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Bagon (Update)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by TrollFreak, May 25, 2012.

  1. TrollFreak

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    Bagon

    Awww, its so cute isn't it :3

    [Overview]

    <p>When it comes to underrated Pokemon in the Little Cup metagame, Bagon is
    one Pokemon that instantly comes to mind. While it is a Dragon-type Pokemon, which is a rarity in the tier (they are only 5 legal Dragon-type Pokemon in Little Cup), Bagon is by far the most overlooked. While most Dragon-type Pokemon tend to be Dragon Dancers or just powerful physical attacking Pokemon in general, this isn't the case for Bagon. While it does have a decent base Attack stat of 75, offensively, Bagon is outclassed. This is because its two main competitors, Dratini and Axew, have better coverage and a much higher Attack stat, respectively. Nevertheless, Bagon has a niche over its Dragon-type counterparts by gaining access to a move many Little Cup Pokemon wish they had, Wish. Thanks to Wish, Bagon becomes a durable Pokemon capable of tanking the hardest of physical attacks in the LC tier. However, it isn't all great for Bagon. Because Dragon-type Pokemon sport resistances to a lot of usually specially orientated attacks, such as Water and Fire, its low base Special Defense doesn't help when trying to tank attacks from the special side. Nevertheless, Bagon is a good Pokemon if you need something to heal your team and tank hard physical hits, but don't expect it to do too much.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Wish
    move 2: Dragon Claw
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Protect / Toxic
    item: Evoilte
    ability: Rock Head
    nature: Relaxed
    evs: 236 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Bagon's only viable set in LC, and just like its evolved form Salamence in OU, this set is used to not only heal itself and its team with Wish, butto tank attacks as well. While it doesn't have the biggest HP stat to pass Wishes with, its typing gives it useful resistances to common offensive types such as Fire, Water, Grass, and Electric, which gives it its niche. Dragon Claw is used for damage purposes, as well as to prevent Bagon from becoming Taunt bait. Fire Blast hits Steels, mainly Magnemite and Ferroseed, that will try to use Bagon as setup bait. Protect is used to ensureBagon gets the revocery from Wish, and it also works with Toxic Spikes as it stalls out poison as well. However, if you aren't concerned about getting guaranteed recovery from Wish, Toxic can be used over Protect, as it breaks down Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Hippopotas, Murkrow, and others.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>With maximum HP investment plus the maximuminvestment Bagon can have with a Relaxed nature, Bagon has as much physical bulk as possible.
    Bagon can 2HKO Magnemite and it even has the chance to OHKO Ferroseed with 36 Special Attack EVs. After the aforementioned 36 SpA EVs are used to deal with Magnomite and Ferroseed, the remaining EVs go into SpD, as that is the only place where those EVs have any use. Using an Eviolite on this defensive set makes sense, as it boosts both Bagon's Defense and Special Defense.</p>

    <p>Roar can be used in the last slot as it works like Dragon Tail: phazes out Pokemon and racks up entry hazard damage. Other attacks such as Zen Headbutt, Crunch, Rock Slide,
    and Brick Break can be used over Fire Blast for a Wish passer that can deal with certain threats. Zen Headbutt can deal with Mienfoo and Croagunk. Crunch is for Misdrevus and other Ghosts and Psychics. Rock Slide is for the Larvesta, while Brick Break is for Pawniard and Scraggy. If you decide to use one of those attacks over Fire Blast, make sure to move those Special Attack EVs into Attack.</p>

    <p>Teammates for Bagon should do two things: provide entry hazards to spread damage or status, and enjoy the Wish support Bagon can provide. Pokemon such as Omanyte, Dwebble, Ferroseed, and Pineco all love Bagon, as they can set up Spikes, and Pineco can even Rapid Spin, which is extra helpful. Dewbble, Omanyte, Pineco, and Lileep can all set up Stealth Rock as well, while Omanyte, Trubbish, and Tentacool all set up Toxic Spikes. Pokemon that can keep those hazards on the field are useful partners as well. Misdreavus is a great example, as it can block Rapid Spin, andloves the Wishes. Magnemite is another great teammate, as it traps Steels if Bagon isn't running Fire Blast.</p>

    <p>While you might still have doubts about Bagon's ability to tank common physical attacks in the LC metagame, below are calculations that show just how sturdy Bagon is:</p>

    <ul class="damage_calculation">
    <li>236 Atk+ Drilbur Earthquake vs. 236/196+ Bagon
    54.54 - 68.18%</li>
    <li>236 Atk Scraggy Hi Jump Kick vs. 236/196+ Bagon
    45.45 - 59.09%</li>
    <li>236 Atk Scraggy Drain Punch vs. 236/196+ Bagon
    31.81 - 40.9%</li>
    <li>236 Atk Scraggy Crunch vs. 236/196+ Bagon
    31.81 - 40.9%</li>
    <li>236 Atk+
    Mienfoo Hi Jump Kick vs. 236/196+ Bagon 54.54 - 68.18%</li>
    <li>156 Atk
    Mienfoo Hi Jump Kick vs. 236/196+ Bagon 45.45 - 59.09%</li>
    <li>20 Atk
    Hippopotas Earthquake vs. 236/196+ Bagon 31.81 - 40.9%</li>
    <li>212 Atk
    + Tirtouga Stone Edge vs. 236/196+ Bagon 40.9 - 54.54%</li>
    </ul>

    [Other Options]

    <p>While it has other offensive options, Bagon is usually better off not using them. Part of this is because by using offensive sets, it takes away from Bagon's usable bulk. Nevertheless, if you choose to use Bagon offensively, Dragon Dance or Hone Claws with Dragon Rush can work. However, Dratini and Axew make better Dragon Dancers. A Choice Band set can also work with Outrage, Dragon Claw, Fire Blast, and another coverage move, though Axew makes the better Choice Band user due to better Attack and Mold Breaker.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>While Bagon is good at tanking physical attacks, without Roar, it can't stop Pokemon from setting up on it. Scarggy can set up for days unless Bagon has Brick Break. Shellder and Clamperl can set up a Shell Smash on it and begin to cause problems. In general, anything that can tank an attack from Bagon can set up on it pretty easily. Misdreavus can just burn it with Will-O-Wisp, making its physical attacks useless, while Hippopotas can easily Roar Bagon out, which screws up the Pokemon that Bagon passes its Wishes too. Ice Beam Staryu can take hits and also Rapid Spin away hazards, which Bagon hates.</p>
  2. blarajan

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    It's not the greatest physical wall, but it tanks hits well enough, and has good special resistances to make this a good wish passer.

    You implemented my changes, QC 1/2.
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    Honestly I don't think Bagon's DD set is that bad. It is the best at using Restalk DD, because it is bulkier than Dratini (and Axew doesn't get Sleep Talk). That set is pretty good and gets a lot of opportunities to set up, on every fire/water/grass pokemon pretty much, and weaker physical attackers. It also doesn't have to worry about Will-O-Wisp/Scald/other status. But idk, your call
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    I've never actually seen RestTalk DD Bagon. Can I see logs of that working? I've legitimately never seen it before ever--to the point that I didn't even consider it.
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    Quality Control Approved (2/2)

    Wait for stuff on the RestDD set though.
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    Just a small thing:(From Checks and Counters)
    I think you meant Hippopotas
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    I've only really played against it, so idk. I'll test it out eventually, but for now I guess this analysis should just be written as is. If the set works well it can be added at a later time.
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    Ok, thanks guys, will write soon
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    bagon has better physical coverage options than dratini and axew(*fire fang*, rock slide, crunch etc) for a DD set and a higher attack than dratini. I cant defend it much otherwise though.
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    It's been a month. Write this up. We need these things finished so with BW2, we can update the updates >.<.
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    yo this analysis is cheese

    edit: apparently it's still happening?!
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    Sorry for the wait, but this is ready for GP

    QC members, before this is finished, I will add in the calcs, when it isn't 2 AM at night
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    [Overview]

    <p>When it comes to underrated Pokemon in the Little Cup metagame, Bagon is a one Pokemon that instantly comes to mind. While it is a Dragon-type Pokemon, which is a rarity in the tier (they are only 5 legal Dragon-type Pokemon in Little Cup), Bagon is by far the most overlooked. While most Dragon-type Pokemon tend to be Dragon Dancers or just powerful physical attacking Pokemon in general, this isn't the case for Bagon. While it does have a decent Attack stat of 75, offensively, Bagon is outclassed. This is because its two main competitors, Dratini and Axew, have better coverage or a much higher Attack stat, respectively. Nevertheless, Bagon has a niche over its Dragon-type counterparts by gaining access to a move many Little Cup Pokemon wish they had, Wish. Thanks to Wish, Bagon becomes a durable Pokemon capable of tanking the hardest of physical attacks in the LC tier. However, it isn't all great for Bagon. Since Because Dragon-type Pokemon sport resistances to a lot of usually special type attacks, such as Water and Fire, its low base Special Defense doesn't help when trying to tank attacks from the special side. Nevertheless, Bagon is a good Pokemon if you need something to heal your team and tank hard physical hits, but don't expect it to do too much.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Wish
    move 2: Dragon Claw
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Protect / Toxic
    item: Evoilte
    ability: Rock Head
    nature: Relaxed
    evs: 236 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Bagon's only viable set in LC, and just like its evolved form Salamence in OU, this set is used to not only heal itself and its team with Wish, but to tank attacks as well. While it doesn't have the biggest HP stat to pass Wishes with, its typing gives it cool resistances to common offensive types such as Fire, Water, Grass, and Electric, which gives it its niche. Dragon Claw is used for damage purposes, as well as preventing Bagon from becoming Taunt bait. Fire Blast is for Steels, mainly Magnemite and Ferroseed, who that will try and use Bagon as setup bait. In fact, Bagon can 2HKO Magnemite and it even has the chance to OHKO Ferrothorn with 36 Special Attack EVs. Protect is used to ensure you Bagon gets the Wish, and it also works with Toxic Spikes as it stalls out poison as well. However, if you aren't concerned about getting a guaranteed Wish, Toxic works, as it breaks down Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Hippopotas, Murkrow, and others.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>With maximum HP investment plus the maximum investment Bagon can have with a Relaxed nature, Bagon has as much physical bulk as possible. After the aforementioned 36 SpA EVs are used to deal with Magnomite and Ferroseed, the remaining EVs go into SpD, as that is the only place where those EVs have any use.</p>

    <p>Roar can be used in the last slot as it works as Dragon Tail, phazing out Pokemon and racking up entry hazard damage. Other attacks such as Zen Headbutt, Crunch, Rock Slide, and Brick Break can be used over Fire Blast for a Wish passer that can deal with certain threats. Zen Headbutt can deal with Mienfoo and Croagunk. Crunch is for Misdrevus and other Ghosts and Psychics. Rock Slide is for the Larvesta, while Brick Break is for Pawniard and Scraggy. If you decide to use one of those attacks, make sure to move that those SpA EVs into Atk.</p>

    <p>Teammates for Bagon should do two things: provide entry hazards to spread damage or status, as well as like having Wishes to heal and enjoy the Wish support Bagon can provide. Pokemon such as Omanyte, Dwebble, Ferroseed, and Pineco all love Bagon, as they can set up Spikes, and Pineco can even Rapid Spin, which is extra helpful. Dewbble, Omanyte, Pineco, and Lileep can all set up Stealth Rock as well, while Omanyte, Trubbish, and Tentacool all set up Toxic Spikes. Pokemon that can keep those hazards on the field are cool partners as well. Misdreavus is a great example, as it can block Rapid Spin, and it loves the Wishes. Magnemite is another great teammate, as it traps Steels if Bagon isn't running Fire Blast.</p>

    Calcs I'll add in when the GP checks are done, I will get these in I promise

    [Other Options]

    <p>While it has other offensive options, Bagon is usually better off not using them. Dragon Dance and Hone Claws with Dragon Rush can work, though Dratini and Axew make better Dragon Dancers. A Choice Band set can also work, with Outrage, Dragon Claw, Fire Blast, and another coverage move being used, though Axew makes the better Choice Band user due to better Attack and Mold Breaker.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>While Bagon is cool at tanking physical attacks, without Roar, it can't stop Pokemon from setting up on it. Scarggy can set up for days unless Bagon has Brick Break. Shellder and Clamperl can set up a Shell Smash on it and begin to cause problems. In general, anything that can tank an attack from Bagon can set up on it pretty easily. Misdreavus can just burn it with Will-O-Wisp, making its physical attacks useless, while Hippopotas can easily Roar Bagon out, which screws up the Pokemon that Bagon passes its Wishes too.</p>

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    C/P (open)

    [Overview]

    <p>When it comes to underrated Pokemon in the Little Cup metagame, Bagon is one Pokemon that instantly comes to mind. While it is a Dragon-type Pokemon, which is a rarity in the tier (they are only 5 legal Dragon-type Pokemon in Little Cup), Bagon is by far the most overlooked. While most Dragon-type Pokemon tend to be Dragon Dancers or just powerful physical attacking Pokemon in general, this isn't the case for Bagon. While it does have a decent base Attack stat of 75, offensively, Bagon is outclassed. This is because its two main competitors, Dratini and Axew, have better coverage and a much higher Attack stat, respectively. Nevertheless, Bagon has a niche over its Dragon-type counterparts by gaining access to a move many Little Cup Pokemon wish they had, Wish. Thanks to Wish, Bagon becomes a durable Pokemon capable of tanking the hardest of physical attacks in the LC tier. However, it isn't all great for Bagon. Because Dragon-type Pokemon sport resistances to a lot of usually specially orientated attacks, such as Water and Fire, its low base Special Defense doesn't help when trying to tank attacks from the special side. Nevertheless, Bagon is a good Pokemon if you need something to heal your team and tank hard physical hits, but don't expect it to do too much.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Wish
    move 2: Dragon Claw
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Protect / Toxic
    item: Evoilte
    ability: Rock Head
    nature: Relaxed
    evs: 236 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Bagon's only viable set in LC, and just like its evolved form Salamence in OU, this set is used to not only heal itself and its team with Wish, butto tank attacks as well. While it doesn't have the biggest HP stat to pass Wishes with, its typing gives it useful resistances to common offensive types such as Fire, Water, Grass, and Electric, which gives it its niche. Dragon Claw is used for damage purposes, as well as to prevent Bagon from becoming Taunt bait. Fire Blast hits Steels, mainly Magnemite and Ferroseed, that will try to use Bagon as setup bait. In fact, Bagon can 2HKO Magnemite and it even has the chance to OHKO Ferroseed with 36 Special Attack EVs.(Put this in AC) Protect is used to ensure Bagon gets the revocery from Wish without having to take a hit or switch-out, and it also works with Toxic Spikes as it stalls out poison as well. However, if you aren't concerned about getting guaranteed recovery from Wish, Toxic can be used over Protect, as it breaks down Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Hippopotas, Murkrow, and others.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>With maximum HP investment plus the maximuminvestment Bagon can have with a Relaxed nature, Bagon has as much physical bulk as possible. After the aforementioned 36 SpA EVs are used to deal with Magnomite and Ferroseed, the remaining EVs go into SpD, as that is the only place where those EVs have any use. Using an Eviolite on this defensive set makes sense, as it boosts both Bagon's Defense and Special Defense.</p>

    <p>Roar can be used on the last slot as it works like Dragon Tail: phazes out Pokemon and racks up entry hazard damage. Other attacks such as Zen Headbutt, Crunch, Rock Slide, and Brick Break can be used over Fire Blast for a Wish passer that can deal with certain threats. Zen Headbutt can deal with Mienfoo and Croagunk. Crunch is for Misdrevus and other Ghosts and Psychics. Rock Slide is for the Larvesta, while Brick Break is for Pawniard and Scraggy. If you decide to use one of those attacks over Fire Blast, make sure to move those Special Attack EVs into Attack.</p>

    <p>Teammates for Bagon should do two things: provide entry hazards to spread damage or status, and enjoy the Wish support Bagon can provide. Pokemon such as Omanyte, Dwebble, Ferroseed, and Pineco all love Bagon, as they can set up Spikes, and Pineco can even Rapid Spin, which is extra helpful. Dewbble, Omanyte, Pineco, and Lileep can all set up Stealth Rock as well, while Omanyte, Trubbish, and Tentacool all set up Toxic Spikes. Pokemon that can keep those hazards on the field are useful partners as well. Misdreavus is a great example, as it can block Rapid Spin, and loves the Wishes. Magnemite is another great teammate, as it traps Steels if Bagon isn't running Fire Blast.</p>

    (Yo, you forgot to put Pokemon that have good synergy with Bagon!!)

    [Other Options]

    <p>While it has other offensive options, Bagon is usually better off not using them. (why so?) Dragon Dance or Hone Claws with Dragon Rush can work, though Dratini and Axew make better Dragon Dancers. A Choice Band set can also work with Outrage, Dragon Claw, Fire Blast, and another coverage move, though Axew makes the better Choice Band user due to better Attack and Mold Breaker.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>While Bagon is good at tanking physical attacks, without Roar, it can't stop Pokemon from setting up on it. Scarggy can set up for days unless Bagon has Brick Break. Shellder and Clamperl can set up a Shell Smash on it and begin to cause problems. In general, anything that can tank an attack from Bagon can set up on it pretty easily. Misdreavus can just burn it with Will-O-Wisp, making its physical attacks useless, while Hippopotas can easily Roar Bagon out, which screws up the Pokemon that Bagon passes its Wishes too.</p>

    (Check and Counters is kinda small so you might want to mention other stuff. For Example, mention Ice Beam Staryu as it can take hits and also Rapid Spin away hazards, which Bagon hates)


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    <p>When it comes to underrated Pokemon in the Little Cup metagame, Bagon is one Pokemon that instantly comes to mind. While it is a Dragon-type Pokemon, which is a rarity in the tier (they are only 5 legal Dragon-type Pokemon in Little Cup), Bagon is by far the most overlooked. While most Dragon-type Pokemon tend to be Dragon Dancers or just powerful physical attacking Pokemon in general, this isn't the case for Bagon. While it does have a decent base Attack stat of 75, offensively, Bagon is outclassed. This is because its two main competitors, Dratini and Axew, have better coverage or and a much higher Attack stat, respectively. Nevertheless, Bagon has a niche over its Dragon-type counterparts by gaining access to a move many Little Cup Pokemon wish they had, Wish. Thanks to Wish, Bagon becomes a durable Pokemon capable of tanking the hardest of physical attacks in the LC tier. However, it isn't all great for Bagon. Because Dragon-type Pokemon sport resistances to a lot of usually specially orientated type attacks, such as Water and Fire, its low base Special Defense doesn't help when trying to tank attacks from the special side. Nevertheless, Bagon is a good Pokemon if you need something to heal your team and tank hard physical hits, but don't expect it to do too much.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Wish
    move 2: Dragon Claw
    move 3: Fire Blast
    move 4: Protect / Toxic
    item: Evoilte
    ability: Rock Head
    nature: Relaxed
    evs: 236 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This is Bagon's only viable set in LC, and just like its evolved form Salamence in OU, this set is used to not only heal itself and its team with Wish, butto tank attacks as well. While it doesn't have the biggest HP stat to pass Wishes with, its typing gives it cool useful resistances to common offensive types such as Fire, Water, Grass, and Electric, which gives it its niche. Dragon Claw is used for damage purposes, as well as to preventing Bagon from becoming Taunt bait. Fire Blast is for hits Steels, mainly Magnemite and Ferroseed, that will try and touse Bagon as setup bait. In fact, Bagon can 2HKO Magnemite and it even has the chance to OHKO Ferrothorn Ferroseed with 36 Special Attack EVs.(Put this in AC) Protect is used to ensure(space)Bagon gets the revocery from Wish without having to take a hit or switch-out, and it also works with Toxic Spikes as it stalls out poison as well. However, if you aren't concerned about getting a guaranteed recovery from Wish, Toxic works can be used over Protect, as it breaks down Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Hippopotas, Murkrow, and others.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>With maximum HP investment plus the maximuminvestment Bagon can have with a Relaxed nature, Bagon has as much physical bulk as possible. After the
    aforementioned 36 SpA EVs are used to deal with Magnomite and Ferroseed, the remaining EVs go into SpD, as that is the only place where those EVs have any use. Using an Eviolite on this defensive set makes sense, as it boosts both Bagon's Defense and Special Defense.</p>

    <p>Roar can be used on the last slot as it works as like Dragon Tail: phazes out Pokemon and racks up entry hazard damage. Other attacks such as Zen Headbutt, Crunch, Rock Slide,
    and Brick Break can be used over Fire Blast for a Wish passer that can deal with certain threats. Zen Headbutt can deal with Mienfoo and Croagunk. Crunch is for Misdrevus and other Ghosts and Psychics. Rock Slide is for the Larvesta, while Brick Break is for Pawniard and Scraggy. If you decide to use one of those attacks over Fire Blast, make sure to move those Special Attack EVs into Attack.</p>

    <p>Teammates for Bagon should do two things: provide entry hazards to spread damage or status, and enjoy the Wish support Bagon can provide. Pokemon such as Omanyte, Dwebble, Ferroseed, and Pineco all love Bagon, as they can set up Spikes, and Pineco can even Rapid Spin, which is extra helpful. Dewbble, Omanyte, Pineco, and Lileep can all set up Stealth Rock as well, while Omanyte, Trubbish, and Tentacool all set up Toxic Spikes. Pokemon that can keep those hazards on the field are cool useful partners as well. Misdreavus is a great example, as it can block Rapid Spin, and it loves the Wishes. Magnemite is another great teammate, as it traps Steels if Bagon isn't running Fire Blast.</p>

    (Yo, you forgot to put Pokemon that have good synergy with Bagon!!)

    [Other Options]

    <p>While it has other offensive options, Bagon is usually better off not using them. (why so?) Dragon Dance and or Hone Claws with Dragon Rush can work, though Dratini and Axew make better Dragon Dancers. A Choice Band set can also work, with Outrage, Dragon Claw, Fire Blast, and another coverage move being used, though Axew makes the better Choice Band user due to better Attack and Mold Breaker.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>While Bagon is cool good at tanking physical attacks, without Roar, it can't stop Pokemon from setting up on it. Scarggy can set up for days unless Bagon has Brick Break. Shellder and Clamperl can set up a Shell Smash on it and begin to cause problems. In general, anything that can tank an attack from Bagon can set up on it pretty easily. Misdreavus can just burn it with Will-O-Wisp, making its physical attacks useless, while Hippopotas can easily Roar Bagon out, which screws up the Pokemon that Bagon passes its Wishes too.</p>

    (Check and Counters is kinda small so you might want to mention other stuff. For Example, mention Ice Beam Staryu as it can take hits and also Rapid Spin away hazards, which Bagon hates)
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