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Blastoise

Discussion in 'Global Battle Union' started by DreamTalon, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. DreamTalon

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    Blastoise
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    HP: 78
    Attack: 83
    Defense: 100
    Special Attack: 85
    Special Defense: 105
    Speed: 78

    Torrent: When HP is below 1/3rd, Water’s power increases to 1.5 times.
    Hidden Ability:
    Rain Dish: If Heavy Rain weather is in effect, recovers 1/16th max Hit Points at the end of the turn. ​

    (Double) Bulky Fake Out

    Blastoise @ Wacan Berry
    Calm
    Torrent/Rain Dish
    196 Speed, 252 HP, 60 Special Defense
    Fake Out
    Scald
    Ice Beam
    Protect​

    Blastoise is one of the few bulky Fake Out users, other than Scrafty. The difference in between Scrafty and Blastoise is that Blastoise has the ability to burn physical attacking threats with Scald, and tank them. Fake Out is needed, as that is the only reason to use it over other Scald users, such as Milotic who has more bulk and Special Attack. Ice Beam provides coverage against Dragon and Grass types, which Scald doesn't hit. Protect is needed for predictions and burn stalling.​

    The item allows Blastoise to easily survive Electric attacks from things like Zapdos and Eelektross. The ability choice only matters if running a Rain team, but other Rain Fake Out users like Toxicroak and Ludicolo generally are better. 196 Speed EVs allows Blastoise to out speed neutral natured, max speed Hitmontop by one speed point. The rest are put into HP and Special Defense, and physical attacks Blastoise can easily shrug off.​
  2. cosmicexplorer

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    Does Blastoise have anything over Ludicolo for a Fake Out user? It seems almost entirely outclassed.
  3. Ashenlock

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    Just curious, would Blastoise be able to survive a Thunderbolt from Zapdos/etc. anyway with those EVs? Because if it does survive, that means it would be a 2HKO either way.

    Also, before anybody suggests Water Spout, I don't think it's compatible with Fake Out.
  4. DreamTalon

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    I think it can. It is rediculously bulky.

    EDIT: Refering to being 2HKOed by Thunderbolt from Zapdos. With Wacan, probably even 3HKO'd. Too lazy to calc though...
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    Water Spout is not compatible with Fake Out.
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    I tried water spout a while back; it was too weak.
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    177 Atk vs 146 Def & 186 HP (95 Base Power): 66 - 78 (35.48% - 41.94%)
    252EV Non SpA+ Zapdos's Thunderbolt vs. Wacan 252/60 Calm Blastoise

    177 Atk vs 146 Def & 186 HP (95 Base Power): 132 - 156 (70.97% - 83.87%)
    252EV Non SpA+ Zapdos's Thunderbolt vs. 252/60 Calm Blastoise

    Blastoise is 2HKO'ed by Zapdos's Thunderbolt, even with Wacan and minimal damage.
  8. DreamTalon

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    I see. Does anyone have an EV spread to be 3HKO'd? I'm on a phone right now.
  9. Infinity.Cypher

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    252/252 Calm Blastoise is the best bet, but can be 2hkoed by 252 Non SpA+ Zapdos's Thunderbolt, even with Wacan equipped

    Here's the close non 252/252 I could find: 236hp/228def Calm

    177 Atk vs 169 Def & 184 HP (95 Base Power): 57 - 67 (30.98% - 36.41%) Avg = 33.15%
    252EV Non SpA+ Zapdos's Thunderbolt vs. Wacan 236/228 Calm Blastoise

    177 Atk vs 169 Def & 184 HP (95 Base Power): 114 - 134 (61.96% - 72.83%) Avg = 66.30%
    252EV Non SpA+ Zapdos's Thunderbolt vs. 236/228 Calm Blastoise

    If Zapdos hits average damage, then Blastoise will live with about ~2hp left. That's the best 3hko ev spread I can make without making the spread 252/252
  10. Moe2

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    What is the purpose of fake-out on this set? If you don't mind me asking O.o
  11. cosmicexplorer

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    Fake Out is a staple move in Doubles play, as immobilizing the opponent for a turn is immeasurably useful. Further explanation on the benefits of the move in Doubles can be found here.
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  13. DreamTalon

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    Yeah probably the beat bet is to use Wacan and kill with partner.

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