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For each letter there is in the name of a move that does damage, that move gets +10 Base Power. Spaces count.
I think it'd be clearer if you said "Every move has a Base Power equal to 10 x the number of letters in its name. Spaces count."

anyway here you go i used excel to do this:
Name / Type / Category / New BPr / Accuracy
Parabolic Charge / Electric / Special / 160 / 100%
Thousand Arrows / Ground / Physical / 150 / 100%
Disarming Voice / Fairy / Special / 150 / —
Hyperspace Hole / Psychic / Special / 150 / —
High Jump Kick / Fighting / Physical / 140 / 90%
Petal Blizzard / Grass / Physical / 140 / 100%
Power-Up Punch / Fighting / Physical / 140 / 100%
Smelling Salts / Normal / Physical / 140 / 100%
Thousand Waves / Ground / Physical / 140 / 100%
Dazzling Gleam / Fairy / Special / 140 / 100%
Steam Eruption / Water / Special / 140 / 95%
Diamond Storm / Rock / Physical / 130 / 95%
Dynamic Punch / Fighting / Physical / 130 / 50%
Phantom Force / Ghost / Physical / 130 / 100%
Self-Destruct / Normal / Physical / 130 / 100%
Thunder Punch / Electric / Physical / 130 / 100%
Ancient Power / Rock / Special / 130 / 100%
Dragon Breath / Dragon / Special / 130 / 100%
Draining Kiss / Fairy / Special / 130 / 100%
Light of Ruin / Fairy / Special / 130 / 90%
Mystical Fire / Fire / Special / 130 / 100%
Oblivion Wing / Flying / Special / 130 / 100%
Thunder Shock / Electric / Special / 130 / 100%
Attack Order / Bug / Physical / 120 / 100%
Circle Throw / Fighting / Physical / 120 / 90%
Close Combat / Fighting / Physical / 120 / 100%
Cross Poison / Poison / Physical / 120 / 100%
Feint Attack / Dark / Physical / 120 / —
Fell Stinger / Bug / Physical / 120 / 100%
Flame Charge / Fire / Physical / 120 / 100%
Flying Press / Fighting / Physical / 120 / 95%
Freeze Shock / Ice / Physical / 120 / 90%
Icicle Crash / Ice / Physical / 120 / 90%
Icicle Spear / Ice / Physical / 120 / 100%
Land's Wrath / Ground / Physical / 120 / 100%
Natural Gift / Normal / Physical / 120 / 100%
Poison Sting / Poison / Physical / 120 / 100%
Rock Wrecker / Rock / Physical / 120 / 90%
Rolling Kick / Fighting / Physical / 120 / 85%
Sacred Sword / Fighting / Physical / 120 / 100%
Secret Power / Normal / Physical / 120 / 100%
Shadow Force / Ghost / Physical / 120 / 100%
Shadow Punch / Ghost / Physical / 120 / —
Sky Uppercut / Fighting / Physical / 120 / 90%
Spike Cannon / Normal / Physical / 120 / 100%
Sucker Punch / Dark / Physical / 120 / 100%
Thunder Fang / Electric / Physical / 120 / 95%
Wake-Up Slap / Fighting / Physical / 120 / 100%
Zen Headbutt / Psychic / Physical / 120 / 90%
Draco Meteor / Dragon / Special / 120 / 90%
Dragon Pulse / Dragon / Special / 120 / 100%
Echoed Voice / Normal / Special / 120 / 100%
Electro Ball / Electric / Special / 120 / 100%
Extrasensory / Psychic / Special / 120 / 100%
Final Gambit / Fighting / Special / 120 / 100%
Flamethrower / Fire / Special / 120 / 100%
Flash Cannon / Steel / Special / 120 / 100%
Frenzy Plant / Grass / Special / 120 / 90%
Frost Breath / Ice / Special / 120 / 90%
Fusion Flare / Fire / Special / 120 / 100%
Future Sight / Psychic / Special / 120 / 100%*
Grass Pledge / Grass / Special / 120 / 100%
Hidden Power / Normal / Special / 120 / 100%
Hydro Cannon / Water / Special / 120 / 90%
Leaf Tornado / Grass / Special / 120 / 90%
Luster Purge / Psychic / Special / 120 / 100%
Magical Leaf / Grass / Special / 120 / —
Ominous Wind / Ghost / Special / 120 / 100%
Psycho Boost / Psychic / Special / 120 / 90%
Roar of Time / Dragon / Special / 120 / 90%
Searing Shot / Fire / Special / 120 / 100%
Secret Sword / Fighting / Special / 120 / 100%
Spacial Rend / Dragon / Special / 120 / 95%
Stored Power / Psychic / Special / 120 / 100%
Struggle Bug / Bug / Special / 120 / 100%
Synchronoise / Psychic / Special / 120 / 100%
Techno Blast / Normal / Special / 120 / 100%
Water Pledge / Water / Special / 120 / 100%
Weather Ball / Normal / Special / 120 / 100%
HELIOLISK OP PARABOLIC CHARGE + HIDDEN POWER OOOOOOOO GOODBYE EVERYONE
 
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We should test it first before determining if it's actually broken. Keep in mind that while Parabolic Charge is powerful, it is limited to Helio/Dedenne.
 

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We should test it first before determining if it's actually broken. Keep in mind that while Parabolic Charge is powerful, it is limited to Helio/Dedenne.
252 SpA Choice Specs Heliolisk Parabolic Charge (160 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Deoxys-D: 178-210 (58.5 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Heliolisk is pretty much a beast now.
 
Infestation-110 BP trapping move. (Maybe there's hope for Stall yet!)
Magma Storm-See above.
Pursuit is now 70 BP.
Chlorrophyll Victreebell with Weather Ball in the sun is a force to be reckoned with.
Hyperspace Hole is also neat. Being able to hit through Protect and Detect means Stall is probably completely dead when paired up with its 150 BP.

As for Heliolisk let's not forget that Parabolic Charge isn't a priority move. Which means a strong priority move (and since they all got buffed to 80) may be able to sneak in a OHKO. Too bad the only one I found thus far is Choice Band Dragonite's Extreme Speed who is suspected.

Oh, by the way does Sucker Punch fall into the category of other priority moves or is it like ExtremeSpeed and considered like a special case due to its low PP and situational use.
 

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Infestation-110 BP trapping move. (Maybe there's hope for Stall yet!)
Magma Storm-See above.
Pursuit is now 70 BP.
Chlorrophyll Victreebell with Weather Ball in the sun is a force to be reckoned with.
Hyperspace Hole is also neat. Being able to hit through Protect and Detect means Stall is probably completely dead when paired up with its 150 BP.

As for Heliolisk let's not forget that Parabolic Charge isn't a priority move. Which means a strong priority move (and since they all got buffed to 80) may be able to sneak in a OHKO. Too bad the only one I found thus far is Choice Band Dragonite's Extreme Speed who is suspected.

Oh, by the way does Sucker Punch fall into the category of other priority moves or is it like ExtremeSpeed and considered like a special case due to its low PP and situational use.
Dragonite isn't being suspected, silly goose! I'm just saying it's completely possible as Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed is going to be pretty terrifying.

Also, Mega Venusaur seems to bring hope for stall with a new Base 100 Giga Drain and Leech Seed combo, but we'll see, with all the new powerful buffs, a lot of things can happen

Also, Sucker Punch is now 120 BP and is not considered the same priority as Ice Shard / Shadow Sneak etc.
 
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Dragonite isn't being suspected, silly goose! I'm just saying it's completely possible as Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed is going to be pretty terrifying.

Also, Mega Venusaur seems to bring hope for stall with a new Base 100 Giga Drain and Leech Seed combo, but we'll see, with all the new powerful buffs, a lot of things can happen

Also, Sucker Punch is now 120 BP and is not considered the same priority as Ice Shard / Shadow Sneak etc.
Sucker Punch only works if the user moves first tho
 
I would have said, I have a better idea for Multi-Hit moves. The average number of hits is 3.33. Why don't you divide the power it WOULD have as one move by 3.33 (and reduce it to the nearest tens). So, that makes Icicle Spear...still a 30 BP move.

But it does make Water Shuriken a Base 40 move.
 
What is going to happen in regards to Mega Banette? With a 165 base attack stat and access to shadow sneak priority as well as prankster Will-o-wisp and substitute, it can be a real game changer.
 

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100 BP Steel Wing. not bad

120 BP Flame Charge. No recoil, +1 speed to beat scarfers and Thundurus. not bad at all

100 BP Acrobatics. 200 BP if no item. gg

also, obligatory shoutout to Petal Blizzard for having 140 BP, but no good users
 

The Shellder Smuggler

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What is going to happen in regards to Mega Banette? With a 165 base attack stat and access to shadow sneak priority as well as prankster Will-o-wisp and substitute, it can be a real game changer.
+ Prankster destiny bond, something really helpful in this meta. Mega Banette actually may be a huge threat.
 
50 BP isn't that good... Unless you're Mega Pinsir. Then that's concerning.
Yeah. I said it was the only priority move that didn't hit a cap
lmao at Talonflame being nerfed

100 BP Steel Wing. not bad

120 BP Flame Charge. No recoil, +1 speed to beat scarfers and Thundurus. not bad at all

100 BP Acrobatics. 200 BP if no item. gg

also, obligatory shoutout to Petal Blizzard for having 140 BP, but no good users
It also has wing attack if you'd rather hold an item
Come on, you can't forget about the quivering own tempo Lilligant
 

The Shellder Smuggler

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So I've looked through everyone's comments and here are some moves that appear to be threats:

  • Parabolic Charge / Electric / Special / 160 / 100%

Only Heliolisk gets it, but with 105 Special Attack and Speed, we'll see how it does

  • Ancient Power / Rock / Special / 130 / 100%

+ chance to become the ultimate sweeper

  • Dragon Breath / Dragon / Special / 130 / 100%

goodbye draco meteor (high paralysis rate too)

  • Power-Up Punch / Fighting / Physical / 140 / 100%

Boosts Attack too


Also, can we please not have any "ban pls" comments until the meta is actually playable, it's like saying an air force jet will endanger the world when the only thing we see is blueprints.
 
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Maybe moves that have a positive secondary effect above 50% could have their power halved? So charge beam, flame charge, and power-up punch would be half as ridiculous. That or base power for those moves could be capped at 100.
Also a 120 bp sucker punch is a very very bad idea.
 

The Shellder Smuggler

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Maybe moves that have a positive secondary effect above 50% could have their power halved? So charge beam, flame charge, and power-up punch would be half as ridiculous. That or base power for those moves could be capped at 100.
No, i think I already have something planned to even it out, and it's pretty op at the same time :]

Also a 120 bp sucker punch is a very very bad idea.
Survival of the fittest fren :]
 
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