets mayor ability and now mafia + neutrals get 11 votes.
    Both mafias have a silencing ability.. if they target different users and not the two villagers who already have 0 votes, village has 7 votes.
    7 votes to 11 with no kills if every mafia/neutral votes against the village is sort of messed up imo.

    I should have at least had 1 vote or been better informed. That or RBG should NOT have had access to a mayor ability if the village did not have a real mayor OR a silencer AND a 0-vote item.
    He also should have had to win with a specific faction he selected or something so he couldn't decide spur of the moment.

    Also.... RBG originally voted blue_light. aska had voted as well and as I had no vote, that was 3-2 or 4-1 depending on if UncleSam voted for blue_light as well (no reason why he wouldn't) but Thorns wouldn't call majority for some reason. RBG changed his vote and we got jewed hardcore.

    I told Coronis to kill Jimbo, thinking we would win if 2 mafia died because we would have majority and both silencers were removed. RBG wasn't supposed to be much trouble because I counteracted him.
    It screwed up my endgame plan entirely that I didn't have 2 or even 1 votes. Had I had a clue this might happen (that hint implied to me I might have a bonus because I had to 'watch out', not that I would have a completely useless role) I would have false claimed a much more powerful role to purposefully draw mafia fire onto myself and leave 3 vote-capable villagers alive so we could tie at best and still win.
    Giving a first-time player a false role and no obvious notion it might be fake was unneeded imo. It should have been more evident for me I didn't have 2 votes.. I read over a few postgames and didn't notice a fake role like this in any of them so that was sort of like 'cool'.

    I don't see where jumpluff moled the village truly successfully - she was a suspect the entire time in case the Useless didn't know. Only Mekkah really got in.

    It sort of sucked because the night I got spreadsheet access, Finn died and it made me look mafia because the village got messed. Luckily KoTW inspected me so I was clean again.

    I still wish village could've won or I could've played out the end differently but gg to the Useless who worked hard for their win.

    gd I tried to lynch Coronis every gd day and it never happened. Imagine how much better off we'd have been if I'd lynched him d1 8|

    I felt it was really too bad TIK never got activated - it would have helped us a lot if there'd been a third killer hitting mafia members. Of course they could have hit the village as well, but considering we were outnumbered for a good chunk of the last few cycles it would've been more likely a wolf would have hit mafia.

    Thanks for the award though and it was a p fun game, excluding the katya/zerowing mess and my role being a dud. Thanks for hosting Thorns.
  13. FinnRagetti


    Jun 15, 2008
    Jumpluff already had Mekkah's info, so she was able to fill in the last pieces from convos with me. Jumpluff did a good job, but I still always suspected her ever since about late day 2. I learned a ton from this, my best played mafia so far (out of 3 games). The first, I made a bad false claim, the second I gave Eo the spreadsheet from macle in MC mafia (which he died afterwards, which I'm noticing a trend in that). I definitely will keep the spreadsheets to confirmed villys for now on (and not be stupid again. lol)

    Also the village was not really overpowered. I knew 8-9 confirmed villagers by day 2 and then afterwards I could figure out the rest, thanks to odd false claims (Coronis/U_dan) and just seemed too cunning for village (jumpluff). I actually thought TIK was mafia, so I was going to test Veedrock's innocence by targeting TIK, but too bad he died, so I couldnt see how that would turn out. I loved this game and I hope to do well again in the future.

    Edit: I wished that Kannon had not been godkilled. When that happened, I knew the village was in trouble. We needed the martyr and extra user to help out. We could have won with him, but it's too late for that now as well as the "mayor" issue in the endgame

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