Blissey [4F]

Theorymon · Jun 15, 2009

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/blissey

Okay, a couple things to note here.
-I have added an Uber team options and an Uber counter section.
-I also have team comments under each set
Please mention if I am missing anything, I will probably add it!
Special thanks to joshe who spell checked this!

[SET]
name: Uber Wisher
move 1: Wish
move 2: Protect
move 3: Seismic Toss / Ice Beam
move 4: Toxic
item: Leftovers / Shed Shell
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Even with incredible walls such as Giratina and Lugia in the Uber tier, Blissey is still the number one special wall to use. Blissey is the only Pokémon in Ubers that can wall such a wide variety of special threats, such as Latias, Latios (as long as it lacks Refresh or Safeguard), Palkia, Dialga (provided they aren’t mixed), and Calm Mind Lugia. As far as attacking options go, Seismic Toss is generally the most reliable as it will do a decent amount of damage to Pokémon like Kyogre and Latias who would otherwise laugh at Ice Beam. Seismic Toss also allows Blissey to have a better chance of beating Mewtwo that have Calm Mind and Taunt, which Ice Beam can not accomplish. Ice Beam is still a good option though, as three common Blissey switch-ins (Groudon, Garchomp, and Rayquaza) are hit super effectively by it. With 84 SpA EVs, Garchomp takes a massive 76.19% - 90.76% from Ice Beam when it switches in, while a 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza will be OHKOed after switching into Stealth Rock. In emergencies, you can leave Blissey in on Rayquaza, because the opponent may attempt to set up a Dragon Dance or Swords Dance. When using Seismic Toss, use the EV spread 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD, as there is no reason to invest in Special Attack when using it. Toxic complements this set well, as the combination of Protect and Wish can very easily stall Pokémon to death. Toxic is a good choice to use if you predict the opponent is going to switch, as several threats to Blissey (Kyogre, Darkrai, and Giratina-O) become much easier to handle when badly poisoned. Thunder Wave can be used over Toxic, but make sure you use it only with Seismic Toss. This is because without Seismic Toss or Toxic, Latias can set up Calm Minds with no problem and eventually KO Blissey. Although not recommend due to moveslot competition, Heal Bell can be used over Protect if your team needs both a status releaver and a user of Wish.

Blissey is one of the few viable Wish passers in the Uber tier, thus many good teammates for Blissey are simply Pokémon that greatly appreciate Wish. A perfect example of this is Choice Specs Kyogre. While Choice Specs Kyogre is an insanely powerful wall breaker, Water Spout's power will unfortunately decrease as Kyogre's HP diminishes. With Blissey's Wish, Kyogre can have a chance to have an extremely powerful Water Spout again. In a similar manner, Choice Scarf Kyogre will also love Wish. Wobbuffet is another Pokémon that greatly benefits from Wish support. It, while being bulky, will usually only be able to revenge kill one Pokémon per match. With Blissey's Wish, Wobbuffet will be able to stay in battle for a much longer period of time, thus making it much more difficult for the opponent to handle. Another Pokemon that benefits from Blissey's Wish is Forretress. This will allow Forretress to take more powerful hits from the likes of Garchomp, allowing it to have more time to set up Spikes and Toxic Spikes. Finally, a defensive support Groudon will have a much easier time dealing with Lucario and Rayquaza thanks to Blissey's Wish support; as well as support Dialga having an easier time dealing with Palkia and Kyogre.

While Blissey may still be the queen of special walling in Ubers, some of the special attackers of Ubers are so powerful that they can break through her. A good example of this is Kyogre, which has several sets that can make Blissey run for cover. Choice Specs Kyogre is so absurdly powerful that it can 2HKO Blissey with Water Spout, as long as it has at least 80% of its health. Kyogre can also use 252 HP EVs to make 101 HP Substitutes, which means that it can set up Calm Mind while Blissey is forced to use Seismic Toss twice to break the Substitutes. After three Calm Minds, a Modest Kyogre will always 2HKO Blissey with Surf, even when accounting for Leftovers recovery. Finally, Kyogre may carry the combination of Sleep Talk and Rest to either set up Calm Mind on Blissey or to outstall her. To solve the problems Blissey has with Kyogre, Latias should always be considered. Latias can switch into Choice Specs Kyogre's Water Spout, and use Thunder to weaken its power by reducing Kyogre's HP. Latias can use Calm Mind as the other Kyogre variants attempt to set up, and will usually beat it. The combination of Latias and Blissey will wall every single Kyogre set, making Latias an excellent teammate for Wish Blissey. Palkia is another good option if you only need a Pokémon to beat Choice Specs Kyogre. Something to note is that once Kyogre has switched into Stealth Rock twice, it will no longer be able to 2HKO Blissey with a Choice Specs Water Spout, thus Blissey will be able to wall it with ease as long as there are no critical hits. Manaphy can also cause serious issues for Blissey when it’s raining. It will be immune to status and can set up Tail Glow or Rest off the damage it has taken and wake up immediately afterwards, thanks to its ability, Hydration. After two Tail Glows and Life Orb, Manaphy will always 2HKO Blissey with Surf. To beat Manaphy, Latias once again makes an excellent teammate, as it OHKOes it with Thunder after Stealth Rock and will win a Calm Mind war if Manaphy attempts that.

Nasty Plot Darkrai can cause some serious problems for Blissey. After one use of Nasty Plot, Darkrai will 2HKO Blissey with Focus Blast. To make matters even worse, Darkrai can carry Substitute to block Thunder Wave and Toxic. It can also put Blissey to sleep with Dark Void, not only giving it the opportunity to set up, but also dealing damage with its ability, Bad Dreams. Generally, the best way to deal with Darkrai is to predict a Dark Void and send in a sleep absorber (usually carrying Sleep Talk, but this is not required). Then, switch to a Pokémon that can revenge kill Darkrai (such as Life Orb Mewtwo, Choice Scarf Palkia, Choice Specs Shaymin-S, etc.). Something to note is if a Choice Scarf Darkrai switches into Blissey, it is likely that it is carrying Trick, thus it is best to switch to a Choice Scarf user of your own or a Pokémon that does not mind being Tricked with a Choice Scarf.

Mewtwo can also pose a problem for Blissey, due to Taunt and Substitute. Mewtwo can make 101 HP Substitutes and use Calm Mind to beat Blissey in a similar way Kyogre can. It also has the option of using Taunt and Recover to PP stall Blissey, thanks to Pressure. In a similar manner, Mew can Taunt Blissey and use the time to set up and Baton Pass to a powerful Pokémon such as Groudon. To stop Substitute Mewtwo and Baton Pass Mew, Scizor makes an excellent choice. Mewtwo can be hit hard by Pursuit even if it stays in, while Mew will get its Reflect and Light Screen broken by Brick Break and be OHKOed by U-turn. Choice Specs Kyogre also works well, as it can switch into a defensive Mewtwo with ease and threaten to OHKO with Water Spout, while Mew will take massive damage.

Another problem for Blissey is Giratina as it can easily outstall Blissey due to its Pressure ability and Ghost-typing. Giratina can also use a combination of Sleep Talk, Rest, and Calm Mind to set up on Blissey. Although it’s very rare, Latias and Latios can beat Blissey in a similar manner with Calm Mind, Recover, and either Refresh or Safeguard. Generally, the best answer to Giratina is Bulk Up Dialga. Dialga can easily set up Bulk Up as Giratina uses Will-O-Wisp and then use Rest to restore its health. After three uses of Bulk Up, Dialga will always OHKO Giratina with Outrage. For Calm Mind Giratina, Tyranitar can switch in and cause a serious amount of damage with a Choice Banded Crunch. For Latias and Latios, Tyranitar, Scizor, and Metagross can penetrate them with Pursuit or their powerful STAB attacks.

If Giratina-O switches in on any move but Thunder Wave or Toxic, it can pose a serious threat to not only Blissey, but also to the rest of the team. Blissey will have a difficult time breaking Giratina-O's Substitutes with Ice Beam. If it uses Calm Mind, Blissey will no longer be able to break Giratina-O's Substitute, meaning that Giratina-O can continue to set up Calm Mind. After four uses of Calm Mind, Giratina-O is able to 2HKO Blissey with Dragon Pulse, and then threaten to sweep the rest of your team. To solve this issue, it is advisable to use a Careful Forretress with Light Screen and Payback. Forretress can switch into Giratina-O, use Light Screen to minimize the damage it takes, and then 4HKO Giratina-O with Payback. It is also a huge help to Blissey, due to Toxic Spikes. When Forretress sets up two layers of Toxic Spikes, several big threats to Blissey, such as Darkrai, Choice Specs Kyogre, and Substitute Mewtwo, will become much easier to handle due to the constant damage from poison. If Forretress does not fit on your team, it is best to use Tyranitar, whose combination of Crunch and Sand Stream will make Giratina-O's life short.

If Shaymin-S is using a Modest nature and Choice Specs, it can 2HKO Blissey with Seed Flare if it gets a Special Defense drop. Choice Scarf Dialga, Choice Scarf Heatran, Choice Scarf Jirachi, and Choice Scarf Metagross are capable of switching into a Choice Specs Seed Flare, and can OHKO Shaymin-S with Draco Meteor (Dialga), Fire Blast (Dialga and Heatran), or Ice Punch (Jirachi and Metagross). Be warned, Choice Scarf Jirachi and Choice Scarf Metagross will still take a siginifcant amount of damage from repeated switch-ins to Seed Flare, despite their resistance. Skarmory can take a Seed Flare due to its 4x resistance, and Whirlwind Shaymin-S away. Choice Band Scizor can also switch into Seed Flare, and threaten to 2HKO it with Bullet Punch. Latias and Lugia can survive two Seed Flares (although it will do a severe amount of damage to both if it gets a Special Defense drop), and threaten to OHKO Shaymin-S with Dragon Pulse and Ice Beam respectively after taking Stealth Rock damage.

While Leftovers is generally the preferred option, Shed Shell is a very viable alternative in Ubers because of Wobbuffet. Wobbuffet can switch into Blissey, trap it, and use a combination of Tickle and Encore several times. After Wobbuffet is done Tickling Blissey, the opponent can switch to Scizor or Tyranitar to eliminate Blissey with Pursuit. Due to Wobbuffet's ability, Shadow Tag, this is completely unavoidable without the use of Shed Shell. Blissey can also become set up bait for Wobbuffet, which is very undesirable with the powerful sweepers roaming around in the Uber tier.

[SET]
name: Ubers Softboiled
move 1: Softboiled
move 2: Seismic Toss / Ice Beam
move 3: Toxic / Thunder Wave
move 4: Ice Beam / Aromatherapy
item: Leftovers / Shed Shell
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
This set is very similar to Wish Blissey, but it forgoes the supportive nature of Wish and Protect in exchange for Softboiled, which frees up an extra moveslot for Blissey. The best two moves for this moveslot are Ice Beam or Aromatherapy. With the EV spread above, Blissey's Ice Beam is able to OHKO Rayquaza with 4 Special Defense EVs 100% of the time after it takes Stealth Rock damage, thus making Blissey an effective Rayquaza lure.

Aromatherapy can be especially useful in Ubers for a number of reasons. Thunder is one of the most common moves used in the Uber tier, and with it comes a 30% chance of paralysis which can ruin the many sweepers of the tier. Darkrai is also a huge threat in Ubers, and can often cripple a Pokémon for the entire match with Dark Void due to the fast paced nature of Ubers. With that being said, many of Aromatherapy Blissey's best teammates are powerful or game changing Pokémon that are very vulnerable to status effects. A good example of this is Wobbuffet. When Wobbuffet is using Encore to either destroy a wall with the Tickle + Pursuit user combination, or just trying to set up a sweeper, Wobbuffet will often get hit by Toxic or Will-O-Wisp, cutting down its survivability. Blissey's Aromatherapy can remove Wobbuffet's status affliction, allowing Wobbuffet to do its job of removing Choice Scarf Pokémon more easily. Another good teammate is a Quiet mixed Dialga. While mixed Dialga will easily destroy Giratina with Draco Meteor, Giratina can use Will-O-Wisp to destroy Dialga's chances of breaking through Latias and Blissey. With your own Blissey's Aromatherapy, Dialga can once again be a powerful wall breaker. Finally, Lugia works very well with this particular Blissey. This is because Lugia, when trying to beat Groudon, can often be hit by Thunder Wave and Toxic, meaning it will be unable to harm the team with the combination of Whirlwind and entry hazards for much longer. Thanks to Blissey's Aromatherapy, Lugia can once again wear down teams with Whirlwind. Generally, Aromatherapy Blissey does very well with sweepers that can be crippled by Paralysis and Burn.

This set will generally have the same issues Wish Blissey has, so refer to Wish Blissey's team options for how to beat its special attacking enemies.

[SET]
name: Uber Calm Minder
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunder
move 4: Softboiled
item: Leftovers / Shed Shell
nature: Calm
evs: 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
With a few adjustments, Calm Mind Blissey can work very well in Ubers. Once again, Blissey should use a Calm Nature with an EV spread of 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD to OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock. Thunder should also be used in place of Thunderbolt, mainly due to its use with the rain support Kyogre gives Blissey, making Thunder 100% accurate, and a powerful attack that has a 30% chance to induce paralysis. While Serene Grace is most certainly a worthy option (especially with a 60% chance of paralysis with Thunder), Natural Cure is usually preferred because without it, Blissey will be crippled by Toxic (and Blissey is also one of the few reliable users of Aromatherapy / Heal Bell in the Uber tier).

One of the biggest selling points of Calm Mind Blissey in Ubers is the ability to beat certain threats that Wish Blissey and Aromatherapy Blissey would normally lose to. For example, Calm Mind Blissey can boost against Giratina-O and eventually destroy it with Ice Beam. Another good example is Choice Specs Kyogre. If Kyogre switches on Blissey as it uses Calm Mind, Kyogre will be 2HKOed by Thunder after Stealth Rock. Thus, Kyogre will no longer pose a threat to Blissey with its weakened Water Spout. It will also beat Calm Mind and Substitute Kyogre by Calm Minding along with it, while Blissey being able to easily recover its health and beat Kyogre with Thunder. Giratina that lack Calm Mind are also beaten by Calm Mind Blissey, because Giratina's Dragon Claw will only do 31% max to Blissey (even Outrage only does 46% maximum). However, Blissey requires three Calm Minds to 2HKO a 248 HP / 8 SpD Giratina. If Manaphy switches in on Blissey it will also lose. This is because Blissey can use Calm Mind as Manaphy sets up Tail Glow. Even a +6 Manaphy will be unable to 2HKO Blissey with Surf in the rain after Blissey has used Calm Mind three times. Meanwhile, a +3 Blissey will be able to OHKO Manaphy with Thunder. Substitute Mewtwo with Calm Mind and Latias or Latios with Calm Mind and Refresh or Safeguard will lose to Blissey in a way like Calm Mind Kyogre.

Calm Mind Blissey will struggle with Calm Mind Kyogre and Calm Mind Giratina that have Rest and Sleep Talk, as they will be able to outstall Blissey unless it gets a critical hit. Additionally, any Pokémon that has Roar or Whirlwind along with Calm Mind can phaze Blissey away, and threaten to sweep. The best example of this is Calm Mind Lugia. To foil Kyogre's plans, once again Latias is easily the best answer, as Kyogre will do little damage to Latias with Surf, while Latias has no problems setting up Calm Mind on it. For Calm Mind Giratina, Bulk Up Dialga can switch in. While a +4 Dragon Pulse will do massive damage to Dialga, a +3 Outrage will always OHKO Giratina. Choice Band Dialga can also beat it with Outrage. Choice Band Tyranitar will also receive minimal damage thanks to the Special Defense boost Sandstream grants it, and can inflict large amounts of damage to Giratina with a Choice Banded Crunch. Tyranitar can also Taunt both Lugia and Giratina and threaten to set up a sweep with Dragon Dance. Support Dialga can also take care of Calm Mind Lugia by crippling it with Toxic. Finally, Mewtwo that have Taunt and Calm Mind can easily set up on Blissey. Metagross and Scizor can usually deal with this variant of Mewtwo, as they often lack Fire attacks.

Psych Up can go over Calm Mind and has several pros and cons. With Psych Up, Blissey can copy stat boosts from Kyogre or Latias that have gotten a large amount of Calm Minds and stop their sweep. However, this comes at the cost of losing to Choice Specs Kyogre, Giratina, and Tail Glow Manaphy in the rain. To beat Kyogre and Manaphy, Latias is once again the best choice, while Bulk Up Dialga or Choice Specs Dialga will annihilate Giratina. As always, Shed Shell is a very viable option as it allows Blissey to escape death by Wobbuffet.

[Team Options]
When using Blissey in Ubers, Forretress should always be considered for the purpose of laying down Toxic Spikes and Spikes. This is because Blissey will force a lot of switches on the opponent’s side due to many Uber Pokémon focusing on special attacks. Toxic Spikes in particular are a huge help to Blissey, as they will wear down Pokémon such as Choice Specs Kyogre, Mewtwo, Garchomp, and Groudon; all of which are problems for Blissey. Stealth Rock can also be useful for the same reasons. Although Blissey can use Stealth Rock herself, it is better to have other Pokemon do this for her. Dialga and Groudon are good examples of this. Deoxys-S and Deoxys-D can also use Spikes that Blissey can benefit from. This can be useful because once Spikes and Stealth Rock are layed, Choice Specs Kyogre can no longer break through Blissey.

Many teams rely on revenge killing their opponents with powerful special attacks in order to deal with certain threats. For example, many teams count on Choice Scarf Palkia to OHKO Darkrai with Draco Meteor. Blissey can work very well with Darkrai in this case. She can easily switch into the incoming Draco Meteor and use the time to either status the next switch-in or switch to another Pokémon that takes advantage of an incoming physical attacker . In a similar manner, Blissey can also partner well with Garchomp, Rayquaza, and Groudon. Many teams use Lugia to stop all three, and Blissey has no problems with switching into Lugia’s Ice Beam. Blissey can then threaten to cripple it or the next switch-in with Toxic.

Much like OU, Blissey’s biggest problem in Ubers are powerful physical attackers that can take advantage of Blissey’s meager base 10 Defense. Garchomp can switch into Blissey while it is using anything but Toxic and Ice Beam, and threaten to do a huge amount of damage with STAB Outrage. Groudon can also switch in and threaten to do huge amounts of damage with STAB Earthquake. Rayquaza, although loathing Thunder Wave and being KOed by Ice Beam, can threaten to either OHKO Blissey with Outrage or set up a sweep. Although most commonly seen as a special attacker, Dialga may use Bulk Up which causes some serious problems for Blissey. Finally, several threats in OU, such as Scizor, Tyranitar, Metagross, and Lucario, are still big issues for Blissey in Ubers. Lugia can make an excellent teammate because of these threats. It can handle Rayquaza, Bulk Up Dialga, Groudon, Metagross, Lucario, and Scizor thanks to its wonderful Defense stat and can OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock. Lugia can use Reflect and Whirlwind to keep the other physical attackers at bay. Reflect itself can aid Blissey in taking U-turn from Scizor and will let her survive Pursuit from Pokémon such as Metagross and Tyranitar as well. Be warned though, while Bold Lugia can handle Choice Scarf Garchomp, it will have trouble dealing with Swords Dance Garchomp. If Swords Dance Garchomp is particularly troubling for your team, make sure Lugia is Timid with an EV spread of 252 HP / 66 Def / 192 Spe. This allows Lugia to outspeed a Jolly Garchomp, and set up Reflect before Garchomp can destroy Lugia with a boosted Stone Edge. Groudon is another great teammate for Blissey. Groudon, with its massive Attack and Defense stats, will easily scare off Tyranitar and Metagross with STAB Earthquake. When using an Impish Groudon, Lucario will fail to OHKO it with a +2 Close Combat, while Groudon will easily OHKO back with Earthquake. Finally, Groudon can deal massive damage to Bulk Up Dialga with STAB, super effective Earthquake. Giratina is another good choice as a teammate for Blissey. Giratina can use Will-O-Wisp on Metagross, Scizor, Groudon and Lucario, ruining their ability to sweep. Much like OU, Skarmory is still an excellent partner for Blissey in Ubers. Skarmory can switch into Garchomp, Scizor, Metagross, and Groudon that lack Fire Punch, and set up Spikes. If any of these foes dare to set up, Skarmory can easily use Whirlwind to make their efforts futile. If one would prefer a more offensive way to deal with these threats, Choice Scarf Shaymin-S can outpace Groudon even after it uses Rock Polish and OHKO it with Seed Flare. Choice Scarf Dialga can revenge kill Swords Dance Rayquaza, Lucario, and Choice Band Garchomp, while Choice Scarf Palkia can revenge kill Dragon Dance Rayquaza. Choice Scarf Jirachi is able to destroy and outrun any Rayquaza due to its 100 base Speed, and can use its Steel-typing to switch in and OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Punch. Choice Scarf Jirachi can also cripple Wobbuffet switch-ins by Tricking them with a Choice Scarf.

Much like the OU tier, Blissey despises users of Leech Seed. The three main users of Leech Seed to watch out for in Ubers are Ludicolo, Jumpluff, and Shaymin-S. Ludicolo can use its Rain Dish ability to restore even more health, Jumpluff can use its Speed to Encore Blissey’s non-attacking moves, and Shaymin-S can threaten to flinch Blissey with Air Slash. The best way to deal with Jumpluff is to use Scizor. Scizor can use U-turn after Jumpluff uses Leech Seed, and then you can switch to Lugia to Ice Beam it. Ludicolo, if lacking Surf, can be set up on by Forretress. You can then use a phazer such as Lugia or Skarmory to force a switch, meaning Ludicolo will be crippled by Toxic Spikes on the next switch-in. Finally, Shaymin-S should be dealt with by Choice Scarf Dialga, who sports a 4x resistance to Seed Flare, and can OHKO Shaymin-S with Draco Meteor. Choice Scarf Jirachi is also capable of revenge killing Shaymin-S with Ice Punch. Lugia and Skarmory can also Whirlwind Shaymin-S away, forcing it to take more damage from Stealth Rock on the next switch-in.

In the Uber tier, many special attackers such as Mewtwo, Darkrai, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina-O will use mixed sets with the main purpose of beating Blissey. A good strategy against this is to use Protect while these Pokémon attempt to beat Blissey, which can reveal whether they are mixed or not. Mixed Darkrai will be effectively handled by Forretress and Scizor if it lacks Hidden Power Fire, while Darkrai that lack Thunder will be destroyed by Kyogre. Palkia can be much more difficult to handle, as it has no true counter. It not only has the capability of using normal mixed sets, but it can also use the combination of Substitute and Focus Punch to destroy Blissey. If Palkia attempts to use Aqua Tail on Blissey, you can switch Latias into it, and threaten to OHKO Palkia with Dragon Pulse. Be warned though, as Palkia may also carry Outrage with the purpose of destroying Latias switch-ins. Garchomp, although unable to switch into Palkia, is able to revenge kill it. A Choice Scarf Metagross can switch into Palkia’s physical assaults and then use Explosion on it. Mixed Dialga can also pose a threat for Blissey, because either Outrage or Brick Break can 2HKO it. Groudon can switch into Dialga’s Outrage or Brick Break, and threaten devastation with Earthquake. Mixed Giratina-O is generally beaten by Scizor if it's raining, as then Hidden Power Fire will not OHKO Scizor, while Scizor can wear down Giratina-O with Pursuit and Roost. Mewtwo can be particularly difficult to beat if it is running a mixed set, because Mewtwo can use Selfdestruct to destroy one of your Pokémon. Usually, the best option against Mewtwo beyond Toxic Spikes is to use a faster Pokémon (such as Choice Scarf Darkrai, Choice Scarf Palkia, etc.) to kill Mewtwo before it kills you. Team Options

[Other Options]
Blissey has a bundle of other support moves for use in Ubers. She is one of the few usable Pokemon in Ubers that has access to Stealth Rock. While Blissey is often better off using other support moves besides Stealth Rock, it is a viable move if no other Pokemon on your team can set it up. Light Screen may seem like an odd choice on Blissey, but it can be helpful for not only support the rest of your team, but will also make sure that Choice Specs Kyogre will no longer be able to 2HKO Blissey while Light Screen lasts. Blissey can use Sing to put would be counters to sleep, but note that Sing only has a 55% chance of hitting the opponent. Snatch can be used to steal Reflects, Light Screens, stat ups, and other support moves, but many users of such moves such as Mewtwo can easily use Taunt to shut down that strategy, in addition to Blissey often being better off using Calm Mind herself rather then stealing Calm Minds. Rest is almost always an inferior option to Softboiled or Wish, but it can work well with Natural Cure, allowing Blissey to be relativity unharmed by Toxic Spikes, and will allow Blissey to outstall opposing Blissey. Blissey can use Block to trap Wobbuffet switch-ins, and then use Toxic to slowly stall Wobbuffet to death. Copy Cat may seem like a strange option on Blissey, but it can be useful in certain situations. For example, it can allow Blissey to use Spikes or Toxic Spikes on Forretress as it uses them. If Forretress attempts to Rapid Spin, you can either roast it with Flamethrower (provided that its sunny), or Copy Cat Rapid Spin to get rid of the opponents entry hazards. Copy Cat can also allow Blissey to defeat Calm Mind Giratina-O and Calm Mind Kyogre that lack Rest. Note, however, that Copy Cat is illegal with Seismic Toss and Wish.

Charm can be used to soften physical attackers attempting to prey on Blissey after a switch-in. Due to Charm, mixed Palkia (barring a Focus Punch) and Dialga will no longer be able to get past Blissey beyond scoring a critical hit, while Groudon and Garchomp will only have a small chance to 2HKO Blissey with a Choice Banded Earthquake and Outrage respectively. Note that both Garchomp and Groudon have access to Swords Dance, thus it is best to still have Pokemon that can defeat both. While an Adamant Life Orb Rayquaza can still 2HKO Blissey with Outrage after being hit by Charm, you can OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock and Charm (provided you have 84 SpA EVs), allowing Blissey to defeat a Pokemon that she is normally greatly troubled by. Charm also has the potential to cause a large amount of switches, thus it is best to pair Charm Blissey with users of entry hazards. Note that both Wish and Seismic Toss are illegal to use with Charm.

Blissey has access to Gravity, a rare but useful move that lasts for five turns. Gravity will allow both Groudon and Garchomp to freely use Earthquake and a 100% accurate Stone Edge, as Gravity eliminates the immunity Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with the Levitate ability for five turns. Gravity will also eliminate the immunity floating Pokemon have to Spikes and Toxic Spikes, meaning that Gravity Blissey will greatly benefit Forretress and Skarmory's Spikes (and Toxic Spikes in Forretress' case) laying abilities. Finally, Gravity will lower the evasion of all Pokemon by 2 stages, meaning that any move that has at least 60% accuracy will always hit. This is especially great for Darkrai, who must often use the 70% accurate Focus Blast and the 80% accurate Dark Void. Calm Mind Mewtwo with Life Orb will also enjoy the effects of Gravity, as it allows Life Orb Mewtwo to safely use Focus Blast, which will always 2HKO opposing Blissey after one use of Calm Mind. Garchomp not only benefits from an Earthquake that hits all Pokemon, it also enjoys the evasion cut as well. This is because the usually unreliable Dragon Rush becomes viable on Garchomp under Gravity, meaning that it will have access to a STAB 100 Base Power Dragon-type attack that has a 20% chance to flinch. Blissey's Sing will also hit 92% of the time under Gravity. There is one potentially fatal flaw with Gravity, and it is that the opponent can also take advantage of Gravity's effects. This will make Groudon and Garchomp particularly difficult to handle, thus it is best to either destroy them before using Gravity. Like Charm, both Wish and Seismic Toss are illegal with Gravity.

Blissey has some alternate attacks at its disposal that can be useful in certain situations. When under the support of Groudon's everlasting sun, Flamethrower becomes a viable option to KO or cripple several common Steel-types that may switch into Blissey. Forretress is always OHKOed by Flamethrower after Stealth Rock, while only extremely specially defensive Scizor will survive Flamethrower after Stealth Rock damage. Blissey's Flamethrower will do a massive 76% - 90% to Lucario in the sun, while Metagross is always 2HKOed after Stealth Rock damage. Grass Knot may normally be an inferior option to Thunder on Calm Mind , but it has two main selling points. Grass Knot is always a 100% accurate attack, regardless of the weather, which is particularly useful considering the fact that many Ubers are heavy enough to be hit by a 120 Base Power Grass Knot. Secondly, Groudon is hit quite hard by it. Finally, Counter can be a good option on Blissey, even in Ubers. Several Pokemon, such as Palkia and Dialga, will use mixed sets just to defeat Blissey. If Blissey predicts a physical attack from either of them, and uses Counter, Palkia and Dialga are sure to be KOed. Also, note that defensive Groudon, Choice Scarf Garchomp, and Scizor that lack Superpower are also unable to OHKO Blissey, meaning that Blissey will be able to gain a surprise kill on them if she is healthy.

[EVs]
In the Uber tier, Blissey should use 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD with a Calm nature on all sets without Ice Beam, as Blissey needs to be extra durable to take the powerful assaults of Ubers. If using Ice Beam, use the EV spread of 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD, because this will allow Blissey to OHKO a 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza 100% of the time after it switches into Stealth Rock.

[Opinion]
Even in the Uber tier, there is no Pokémon that can do Blissey’s job better. Although there are several Pokémon that can break through Blissey’s Special Defenses in Ubers, don’t let that discourage you from using Blissey, as it is still the best general special wall in the Uber metagame. Almost any team will appreciate Blissey’s ability to sponge special assaults, especially stall teams.

[Counters]
In the Uber tier, Bulk Up Dialga is, without a doubt, the best Blissey counter. It is immune to Toxic and can easily set up on Blissey. Powerful physical attackers such as Garchomp, Groudon, and Rayquaza can make Blissey’s life a living hell. However, Ice Beam will do massive damage to Garchomp and Rayquaza and none of them will like being hit by Toxic.

Many Pokémon in the Uber tier can surprise Blissey with mixed attacking sets, such as Mewtwo, Darkrai, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina-O. Dialga in particular can be a problem, as it is immune to Toxic.

If Blissey lacks Calm Mind or Psych Up, Kyogre and Giratina can use a combination of Sleep Talk, Rest, and Calm Mind to easily set up on Blissey. Kyogre, Mewtwo, and Giratina-O can also use Substitute and Calm Mind to beat her. In the rain, Manaphy can easily set up Tail Glow on non-Calm Mind Blissey and 2HKO it with a +2 Surf. Choice Specs Kyogre also has the capability of 2HKOing Blissey with Water Spout.

Wobbuffet can switch into Blissey and use Tickle several times to lower its Defense. After this, Blissey will be KOed by Pursuit from Scizor or Tyranitar. Wobbuffet can also use Encore on Blissey and switch in a sweeper such as Lucario or Giratina-O to take advantage of the free set up time.

Stellar · Jun 16, 2009

Theorymon said:
[SET]
name: WishBliss
move 1: Wish
move 2: Protect / Softboiled
move 3: Flamethrower / Ice Beam
move 4: Toxic
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 252 Def / 80 SpA / 176 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Even with incredible walls such as Giratina and Lugia in the Uber tier, Blissey is still the number one Special wall to use. Blissey is the only Pokémon in Ubers that can wall such a wide variety of Special threats, such as Latias, Latios (as long as it lacks Refresh or Safeguard), Palkia, Dialga (provided they aren’t mixed), and Calm Mind Lugia. As far as attacking options go, Seismic Toss is generally the most reliable as it will do a decent amount of damage to Pokémon like Kyogre and Latias who would otherwise laugh at Ice Beam. Seismic Toss also allows Blissey to have a better chance of beating Mewtwo that have Calm Mind and Taunt, which Ice Beam can not accomplish. Ice Beam is still a good option though, as three common Blissey switch ins (Groudon, Garchomp, and Rayquaza) are hit super effectively by it. With 84 SpA EVs, Garchomp takes a massive 76.19% - 90.76% from Ice Beam when it switches in, while a 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza will be OHKOed after switching into Stealth Rock. In emergencies, you can leave Blissey in on Rayquaza, because the opponent may attempt to set up a Dragon Dance or Swords Dance. When using Seismic Toss, use the EV spread 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD, as there is no reason to invest in Special Attack when using Seismic Toss. Toxic complements this set well, as the combination of Protect and Wish can very easily stall Pokémon to death. Toxic is a good choice to use if you predict the opponent is going to switch, as several threats to Blissey (such as Kyogre, Darkrai, and Giratina-O) become much easier to handle when badly poisoned. Thunder Wave can be used over Toxic, but make sure you use it only with Seismic Toss. This is because without Seismic Toss or Toxic, Latias can set up Calm Minds with no problem and eventually KO Blissey. Flamethrower is also an option over Seismic Toss and Ice Beam. With the support of Groudon’s sun, you can OHKO Forretress and Scizor.

While Blissey may still be the queen of special walling in Ubers, some of the Special Attackers of Ubers are so powerful that they can break through her. A good example of this is Kyogre, which has several sets that can make Blissey run for cover. Choice Specs Kyogre is so absurdly powerful that it can 2HKO Blissey with Water Spout as long as Kyogre has at least 80% of its health. Kyogre can also uses 252 HP EVs to make 101 HP Substitutes, which means that Kyogre can set up with Calm Mind while Blissey is forced to use Seismic Toss twice to break the Substitutes. After 3 Calm Minds, a Modest Kyogre will always 2HKO Blissey with Surf, even when accounting for Leftovers recovery. Finally, Kyogre may carry the combination of Sleep Talk and Rest to either set up Calm Mind on Blissey or to outstall her. To solve the problems Blissey has with Kyogre, Latias should always be considered. Latias can switch into Choice Specs Kyogre's Water Spout, and use Thunder to weaken its power by reducing Kyogre's HP. Latias can use Calm Mind as the other Kyogre variants attempt to set up, and will usually beat Kyogre. The combination of Latias and Blissey will wall every single Kyogre set, thus Latias is an excellent teammate for Wish Blissey. Palkia is another good option if you only need a Pokémon to beat Choice Specs Kyogre. Something to note is that once Kyogre has switched into Stealth Rock twice, it will no longer be able to 2HKO Blissey with a Choice Specs Water Spout, thus Blissey will be able to wall it with ease as long as there are no critical hits. Manaphy can also cause serious issues for Blissey when it’s raining. Manaphy will be immune to status and can set up Tail Glow or Rest off the damage it has taken and wake up immediately afterwards. After two Tail Glows and Life Orb, Manaphy will always 2HKO Blissey with Surf. To beat Manaphy, once again, Latias makes an excellent teammate, as it OHKOes Manaphy with Thunder after Stealth Rock and will win a Calm Mind war if Manaphy attempts that.

Nasty Plot Darkrai can cause some serious problems for Blissey. After one use of Nasty Plot, Darkrai will 2HKO Blissey with Focus Blast. To make matters even worse, Darkrai can carry Substitute to block Thunder Wave and Toxic. Darkrai can also put Blissey to sleep with Dark Void, not only giving it the opportunity to set up, but also dealing damage with its ability Bad Dreams. Generally, the best way to deal with Darkrai is to predict a Dark Void and send in a sleep absorber (usually carrying Sleep Talk, but this is not required). Then, switch to a Pokémon that can revenge kill Darkrai (such as Life Orb Mewtwo, Choice Scarf Palkia, Choice Specs Shaymin-S, etc.). Something to note is if a Choice Scarf Darkrai switches into Blissey, it is likely that it is carrying Trick, thus it is best to switch to a Choice Scarf user of your own or a Pokémon that does not mind Choice Scarf.

Mewtwo can also pose a problem for Blissey due to Taunt and Substitute. Mewtwo can make 101 HP Substitutes and use Calm Mind to beat Blissey in a similar way Kyogre can. Mewtwo also has the option of using Taunt and Recover to outstall Blissey thanks to Pressure. In a similar manner, Mew can Taunt Blissey and use the time to set up and Baton Pass to a powerful Pokémon such as Groudon. To stop Substitute Mewtwo and Baton Pass Mew, Scizor makes an excellent choice. Mewtwo can be hit hard by Pursuit even if it stays in, while Mew will get its Reflect and Light Screen broken by Brick Break and be OHKOed by U-turn. Choice Specs Kyogre also works well, as it can switch into a defensive Mewtwo with ease and threaten to OHKO with Water Spout, while Mew will also take massive damage.

Giratina can easily outstall Blissey due to is Pressure ability and Ghost-typing. Giratina can also use a combination of Sleep Talk, Rest, and Calm Mind to set up on Blissey . Although it’s very rare, Latias and Latios can beat Blissey in a similar manner with Calm Mind, Recover, and either Refresh or Safeguard. Generally, the best answer to Giratina is Bulk Up Dialga. Dialga can easily set up Bulk Up as Giratina uses Will-O-Wisp and then use Rest to restore its health. After 3 uses of Bulk Up, Dialga will always OHKO Giratina with Outrage. For Calm Mind Giratina, Tyranitar can switch in and cause a serious amount of damage with a Choice Banded Crunch. For Latias and Latios, Tyranitar, Scizor, and Metagross can seriously damage them with Pursuit or their powerful STAB attacks.

If Giratina-O switches in on any move but Thunder Wave or Toxic it can pose a serious threat to not only Blissey, but also to the rest of the team. Blissey will have a difficult time breaking Giratina-O's Substitutes with Ice Beam. If Giratina-O uses Calm Mind, Blissey will no longer be able to break Giratina-O's Substitute, meaning that Giratina-O can continue to set up Calm Mind. After four uses of Calm Mind, Giratina-O is able to 2HKO Blissey with Dragon Pulse, and then threaten to sweep the rest of the team. To solve this issue, it is advisable to use a Careful Forretress with Light Screen and Payback. Forretress can switch into Giratina-O, use Light Screen to minimize the damage it takes, and then 4HKO Giratina-O with Payback. Forretress is also a huge help to Blissey due to Toxic Spikes. When Forretress sets up two layers of Toxic Spikes, several big threats to Blissey ,such as Darkrai, Choice Specs Kyogre, and Substitute Mewtwo, will become much easier to handle due to the constant damage from poison. If Forretress does not fit on your team, it is best to use Tyranitar, whose combination of Crunch and Sand Stream will make Giratina-O's life short.

Blissey is one of the few viable Wish passers in the Uber tier, thus many good teammates for Blissey are simply Pokémon that greatly appreciate Wish. A great example of this is Choice Specs Kyogre. While Choice Specs Kyogre is an insanely powerful wall breaker, Water Spout's power will unfortunately decrease as Kyogre's HP diminishes. With Blissey's Wish, Kyogre can once again have an extremely powerful Water Spout. In a similar manner, Choice Scarf Kyogre will also love Wish. Wobbuffet is another Pokémon that greatly benefits from Wish support. Wobbuffet, while bulky, will usually only be able to revenge kill one Pokémon per match. With Blissey's Wish, Wobbuffet will be able to stay in battle for a much longer period of time, thus Wobbuffet will become much more difficult for the opponent to handle. Forretress will also greatly appreciate the Wish support. This will allow Forretress to take more powerful hits from the likes of Garchomp, and thus allow Forretress more time to set up Spikes and Toxic Spikes. Finally, a defensive support Groudon will have a much easier time dealing with Lucario and Rayquaza thanks to Blissey's Wish support; as well as support Dialga having an easier time dealing with Palkia and Kyogre.

While Leftovers is generally the preferred option, Shed Shell is a very viable alternative in Ubers because of Wobbuffet. Wobbuffet can switch into Blissey, trap it, and use a combination of Tickle and Encore several times. After Wobbuffet is done Tickling Blissey, the opponent can switch to Scizor or Tyranitar to eliminate Blissey with Pursuit. Due to Wobbuffet's ability, Shadow Tag, this is completely unavoidable without the use of Shed Shell. Blissey can also become set up bait for Wobbuffet, which is very undesirable with the powerful sweepers roaming around in the Uber tier.

[SET]
name: Cleric
move 1: Aromatherapy
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunder Wave / Toxic
move 4: Softboiled
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
This set is also able to function well in the Uber tier with a few adjustments. If using Ice Beam, it is best to use the EV spread of 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD. The Special Attack EVs allow Blissey to always OHKO a 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza after it switches into Stealth Rock. If using Seismic Toss, it is best that you use the EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD.

Aromatherapy can be especially useful in Ubers for a number of reasons. Thunder is one of the most common moves used in the Uber tier, and with it comes a 30% chance of paralysis which can ruin the many sweepers of the tier. Darkrai is also a huge threat in Ubers, and can often cripple a Pokémon for the entire match with Dark Void due to the fast paced nature of Ubers. Thus, many of Aromatherapy Blissey's best teammates are powerful Pokémon that are very vulnerable to status effects. A good example of this is Wobbuffet. When Wobbuffet is using Encore to either destroy a wall with the Tickle + Pursuit user combination, or just trying to set up a sweeper, Wobbuffet will often get hit by Toxic or Will-O-Wisp, cutting down its survivability. Blissey's Aromatherapy can remove Wobbuffet's status affliction, allowing Wobbuffet to do its job of removing Choice Scarf Pokémon more easily. Another good teammate is a Quiet mixed Dialga. While mixed Dialga will easily destroy Giratina with Draco Meteor, Giratina can use Will-O-Wisp to destroy Dialga's chances of breaking through Latias and Blissey. With your own Blissey's Aromatherapy, Dialga can once again be a powerful wall breaker. Finally, Lugia works very well with this particular Blissey. This is because Lugia, when trying to beat Groudon, can often be hit by Thunder Wave and Toxic, meaning Lugia will be unable to harm the team with the combination of Whirlwind and entry hazards for much longer. Thanks to Blissey's Aromatherapy, Lugia can once again wear down teams with Whirlwind. Generally, Aromatherapy Blissey does very well with sweepers that can be crippled by Paralysis and Burn.

[SET]
name: CMBliss
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Softboiled
item: Leftovers
nature: Bold / Modest
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]
With a few adjustments, Calm Mind Blissey can work very well in Ubers. Once again, Blissey should use a Calm Nature with an EV spread of 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD to OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock. Thunder should also be used in place of Thunderbolt, mainly due to its use with the rain support Kyogre gives Blissey making Thunder 100% accurate, its higher base power, and its 30% chance of paralysis. While Serene Grace is most certainly a worthy option (especially with a 60% chance of paralysis with Thunder), Natural Cure is usually preferred because without it, Blissey will be crippled by Toxic (and Blissey is also one of the few reliable users of Aromatherapy / Heal Bell in the Uber tier).

One of the biggest selling points of Calm Mind Blissey in Ubers is the ability to beat certain threats that Wish Blissey and Aromatherapy Blissey would normally lose to. For example, Calm Mind Blissey can boost against Giratina-O and eventually destroy it with Ice Beam. Another good example is Choice Specs Kyogre. If Kyogre switches on Blissey as it uses Calm Mind, Kyogre will be 2HKOed by Thunder after Stealth Rock. Thus, Kyogre will no longer pose a threat to Blissey with its weakened Water Spout. Blissey will also beat Calm Mind and Substitute Kyogre by Calm Minding along with them, with Blissey being able to easily recover its health and thus beat Kyogre with Thunder. Giratina that lack Calm Mind are also beaten by Calm Mind Blissey, because even Giratina's Dragon Claw will only do 31% max to Blissey (even Outrage only does 46% maximum). Blissey requires three Calm Minds to 2HKO a 248 HP / 8 SpD Giratina. If Manaphy switches in on Blissey it will lose. This is because Blissey can use Calm Mind as Manaphy sets up Tail Glow. Even a +6 Manaphy will be unable to 2HKO Blissey with Surf in the rain after Blissey has used Calm Mind 3 times. Meanwhile, a +3 Blissey will be able to OHKO Manaphy with Thunder. Substitute Mewtwo with Calm Mind and Latias or Latios with Calm Mind and Refresh or Safeguard will lose to Blissey in a way like Calm Mind Kyogre.

Calm Mind Blissey will struggle with Calm Mind Kyogre and Calm Mind Giratina that have Rest and Sleep Talk, as they will be able to outstall Blissey unless it gets a critical hit. Additionally, any Pokémon that has Roar or Whirlwind along with Calm Mind can phaze Blissey away, and threaten to sweep. The best example of this is Calm Mind Lugia. To foil Kyogre's plans, once again Latias is easily the best answer, as Kyogre will do little damage to Latias with Surf, while Latias has no problems setting up Calm Mind on it. For Calm Mind Giratina, Bulk Up Dialga can switch in. While a +4 Dragon Pulse will do massive damage to Dialga, a +3 Outrage will always OHKO Giratina. Choice Band Dialga can also beat Giratina with Outrage. Choice Band Tyranitar will also receive minimal damage thanks to the Special Defense boost Sandstream grants it, and can inflict large amounts of damage to Giratina with a Choice Banded Crunch. Tyranitar can also Taunt both Lugia and Giratina and threaten to set up a sweep with Dragon Dance. Support Dialga can also take care of Calm Mind Lugia by crippling it with Toxic. Finally, Mewtwo that have Taunt and Calm Mind can easily set up on Blissey. Metagross and Scizor can usually deal with this variant of Mewtwo, as they often lack Fire attacks.

Psych Up can go over Calm Mind and has several pros and cons. With Psych Up, Blissey can copy stat boosts from Kyogre or Latias that have gotten a large amount of Calm Minds and stop their sweep. However, this comes at the cost of losing to Choice Specs Kyogre, Giratina, and Tail Glow Manaphy in the rain. To beat Kyogre and Manaphy, Latias is once again the best choice, while Bulk up Dialga or Choice Specs Dialga will annihilate Giratina. As always, Shed Shell is a very viable option as it allows Blissey to escape death by Wobbuffet.

[EVs]
In the Uber tier, Blissey should use 4 HP/ 252 Def / 252 SpD with a Calm nature on all sets without Ice Beam, as Blissey needs to be extra durable to take the powerful assaults of Ubers. If using Ice Beam, use the EV spread of 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD, because this will allow Blissey to OHKO a 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza 100% of the time after it switches into Stealth Rock.

[Team Options]
When using Blissey in Ubers, Forretress should always be considered for the purpose of laying down Toxic Spikes and Spikes. This is because Blissey will force a lot of switches on the opponent’s side due to many Uber Pokémon focusing on Special Attacking. Toxic Spikes in particular are a huge help to Blissey, as they will wear down Pokémon such as Choice Specs Kyogre, Mewtwo, Garchomp, and Groudon; all of which are problems for Blissey. Stealth Rock can also be useful for the same reasons. Although Blissey can use Stealth Rock herself, it is better to either have Dialga or Groudon lay down Stealth Rock.

Many teams rely on revenge killing their opponents with powerful Special Attacks in order to deal with certain threats. For example, many teams count on Choice Scarf Palkia to OHKO Darkrai with Draco Meteor. Blissey can work very well with Darkrai in this case. Blissey can easily switch into the incoming Draco Meteor and use the time to either status the next switch in or switch to another Pokémon that takes advantage of the incoming physical attacker. In a similar manner, Blissey can also partner well with Garchomp, Rayquaza, and Groudon. Many teams use Lugia to stop all three, and Blissey has no problems with switching into Lugia’s Ice Beam. Blissey can then threaten to cripple Lugia or the next switch in with Toxic.

Much like OU, Blissey’s biggest problem in Ubers are powerful physical attackers that can take advantage of Blissey’s meager base 10 Defense. Garchomp can switch into Blissey while it is using anything but Toxic and Ice Beam, and threaten to do a huge amount of damage with STAB Outrage. Groudon can also switch in and threaten to do huge amounts of damage with STAB Earthquake. Rayquaza, although loathing Thunder Wave and being KOed by Ice Beam, can threaten to either OHKO Blissey with Outrage or set up a sweep. Although most commonly seen as a Special Attacker, Dialga may also use Bulk Up which causes some serious problems for Blissey. Finally, several threats in OU such as Scizor, Tyranitar, Metagross, and Lucario are still big issues for Blissey in Ubers. Lugia can make an excellent teammate because of these threats. Lugia can handle Rayquaza, Bulk Up Dialga, Groudon, Metagross, Lucario, and Scizor thanks to its wonderful Defense stat and can OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock. Lugia can use Reflect and Whirlwind to keep the other physical attackers at bay. Reflect itself can aid Blissey in taking U-turn from Scizor and will let Blissey survive Pursuit from Pokémon such as Metagross and Tyranitar as well. Be warned though, while Bold Lugia can handle Choice Scarf Garchomp, it will have trouble dealing with Swords Dance Garchomp. If Swords Dance Garchomp is particularly troubling for your team, make sure Lugia is Timid with an EV spread of 252 HP / 66 Def / 192 Spe. This allows Lugia to outspeed a Jolly Garchomp, and set up Reflect before Garchomp can destroy Lugia with a boosted Stone Edge. Groudon is another great teammate for Blissey. Groudon, with its massive Attack and Defense stats, will easily scare off Tyranitar and Metagross with STAB Earthquake. When using an Impish Groudon, Lucario will fail to OHKO it with a +2 Close Combat, while Groudon will easily OHKO back with Earthquake. Finally, Groudon can deal massive damage to Bulk Up Dialga with STAB, super effective Earthquake. Giratina is another good choice as a teammate for Blissey. Giratina can use Will-O-Wisp on Metagross, Scizor, Groudon and Lucario, ruining their ability to sweep. Much like OU, Skarmory is still an excellent partner for Blissey in Ubers. Skarmory can switch into Garchomp, Scizor, Metagross, and Groudon that lack Fire Punch, and set up Spikes. If any of these foes dares to set up, Skarmory can easily use Whirlwind to make their efforts futile. If one would prefer a more offensive way to deal with these threats, Choice Scarf Shaymin-S can outspeed Groudon even after it uses Rock Polish and OHKO it with Seed Flare. Choice Scarf Dialga can revenge kill Swords Dance Rayquaza, Lucario, and Choice Band Garchomp, while Choice Scarf Palkia can revenge kill Dragon Dance Rayquaza.

Much like the OU tier, Blissey despises users of Leech Seed. The three main users of Leech Seed to watch out for in Ubers are Ludicolo, Jumpluff, and Shaymin-S. Ludicolo can use its Rain Dish ability to restore even more health, Jumpluff can use its Speed to Encore Blissey’s non-attacking moves, and Shaymin-S can threaten to flinch Blissey with Air Slash. The best way to deal with Jumpluff is to use Scizor. Scizor can use U-turn after Jumpluff uses Leech Seed, and then you can switch to Lugia to Ice Beam it. Ludicolo, if lacking Surf, can be set up one by Forretress. You can then use a phazer such as Lugia or Skarmory to force a switch, meaning Ludicolo will be crippled by Toxic Spikes on the next switch in. Finally, Shaymin-S should be dealt with by Choice Scarf Dialga, who sports a 4x resistance to Seed Flare, and can OHKO Shaymin-S with Draco Meteor. Lugia and Skarmory can also Whirlwind Shaymin-S away, forcing it to take more damage from Stealth Rock on the next switch in.

In the Uber tier, many Special Attackers such as Mewtwo, Darkrai, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina-O will used mixed sets with the main purpose of beating Blissey. A good strategy against this is to use Protect while these Pokémon attempt to beat Blissey, which can reveal whether they are mixed or not. Mixed Darkrai will be effectively handled by Forretress and Scizor if it lacks Hidden Power Fire, while Darkrai that lack Thunder will be destroyed by Kyogre. Palkia can be much more difficult to handle, as it has no true counter. Palkia not only has the capability of using normal mixed sets, but can also use the combination of Substitute and Focus Punch to destroy Blissey. If Palkia attempts to use Aqua Tail on Blissey, you can switch Latias into it, and threaten to OHKO Palkia with Dragon Pulse. Be warned though, as Palkia may also carry Outrage with the purpose of destroying Latias switch ins. Garchomp, although unable to switch into Palkia, is able to revenge kill it. A Choice Scarf Metagross can switch into Palkia’s physical assaults and then use Explosion on it. Mixed Dialga can also pose a threat for Blissey, because either Outrage or Brick Break can 2HKO it. Groudon can switch into Dialga’s Outrage or Brick Break, and threaten devastation with Earthquake. Mixed Giratina-O is generally beaten by Scizor if it's raining, as then Hidden Power Fire will not OHKO Scizor, while Scizor can wear down Giratina-O with Pursuit and Roost. Mewtwo can be particularly difficult to beat if it is running a mixed set, because Mewtwo can use Selfdestruct to destroy one of your Pokémon. Usually, the best option against Mewtwo beyond Toxic Spikes is to use a faster Pokémon (such as Choice Scarf Darkrai, Choice Scarf Palkia, etc.) to kill Mewtwo before it kills you.

[Opinion]
Even in the Uber tier, there is no Pokémon that can do Blissey’s job better. Although there are several Pokémon that can break through Blissey’s Special Defenses in Ubers, don’t let that discourage you from using Blissey. Almost any team will appreciate Blissey’s ability to sponge special assaults, especially stall teams.

[Counters]
In the Uber tier, Bulk Up Dialga is, without a doubt, the best Blissey counter. Dialga is immune to Toxic and can easily set up on Blissey. Powerful physical attackers such as Garchomp, Groudon, and Rayquaza can make Blissey’s life a living hell. However, Ice Beam will do massive damage to Garchomp and Rayquaza and none of them will like being hit by Toxic.

Many Pokémon in the Uber tier can surprise Blissey with mixed attacking sets, such as Mewtwo, Darkrai, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina-O. Dialga in particular can be a problem, as it is immune to Toxic.

If Blissey lacks Calm Mind or Psych Up, Kyogre and Giratina can use a combination of Sleep Talk, Rest, and Calm Mind to easily set up on Blissey. Kyogre, Mewtwo, and Giratina-O can also use Substitute and Calm Mind to beat Blissey. In the rain, Manaphy can easily set up Tail Glow on non-Calm Mind Blissey and 2HKO it with a +2 Surf. Choice Specs Kyogre also has the capability of 2HKOing Blissey with Water Spout.

Wobbuffet can switch into Blissey and use Tickle several times to lower its Defense. After this, Blissey will be KOed by Pursuit from Scizor or Tyranitar. Wobbuffet can also use Encore on Blissey and switch in a sweeper such as Lucario or Giratina-O to take advantage of the free set up time.

Your main problem is comma splicing. You don't have to use a comma after every single instance of the word 'and'. You also seem to double (sometimes triple) space between words. Other than a few capitalization errors and word misuse (infliction instead of affliction), the write up was good.

Caelum · Jun 16, 2009

Is it just me or does this seem like a lot of material for just commentary on Blissey's status in ubers. It may seem like a dumb concern (and maybe it is), but just thought I'd mention it.

Theorymon · Jun 16, 2009

Thank You so much Stellar, that was a huge help!

Caelum said:
Is it just me or does this seem like a lot of material for just commentary on Blissey's status in ubers. It may seem like a dumb concern (and maybe it is), but just thought I'd mention it.

Well, I know its a bit long, but I personally feel that Blissey needs this much material, simply because Blissey is such an important Pokemon in the Uber tier. There is no other Pokemon in Ubers that can do Blissey's job better, and it is a staple on Uber stall teams. Thus, I feel that Blissey desrves this much content geared twords Ubers.

jrrrrrrr · Jun 16, 2009

Caelum said:
Is it just me or does this seem like a lot of material for just commentary on Blissey's status in ubers. It may seem like a dumb concern (and maybe it is), but just thought I'd mention it.

This is a perfectly legitimate concern. The Blissey update that is currently on site completely ignores the fact that Blissey is one of the most dominant forces in the Uber tier, and is the only thing making Uber Stall possible.

Idk what our precedents are, but I think that if a Pokemon can work extremely well in the tier above it, the analysis should represent that. With that said, I think we just need to find a way to incorporate this incredibly detailed and insightful look into Blissey's Uber metagame talents with the already excellent Blissey OU analysis.

What's here is great, but idk how to mix it into what we currently have. :(

Darkmalice · Jun 17, 2009

[Team Options]
When using Blissey in Ubers, Forretress should always be considered for the purpose of laying down Toxic Spikes and Spikes. This is because Blissey will force a lot of switches on the opponent’s side due to many Uber Pokémon focusing on Special Attacking. Toxic Spikes in particular are a huge help to Blissey, as they will wear down Pokémon such as Choice Specs Kyogre, Mewtwo, Garchomp, and Groudon; all of which are problems for Blissey. Stealth Rock can also be useful for the same reasons. Although Blissey can use Stealth Rock herself, it is better to either have Dialga or Groudon lay down Stealth Rock.

Why would Dialga or Groudon be better than laying down Stealth Rock than any other Stealth Rock user? I would just mention SR is useful, unless you can quickly say why those two pokes are better than any other SR user. Actually, I don't know why Deoxys-S and Deoxys-D aren't mentioned as a good teammate. If they get SR and one layer of Spikes up, SpecsOgre won't be able to 2HKO Blissey anymore.

Also,

[SET]
name: Uber Cleric
move 1: Aromatherapy
move 2: Seismic Toss / Ice Beam
move 3: Toxic / Toxic
move 4: Softboiled
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD

Btw, nice to see that someone took up the duty of writing an Uber analysis for Blissey... finally!

Theorymon · Jul 19, 2009

I am going to add an Other Options section soon, among other things. Criticism is welcome!

.//enigma · Jul 19, 2009

Just a little nitpick here, but why use 252 DEF EVs in Uber? Wouldn't it be more sensible to place some in HP to take less damage (if possible, enough EVs to not be 2HKOd by SpecsOgre)? DEF EVs don't do much in Ubers, as there are a lot more hard hitters.

Garganator · Jul 19, 2009

Just a little nitpick here, but why use 252 DEF EVs in Uber? Wouldn't it be more sensible to place some in HP to take less damage (if possible, enough EVs to not be 2HKOd by SpecsOgre)? DEF EVs don't do much in Ubers, as there are a lot more hard hitters.

In Ubers Pursuit users still exist, and without full defense investment something like Metagross, Scizor or Tyranitar would easily OHKO or dent her that much, that Blissey would only end as death fodder later. And with those investment you can handle some weaker physical attacks with her gargantuan HP stat. So yeah, defense EVs are still usefull.

dr.shoe · Jul 21, 2009

Those defense EVs are definitely useful.

CREAM_93 · Jul 23, 2009

What's here is great, but idk how to mix it into what we currently have. :(

well why dont we just put a subheading above each analysis for team options and opinion for uber and OU just like we did for latias? and i completely agree with the above opinions that it should be implemented.

as for the write up itself it all looks good to me theorymon :3

_Flygon_ · Jul 23, 2009

Giratina that lack Calm Mind are also beaten by Calm Mind Blissey, because even Giratina's Dragon Claw will only do 31% max to Blissey (even Outrage only does 46% maximum).

this sounds a bit odd (twice "even")

otherwise great job

SlottedPig · Jul 23, 2009

Minor nitpick:

Theorymon said:
Ludicolo, if lacking Surf, can be set up one by Forretress.

Should be:

Ludicolo, if lacking Surf, can be set up on by Forretress.

twash · Jul 24, 2009

Grass Knot is an underrated option on Calm Mind Blissey (over Thunder). Grass Knot hits Groudon harder than Ice Beam, also hitting Tyranitar for more damage. The 30% paralysis rate loss hurts, but Blissey can survive without it and the extra damage output in certain situations can really help her due to her low damage output in Ubers. A lot of the Uber Pokémon are heavy anyway, and will often hit for either 100 or 120 base power.

Again, the paralysis chance loss really hurts but Grass Knot is helpful in a couple of extreme situations and deserves a mention, at least.

Theorymon · Aug 12, 2009

I have added Other Options, a way to beat Modest Choice Specs Shaymin-S, and a mention of Choice Scarf Jirachi as a teammate. This may need a final proofreading due to the additions, but otherwise I think the Uber Blissey analysis is now done!

Xia · Aug 12, 2009

Since it's the most recent section to be added, I went ahead and proofread it for any errors I saw.
changes

Other Options:

Blissey has a bundle of other support moves for use in Ubers. Blissey is one of the few usable Pokemon in Ubers that has access to Stealth Rock. While Blissey is often better off using other support moves besides Stealth Rock, it is a viable move if no other Pokemon on your team can set it up. Light Screen may seem like an odd choice on Blissey, but it can be helpful for not only support the rest of your team, but will also make sure that Choice Specs Kyogre will no longer be able to 2HKO Blissey while Light Screen lasts. Blissey can use Sing to put would be counters to sleep, but note the Sing only has a 55% chance of hitting the opponent. Snatch can be used to steal Reflects, Light Screens, stat ups, and other support moves, but many users of such moves such as Mewtwo can easily use Taunt to shut down that strategy, in addition to Blissey often being better off using Calm Mind herself rather then stealing Calm Minds. Rest is almost always an inferior option to Softboiled or Wish, but it can work well with Natural Cure, allowing Blissey to be relativity unharmed by Toxic Spikes, and will allow Blissey to out stall opposing Blissey. Skill Swap may seem silly on Blissey, but it can be used in conjunction with Toxic to defeat Wobbuffet switch-ins, or to simply escape from Wobbuffet's grip. Be warned, several Pokemon will greatly appreciate either of Blissey's abilities. Copy Cat may seem like a strange option on Blissey, but it can be useful in certain situations. For example, it can allow Blissey to use Spikes or Toxic Spikes on Forretress as it uses them. If Forretress attempts to Rapid Spin, you can either roast it with Flamethrower (provided that its sunny), or Copy Cat Rapid Spin to get rid of the opponents entry hazards. Copy Cat can also allow Blissey to defeat Calm Mind Giratina-O and Calm Mind Kyogre that lack Rest. Note, however, that Copy Cat is illegal with Seismic Toss and Wish.

Charm can be used to soften physical attackers attempting to prey on Blissey after a switch in. Due to Charm, mixed Palkia (barring a Focus Punch) and Dialga will no longer be able to get past Blissey beyond scoring a critical hit, while Groudon and Garchomp will only have a small chance to 2HKO Blissey with a Choice Banded Earthquake and Outrage respectively! Note that both Garchomp and Groudon have access to Swords Dance, thus it is best to still have Pokemon that can defeat both. While an Adamant Life Orb Rayquaza can still 2HKO Blissey with Outrage after being hit by Charm, you can OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock and Charm (provided you have 84 SpA EVs), thus defeating a Pokemon Blissey is normally greatly troubled by. Charm has the potential to cause a large amount of switches, thus it is best to pair Charm Blissey with users of entry hazards (such as Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes). Note that both Wish and Seismic Toss are illegal to use with Charm.

Blissey has access to Gravity, a rare but useful five-turn move. Gravity will allow both Groudon and Garchomp to freely use Earthquake, as Gravity eliminates the immunity Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with the Levitate ability for five turns. Gravity will also eliminate the immunity floating Pokemon enjoy to Spikes and Toxic Spikes, thus meaning that Gravity Blissey will greatly benefit Forretress and Skarmory's Spikes (and Toxic Spikes in Forretress' case) laying abilities. Finally, Gravity will lower the evasion of all Pokemon by 2 stages, meaning that any move that has at least 60% accuracy will always hit. This is especially great for Darkrai, who must often use the 70% accurate Focus Blast and the 80% accurate Dark Void. Blissey's Sing will also hit 92% of the time under Gravity. There is one potentially fatal flaw with Gravity, and it is that the opponent can also take advantage of Gravity's effects. This will make Groudon and Garchomp particularly difficult to handle, thus it is best to either destroy them before using Gravity. Like Charm, both Wish and Seismic Toss are illegal with Gravity.

Blissey has some alternate attacks at its disposal that can be useful in certain situations. When under the support of Groudon's everlasting sun, Flamethrower becomes a viable option to KO or cripple several common Steel-types that may switch into Blissey. Forretress is always OHKOed by Flamethrower after Stealth Rock, while only extremely specially defensive Scizor will survive Flamethrower after Stealth Rock damage. Blissey's Flamethrower will do a massive 76% - 90% to Lucario in the sun, while Metagross is always 2HKOed after Stealth Rock damage. Grass Knot may normally an inferior option to Thunder on Calm Mind Blissey, but it has two main selling points. Grass Knot is always a 100% accuracy attack, regardless of the weather, which is particularly useful considering the fact that many Ubers are heavy enough to be hit by a 120 Base Power Grass Knot. Secondly, Groudon is hit quite hard by it. Finally, Counter can be a good option on Blissey, even in Ubers. Several Pokemon, such as Palkia and Dialga, will use mixed sets just to defeat Blissey. If Blissey predicts a physical attack from either of them, and uses Counter, Palkia and Dialga are sure to be KOed. Also, note that defensive Groudon, Choice Scarf Garchomp, and Scizor that lack Superpower are also unable to OHKO Blissey, meaning that Blissey will be able to gain a surprise kill on them if it is healthy.

Theorymon · Aug 12, 2009

I made the Spelling corrections from above. Thanks Xia!

zzzzzzzzzzz · Aug 13, 2009

Blissey has access to Gravity, a rare but useful five-turn move. Gravity will allow both Groudon and Garchomp to freely use Earthquake, as Gravity eliminates the immunity Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with the Levitate ability for five turns. Gravity will also eliminate the immunity floating Pokemon enjoy to Spikes and Toxic Spikes, thus meaning that Gravity Blissey will greatly benefit Forretress and Skarmory's Spikes (and Toxic Spikes in Forretress' case) laying abilities. Finally, Gravity will lower the evasion of all Pokemon by 2 stages, meaning that any move that has at least 60% accuracy will always hit. This is especially great for Darkrai, who must often use the 70% accurate Focus Blast and the 80% accurate Dark Void. Blissey's Sing will also hit 92% of the time under Gravity. There is one potentially fatal flaw with Gravity, and it is that the opponent can also take advantage of Gravity's effects. This will make Groudon and Garchomp particularly difficult to handle, thus it is best to either destroy them before using Gravity. Like Charm, both Wish and Seismic Toss are illegal with Gravity.

I would add Mewtwo on the list because Focus Blast, Blizzard and Fire Blast get perfect accuracy, Thunder gets >80% in the sun and Dynamicpunch gets >80%. That can make LO set more deadly I guess

Polis4rule · Aug 13, 2009

If this is good, I'll add it to the Blissey revamp.

zzzzzzzzzzz · Aug 23, 2009

Even with incredible walls such as Giratina and Lugia in the Uber tier, Blissey is still the number one Special wall to use. Blissey is the only Pokémon in Ubers that can wall such a wide variety of Special threats, such as Latias, Latios (as long as it lacks Refresh or Safeguard), Palkia, Dialga (provided they aren’t mixed), and Calm Mind Lugia. As far as attacking options go, Seismic Toss is generally the most reliable as it will do a decent amount of damage to Pokémon like Kyogre and Latias who would otherwise laugh at Ice Beam. Seismic Toss also allows Blissey to have a better chance of beating Mewtwo that haS Calm Mind and Taunt, which Ice Beam can not accomplish. Ice Beam is still a good option though, as three common Blissey switch ins (Groudon, Garchomp, and Rayquaza) are hit super effectively by it. With 84 SpA EVs, Garchomp takes a massive 76.19% - 90.76% from Ice Beam when it switches in, while a 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza will be OHKOed after switching into Stealth Rock. In emergencies, you can leave Blissey in on Rayquaza, because the opponent may attempt to set up a Dragon Dance or Swords Dance. When using Seismic Toss, use the EV spread 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD, as there is no reason to invest in Special Attack when using Seismic Toss. Toxic complements this set well, as the combination of Protect and Wish can very easily stall Pokémon to death. Toxic is a good choice to use if you predict the opponent is going to switch, as several threats to Blissey (such as Kyogre, Darkrai, and Giratina-O) become much easier to handle when badly poisoned. Thunder Wave can be used over Toxic, but make sure you use it only with Seismic Toss. This is because without Seismic Toss or Toxic, Latias can set up Calm Minds with no problem and eventually KO Blissey.

While Blissey may still be the queen of special walling in Ubers, some of the Special Attackers of Ubers are so powerful that they can break through her. A good example of this is Kyogre, which has several sets that can make Blissey run for cover. Choice Specs Kyogre is so absurdly powerful that it can 2HKO Blissey with Water Spout as long as Kyogre has at least 80% of its health. Kyogre can also uses(REMOVE S) 252 HP EVs to make 101 HP Substitutes, which means that Kyogre can set up with Calm Mind while Blissey is forced to use Seismic Toss twice to break the Substitutes. After 3 Calm Minds, a Modest Kyogre will always 2HKO Blissey with Surf, even when accounting for Leftovers recovery. Finally, Kyogre may carry the combination of Sleep Talk and Rest to either set up Calm Mind on Blissey or to outstall her. To solve the problems Blissey has with Kyogre, Latias should always be considered. Latias can switch into Choice Specs Kyogre's Water Spout, and use Thunder to weaken its power by reducing Kyogre's HP. Latias can use Calm Mind as the other Kyogre variants attempt to set up, and will usually beat Kyogre. The combination of Latias and Blissey will wall every single Kyogre set, thus Latias is an excellent teammate for Wish Blissey. Palkia is another good option if you only need a Pokémon to beat Choice Specs Kyogre. Something to note is that once Kyogre has switched into Stealth Rock twice, it will no longer be able to 2HKO Blissey with a Choice Specs Water Spout, thus Blissey will be able to wall it with ease as long as there are no critical hits. Manaphy can also cause serious issues for Blissey when it’s raining. Manaphy will be immune to status and can set up Tail Glow or Rest off the damage it has taken and wake up immediately afterwards. After two Tail Glows, Manaphy will always 2HKO Blissey with Surf IF IT HAS LIFE ORB. To beat Manaphy, once again, Latias makes an excellent teammate, as it OHKOes Manaphy with Thunder after Stealth Rock and will win a Calm Mind war if Manaphy attempts that.

Nasty Plot Darkrai can cause some serious problems for Blissey. After A Nasty Plot, Darkrai will 2HKO Blissey with Focus Blast. To make matters even worse, Darkrai can carry Substitute to block Thunder Wave and Toxic. Darkrai can also put Blissey to sleep with Dark Void, not only giving it the opportunity to set up, but also dealing damage with its ability Bad Dreams(<--KIND OF WEIRD SENTENCE). Generally, the best way to deal with Darkrai is to predict a Dark Void and send in a sleep absorber (usually carrying Sleep Talk, but this is not required). Then, switch to a Pokémon that can revenge kill Darkrai (such as Life Orb Mewtwo, Choice Scarf Palkia, Choice Specs Shaymin-S, etc.). Something to note is if a Choice Scarf Darkrai switches into Blissey, it is likely that it is carrying Trick, thus it is best to switch to a Choice Scarf user of your own or a Pokémon that does not mind Choice Scarf.

Mewtwo can also pose a problem for Blissey due to Taunt and Substitute. Mewtwo can make 101 HP Substitutes and use Calm Mind to beat Blissey in a similar way Kyogre can. Mewtwo also has the option of using Taunt and Recover to outstall Blissey thanks to Pressure. In a similar manner, Mew can Taunt Blissey and use the time to set up and Baton Pass to a powerful Pokémon such as Groudon. To stop Substitute Mewtwo and Baton Pass Mew, Scizor makes an excellent choice. Mewtwo can be hit hard by Pursuit even if it stays in, while Mew will get its Reflect and Light Screen broken by Brick Break and be OHKOed by U-turn. Choice Specs Kyogre also works well, as it can switch into a defensive Mewtwo with ease and threaten to OHKO with Water Spout, while Mew will also take massive damage.

Giratina can easily outstall Blissey due to ITS Pressure ability and Ghost-typing. Giratina can also use a combination of Sleep Talk, Rest, and Calm Mind to set up on Blissey(REMOVE SPACE) . Although it’s very rare, Latias and Latios can beat Blissey in a similar manner with Calm Mind, Recover, and either Refresh or Safeguard. Generally, the best answer to Giratina is Bulk Up Dialga. Dialga can easily set up Bulk Up as Giratina uses Will-O-Wisp and then use Rest to restore its health. After THREE uses of Bulk Up, Dialga will always OHKO Giratina with Outrage. For Calm Mind Giratina, Tyranitar can switch in and cause a serious amount of damage with a Choice Band(REMOVE ED)ed Crunch. For Latias and Latios, Tyranitar, Scizor, and Metagross can seriously damage them with Pursuit or their powerful STAB attacks.

 If Giratina-O switches in on any move but Thunder Wave or Toxic it can pose a serious threat to not only Blissey, but also to the rest of the team. Blissey will have a difficult time breaking Giratina-O's Substitutes with Ice Beam. If Giratina-O uses Calm Mind, Blissey will no longer be able to break Giratina-O's Substitute, meaning that Giratina-O can continue to set up (REMOVE CALM MIND)Calm Mind. After four uses of Calm Mind, Giratina-O is able to 2HKO Blissey with Dragon Pulse, and then threaten to sweep the rest of the team. To solve this issue, it is advisable to use a Careful Forretress with Light Screen and Payback. Forretress can switch into Giratina-O, use Light Screen to minimize the damage it takes, and then 4HKO Giratina-O with Payback. Forretress is also a huge help to Blissey due to Toxic Spikes. When Forretress sets up two layers of Toxic Spikes, several big threats to Blissey ,such as Darkrai, Choice Specs Kyogre, and Substitute Mewtwo, will become much easier to handle due to the constant damage from poison. If Forretress does not fit on your team, it is best to use Tyranitar, whose combination of Crunch and Sand Stream will make Giratina-O's life short.

If Shaymin-S is using a Modest nature and Choice Specs, it can 2HKO Blissey with Seed Flare if it gets a Special Defense Drop. Choice Scarf Dialga, Choice Scarf Heatran, Choice Scarf Jirachi, and Choice Scarf Metagross are capable of switching into a Choice Specs Seed Flare, and can OHKO Shaymin-S with Draco Meteor (Dialga), Fire Blast (Dialga and Heatran), or Ice Punch (Jirachi and Metagross). Be warned, Choice Scarf Jirachi and Choice Scarf Metagross will still take a SIGNIFICANT amount of damage from repeated switch-ins to Seed Flare, despite their resistance. Skarmrory can take a Seed Flare due to its 4x resistance, and Whirlwind Shaymin-S away. Choice Band Scizor can also switch into Seed Flare, and threaten to 2HKO Shaymin-S with Bullet Punch. Latias and Lugia can survive two Seed Flares (although it will do a severe amount of damage to both if it gets a Special Defense drop), and threaten to OHKO Shaymin-S with Dragon Pulse and Ice Beam respectively after SHAYMIN-S TAKES Stealth Rock damage.

I will continue later.

While Leftovers is generally the preferred option, Shed Shell is a very viable alternative in Ubers because of Wobbuffet. Wobbuffet can switch into Blissey, trap it, and use a combination of Tickle and Encore several times. After Wobbuffet is done Tickling Blissey, the opponent can switch to Scizor or Tyranitar AND eliminate Blissey with Pursuit. Due to Wobbuffet's ability, Shadow Tag, this is completely unavoidable without the use of Shed Shell. Blissey can also become set up bait for Wobbuffet, which is very undesirable with the powerful sweepers roaming around in the Uber tier.

One of the biggest selling points of Calm Mind Blissey in Ubers is the ability to beat certain threats that Wish Blissey and Aromatherapy Blissey would normally lose to. For example, Calm Mind Blissey can boost against Giratina-O and eventually destroy it with Ice Beam. Another good example is Choice Specs Kyogre. If Kyogre switches on Blissey as it uses Calm Mind, Kyogre will be 2HKOed by Thunder after Stealth Rock. Thus, Kyogre will no longer pose a threat to Blissey with its weakened Wa......able to 2HKO Blissey with Surf in the rain after Blissey has used Calm Mind 3 times. Meanwhile, a +3 Blissey will be able to OHKO Manaphy with Thunder. Substitute Mewtwo with Calm Mind and Latias or Latios with Calm Mind and Refresh or Safeguard will lose to Blissey in a way like(REMOVE LIKE) Calm Mind Kyogre DOES.

Calm Mind Blissey will struggle with Calm Mind Kyogre and Calm Mind Giratina that have Rest and Sleep Talk, as they will be able to outstall Blissey unless it gets a critical hit. Additionally, any Pokémon that has Roar or Whirlwind along with Calm Mind can phaze Blissey away, and threaten to sweep. The best example of this is Calm Mind Lugia. To foil Kyogre's plans, once again Latias is easily the best answer, as Kyogre will do little damage to Latias with Surf, while Latias has no problems setting up Calm Mind on it. For Calm Mind Giratina, Bulk Up Dialga can switch in. While a +4 Dragon Pulse will do massive damage to Dialga, a +3 Outrage will always OHKO Giratina. Choice Band Dialga can also beat Giratina with Outrage. Choice Band Tyranitar will also receive minimal damage thanks to the Special Defense boost Sandstream grants it, and can inflict large amounts of damage to Giratina with a Choice Banded remove ed Crunch. Tyranitar can also Taunt both Lugia and Giratina and threaten to set up a sweep with Dragon Dance. Support Dialga can also take care of Calm Mind Lugia by crippling it with Toxic. Finally, Mewtwo that haS Taunt and Calm Mind can easily set up on Blissey. Metagross and Scizor can usually deal with this variant of Mewtwo, as IT often lackS Fire attacks.

In the Uber tier, many Special Attackers such as Mewtwo, Darkrai, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina-O will used(REMOVE D) mixed sets with the main purpose of beating Blissey. A good strategy against this is to use Protect while these Pokémon attempt to beat Blissey, which can reveal whether they are mixed or not. Mixed Darkrai will be effectively handled by Forretress and Scizor if it lacks Hidden Power Fire, while Darkrai that lackS Thunder will be destroyed by Kyogre. Palkia can be much more difficult to handle, as it has no true counter. Palkia not only has the capability of using normal mixed sets, but can also use the combination of Substitute and Focus Punch to destro..... with Dragon Pulse. Be warned though, as Palkia may also carry Outrage with the purpose of destroying Latias switch ins. Garchomp, although unable to switch into Palkia, is able to revenge kill it.

[Opinion]
<h4>Ubers</h4>
Even in the Uber tier, there is no Pokémon that can do Blissey’s job better. Although there are several Pokémon that can break through Blissey’s Special Defenses(REMOVE S) in Ubers, don’t let that discourage you from using Blissey, as it is still the best general Special wall in the Uber metagame. Almost any team will appreciate Blissey’s ability to sponge special assaults, especially stall teams.

In the Uber tier, Bulk Up Dialga is (REMOVE SPACE), without a doubt, the best Blissey counter. Dialga is immune to Toxic and can easily set up on Blissey. Powerful physical attackers such as Garchomp, Groudon, and Rayquaza can make Blissey’s life a living hell. However, Ice Beam will do massive damage to Garchomp and Rayquaza and none of them will like being hit by Toxic.

Wobbuffet can switch into Blissey and use Tickle several times to lower its Defense. After THAT, Blissey will be KOed by Pursuit from Scizor or Tyranitar. Wobbuffet can also use Encore on Blissey and switch in a sweeper such as Lucario or Giratina-O to take advantage of the free set up time.

my english is far from brilliant but I have marked everything what I found to be weird to me.

mtr · Aug 26, 2009

I think that everyone else has done a great job correcting grammar stuff, so I'll just give my insights:

...it is best to use Tyranitar, whose combination of Crunch and Sand Stream will make Giratina-O's life short.

Mention Aura Sphere here, and that using Tyranitar gives Scizor more opportunities to come in and cause trouble.

Skarmrory

Mispelled

Finally, Counter can be a good option on Blissey, even in Ubers. Several Pokemon, such as Palkia and Dialga, will use mixed sets just to defeat Blissey. If Blissey predicts a physical attack from either of them, and uses Counter, Palkia and Dialga are sure to be KOed. Also, note that defensive Groudon, Choice Scarf Garchomp, and Scizor that lack Superpower are also unable to OHKO Blissey, meaning that Blissey will be able to gain a surprise kill on them if it is healthy

Be sure to mention the downsides of Counter. It is pretty useless against Rayquaza, whereas Ice Beam or Toxic/Thunder Wave would not be.

I'll check the rest out later, but this is amazingly meticulous.

Fuzznip · Oct 30, 2009

Let's see what I can do...

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[SET]
name: Uber Wisher
move 1: Wish
move 2: Protect
move 3: Seismic Toss / Ice Beam
move 4: Toxic
item: Leftovers / Shed Shell
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Even with incredible walls such as Giratina and Lugia in the Uber tier, Blissey is still the number one special wall to use. Blissey is the only Pokémon in Ubers that can wall such a wide variety of special threats, such as Latias, Latios (as long as it lacks Refresh or Safeguard), Palkia, Dialga (provided they aren’t mixed), and Calm Mind Lugia. As far as attacking options go, Seismic Toss is generally the most reliable as it will do a decent amount of damage to Pokémon like Kyogre and Latias who would otherwise laugh at Ice Beam. Seismic Toss also allows Blissey to have a better chance of beating Mewtwo that have Calm Mind and Taunt, which Ice Beam can not accomplish. Ice Beam is still a good option though, as three common Blissey switch-ins (Groudon, Garchomp, and Rayquaza) are hit super effectively by it. With 84 SpA EVs, Garchomp takes a massive 76.19% - 90.76% from Ice Beam when it switches in, while a 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza will be OHKOed after switching into Stealth Rock. In emergencies, you can leave Blissey in on Rayquaza, because the opponent may attempt to set up a Dragon Dance or Swords Dance. When using Seismic Toss, use the EV spread 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD, as there is no reason to invest in Special Attack when using Seismic Toss it. Toxic complements this set well, as the combination of Protect and Wish can very easily stall Pokémon to death. Toxic is a good choice to use if you predict the opponent is going to switch, as several threats to Blissey (such as Kyogre, Darkrai, and Giratina-O) become much easier to handle when badly poisoned. Thunder Wave can be used over Toxic, but make sure you use it only with Seismic Toss. This is because without Seismic Toss or Toxic, Latias can set up Calm Minds with no problem and eventually KO Blissey. Although not recommend due to moveslot competition, Heal Bell can be used over Protect if your team needs both a status releaver and a user of Wish.

Blissey is one of the few viable Wish passers in the Uber tier, thus many good teammates for Blissey are simply Pokémon that greatly appreciate Wish. A great perfect (you already said "greatly") example of this is Choice Specs Kyogre. While Choice Specs Kyogre is an insanely powerful wall breaker, Water Spout's power will unfortunately decrease as Kyogre's HP diminishes. With Blissey's Wish, Kyogre can once again have a chance to have (it's not guaranteed that Kyogre will have a powerful Water Spot again)an extremely powerful Water Spout again. In a similar manner, Choice Scarf Kyogre will also love Wish. Wobbuffet is another Pokémon that greatly benefits from Wish support. Wobbuffet it, while being bulky, will usually only be able to revenge kill one Pokémon per match. With Blissey's Wish, Wobbuffet will be able to stay in battle for a much longer period of time, thus Wobbuffet will become making it much more difficult for the opponent to handle. Forretress will also greatly appreciate the Wish support Another Pokemon that benefits from Blissey's Wish is Forretress (just to change the wording, since you basically said that exact sentence for Wobbuffet). This will allow Forretress to take more powerful hits from the likes of Garchomp, and thus allow allowing it to have Forretress (you already said thus before, not too long ago) more time to set up Spikes and Toxic Spikes. Finally, a defensive support Groudon will have a much easier time dealing with Lucario and Rayquaza thanks to Blissey's Wish support; as well as support Dialga having an easier time dealing with Palkia and Kyogre.

While Blissey may still be the queen of special walling in Ubers, some of the special attackers of Ubers are so powerful that they can break through her. A good example of this is Kyogre, which has several sets that can make Blissey run for cover. Choice Specs Kyogre is so absurdly powerful that it can 2HKO Blissey with Water Spout, as long as Kyogre it has at least 80% of its health. Kyogre can also use 252 HP EVs to make 101 HP Substitutes, which means that Kyogre it can set up with Calm Mind while Blissey is forced to use Seismic Toss twice to break the Substitutes. After 3 three Calm Minds, a Modest Kyogre will always 2HKO Blissey with Surf, even when accounting for Leftovers recovery. Finally, Kyogre may carry the combination of Sleep Talk and Rest to either set up Calm Mind on Blissey or to outstall her. To solve the problems Blissey has with Kyogre, Latias should always be considered. Latias can switch into Choice Specs Kyogre's Water Spout, and use Thunder to weaken its power by reducing Kyogre's HP. Latias can use Calm Mind as the other Kyogre variants attempt to set up, and will usually beat Kyogre it. The combination of Latias and Blissey will wall every single Kyogre set, thus making Latias is an excellent teammate for Wish Blissey. Palkia is another good option if you only need a Pokémon to beat Choice Specs Kyogre. Something to note is that once Kyogre has switched into Stealth Rock twice, it will no longer be able to 2HKO Blissey with a Choice Specs Water Spout, thus Blissey will be able to wall it with ease as long as there are no critical hits. Manaphy can also cause serious issues for Blissey when it’s raining. Manaphy It will be immune to status and can set up Tail Glow or Rest off the damage it has taken and wake up immediately afterwards, thanks to its ability, Hydration. After two Tail Glows and Life Orb, Manaphy will always 2HKO Blissey with Surf. To beat Manaphy, once again, Latias once again makes an excellent teammate, as it OHKOes Manaphy it with Thunder after Stealth Rock and will win a Calm Mind war if Manaphy attempts that.

Nasty Plot Darkrai can cause some serious problems for Blissey. After one use of Nasty Plot, Darkrai will 2HKO Blissey with Focus Blast. To make matters even worse, Darkrai can carry Substitute to block Thunder Wave and Toxic. Darkrai It can also put Blissey to sleep with Dark Void, not only giving it the opportunity to set up, but also dealing damage with its ability, Bad Dreams. Generally, the best way to deal with Darkrai is to predict a Dark Void and send in a sleep absorber (usually carrying Sleep Talk, but this is not required). Then, switch to a Pokémon that can revenge kill Darkrai (such as Life Orb Mewtwo, Choice Scarf Palkia, Choice Specs Shaymin-S, etc.). Something to note is if a Choice Scarf Darkrai switches into Blissey, it is likely that it is carrying Trick, thus it is best to switch to a Choice Scarf user of your own or a Pokémon that does not mind being Tricked with a Choice Scarf.

Mewtwo can also pose a problem for Blissey, due to Taunt and Substitute. Mewtwo can make 101 HP Substitutes and use Calm Mind to beat Blissey in a similar way Kyogre can. Mewtwo It also has the option of using Taunt and Recover to PP outstall Blissey, thanks to Pressure. In a similar manner, Mew can Taunt Blissey and use the time to set up and Baton Pass to a powerful Pokémon such as Groudon. To stop Substitute Mewtwo and Baton Pass Mew, Scizor makes an excellent choice. Mewtwo can be hit hard by Pursuit even if it stays in, while Mew will get its Reflect and Light Screen broken by Brick Break and be OHKOed by U-turn. Choice Specs Kyogre also works well, as it can switch into a defensive Mewtwo with ease and threaten to OHKO with Water Spout, while Mew will also take massive damage.

Another problem for Blissey is Giratina as it can easily outstall Blissey due to its Pressure ability and Ghost-typing (changed the introduction sentence, since you are always starting off with "Pokemon x gives Blissey trouble"). Giratina can also use a combination of Sleep Talk, Rest, and Calm Mind to set up on Blissey. Although it’s very rare, Latias and Latios can beat Blissey in a similar manner with Calm Mind, Recover, and either Refresh or Safeguard. Generally, the best answer to Giratina is Bulk Up Dialga. Dialga can easily set up Bulk Up as Giratina uses Will-O-Wisp and then use Rest to restore its health. After 3 three uses of Bulk Up, Dialga will always OHKO Giratina with Outrage. For Calm Mind Giratina, Tyranitar can switch in and cause a serious amount of damage with a Choice Banded Crunch. For Latias and Latios, Tyranitar, Scizor, and Metagross can seriously damage penetrate (avoiding repetition) them with Pursuit or their powerful STAB attacks.

(_)If Giratina-O switches in on any move but Thunder Wave or Toxic, it can pose a serious threat to not only Blissey, but also to the rest of the team. Blissey will have a difficult time breaking Giratina-O's Substitutes with Ice Beam. If Giratina-O it uses Calm Mind, Blissey will no longer be able to break Giratina-O's Substitute, meaning that Giratina-O can continue to set up Calm Mind. After four uses of Calm Mind, Giratina-O is able to 2HKO Blissey with Dragon Pulse, and then threaten to sweep the rest of the your team. To solve this issue, it is advisable to use a Careful Forretress with Light Screen and Payback. Forretress can switch into Giratina-O, use Light Screen to minimize the damage it takes, and then 4HKO Giratina-O with Payback. Forretress It is also a huge help to Blissey, due to Toxic Spikes. When Forretress sets up two layers of Toxic Spikes, several big threats to Blissey, such as Darkrai, Choice Specs Kyogre, and Substitute Mewtwo, will become much easier to handle due to the constant damage from poison. If Forretress does not fit on your team, it is best to use Tyranitar, whose combination of Crunch and Sand Stream will make Giratina-O's life short.

If Shaymin-S is using a Modest nature and Choice Specs, it can 2HKO Blissey with Seed Flare if it gets a Special Defense drop. Choice Scarf Dialga, Choice Scarf Heatran, Choice Scarf Jirachi, and Choice Scarf Metagross are capable of switching into a Choice Specs Seed Flare, and can OHKO Shaymin-S with Draco Meteor (Dialga), Fire Blast (Dialga and Heatran), or Ice Punch (Jirachi and Metagross). Be warned, Choice Scarf Jirachi and Choice Scarf Metagross will still take a siginifcant amount of damage from repeated switch-ins to Seed Flare, despite their resistance. Skarmory can take a Seed Flare due to its 4x resistance, and Whirlwind Shaymin-S away. Choice Band Scizor can also switch into Seed Flare, and threaten to 2HKO Shaymin-S it with Bullet Punch. Latias and Lugia can survive two Seed Flares (although it will do a severe amount of damage to both if it gets a Special Defense drop), and threaten to OHKO Shaymin-S with Dragon Pulse and Ice Beam respectively after taking Stealth Rock damage. (can't Blissey use Ice Beam?)

While Leftovers is generally the preferred option, Shed Shell is a very viable alternative in Ubers because of Wobbuffet. Wobbuffet can switch into Blissey, trap it, and use a combination of Tickle and Encore several times. After Wobbuffet is done Tickling Blissey, the opponent can switch to Scizor or Tyranitar to eliminate Blissey with Pursuit. Due to Wobbuffet's ability, Shadow Tag, this is completely unavoidable without the use of Shed Shell. Blissey can also become set up bait for Wobbuffet, which is very undesirable with the powerful sweepers roaming around in the Uber tier.

[SET]
name: Ubers Softboiled
move 1: Softboiled
move 2: Seismic Toss / Ice Beam
move 3: Toxic / Thunder Wave
move 4: Ice Beam / Aromatherapy
item: Leftovers / Shed Shell
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
This set is very similar to Wish Blissey, but it forgoes the supportive nature of Wish and Protect in exchange for Softboiled, which frees up an extra moveslot for Blissey. The best two moves for this moveslot are Ice Beam or Aromatherapy. With the EV spread above, Blissey's Ice Beam is able to OHKO a Rayquaza with 4 Special Defense EVs 100% of the time after it takes Stealth Rock damage, thus making Blissey an effective Rayquaza lure.

Aromatherapy can be especially useful in Ubers for a number of reasons. Thunder is one of the most common moves used in the Uber tier, and with it comes a 30% chance of paralysis which can ruin the many sweepers of the tier. Darkrai is also a huge threat in Ubers, and can often cripple a Pokémon for the entire match with Dark Void due to the fast paced nature of Ubers. Thus, With that being said, (thus thus thus thus many of Aromatherapy Blissey's best teammates are powerful Pokémon that are very vulnerable to status effects. A good example of this is Wobbuffet. (I don't think Wobbuffet is "powerful") When Wobbuffet is using Encore to either destroy a wall with the Tickle + Pursuit user combination, or just trying to set up a sweeper, Wobbuffet will often get hit by Toxic or Will-O-Wisp, cutting down its survivability. Blissey's Aromatherapy can remove Wobbuffet's status affliction, allowing Wobbuffet to do its job of removing Choice Scarf Pokémon more easily. Another good teammate is a Quiet mixed Dialga. While mixed Dialga will easily destroy Giratina with Draco Meteor, Giratina can use Will-O-Wisp to destroy Dialga's chances of breaking through Latias and Blissey. With your own Blissey's Aromatherapy, Dialga can once again be a powerful wall breaker. Finally, Lugia works very well with this particular Blissey. This is because Lugia, when trying to beat Groudon, can often be hit by Thunder Wave and Toxic, meaning Lugia it will be unable to harm the team with the combination of Whirlwind and entry hazards for much longer. Thanks to Blissey's Aromatherapy, Lugia can once again wear down teams with Whirlwind. Generally, Aromatherapy Blissey does very well with sweepers that can be crippled by Paralysis and Burn.

This set will generally have the same issues Wish Blissey has, so refer to Wish Blissey's team options for how to beat its special attacking enemies.

[SET]
name: Uber Calm Minder
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunder
move 4: Softboiled
item: Leftovers / Shed Shell
nature: Calm
evs: 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
With a few adjustments, Calm Mind Blissey can work very well in Ubers. Once again, Blissey should use a Calm Nature with an EV spread of 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD to OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock. Thunder should also be used in place of Thunderbolt, mainly due to its use with the rain support Kyogre gives Blissey, making Thunder 100% accurate, its higher base power (that sentence didn't make sense to me) a powerful attack, and its a 30% chance to induce of paralysis. While Serene Grace is most certainly a worthy option (especially with a 60% chance of paralysis with Thunder), Natural Cure is usually preferred because without it, Blissey will be crippled by Toxic (and Blissey is also one of the few reliable users of Aromatherapy / Heal Bell in the Uber tier).

One of the biggest selling points of Calm Mind Blissey in Ubers is the ability to beat certain threats that Wish Blissey and Aromatherapy Blissey would normally lose to. For example, Calm Mind Blissey can boost against Giratina-O and eventually destroy it with Ice Beam. Another good example is Choice Specs Kyogre. If Kyogre switches on Blissey as it uses Calm Mind, Kyogre will be 2HKOed by Thunder after Stealth Rock. Thus, Kyogre will no longer pose a threat to Blissey with its weakened Water Spout. Blissey It will also beat Calm Mind and Substitute Kyogre by Calm Minding along with them it, with while Blissey being able to easily recover its health and thus beat Kyogre with Thunder. Giratina that lack Calm Mind are also beaten by Calm Mind Blissey, because Giratina's Dragon Claw will only do 31% max to Blissey (even Outrage only does 46% maximum). However, Blissey requires three Calm Minds to 2HKO a 248 HP / 8 SpD Giratina. If Manaphy switches in on Blissey it will also lose. This is because Blissey can use Calm Mind as Manaphy sets up Tail Glow. Even a +6 Manaphy will be unable to 2HKO Blissey with Surf in the rain after Blissey has used Calm Mind 3 three times. Meanwhile, a +3 Blissey will be able to OHKO Manaphy with Thunder. Substitute Mewtwo with Calm Mind and Latias or Latios with Calm Mind and Refresh or Safeguard will lose to Blissey in a way like Calm Mind Kyogre.

Calm Mind Blissey will struggle with Calm Mind Kyogre and Calm Mind Giratina that have Rest and Sleep Talk, as they will be able to outstall Blissey unless it gets a critical hit. Additionally, any Pokémon that has Roar or Whirlwind along with Calm Mind can phaze Blissey away, and threaten to sweep. The best example of this is Calm Mind Lugia. To foil Kyogre's plans, once again Latias is easily the best answer, as Kyogre will do little damage to Latias with Surf, while Latias has no problems setting up Calm Mind on it. For Calm Mind Giratina, Bulk Up Dialga can switch in. While a +4 Dragon Pulse will do massive damage to Dialga, a +3 Outrage will always OHKO Giratina. Choice Band Dialga can also beat Giratina it with Outrage. Choice Band Tyranitar will also receive minimal damage thanks to the Special Defense boost Sandstream grants it, and can inflict large amounts of damage to Giratina with a Choice Banded Crunch. Tyranitar can also Taunt both Lugia and Giratina and threaten to set up a sweep with Dragon Dance. Support Dialga can also take care of Calm Mind Lugia by crippling it with Toxic. Finally, Mewtwo that have Taunt and Calm Mind can easily set up on Blissey. Metagross and Scizor can usually deal with this variant of Mewtwo, as they often lack Fire attacks.

Psych Up can go over Calm Mind and has several pros and cons. With Psych Up, Blissey can copy stat boosts from Kyogre or Latias that have gotten a large amount of Calm Minds and stop their sweep. However, this comes at the cost of losing to Choice Specs Kyogre, Giratina, and Tail Glow Manaphy in the rain. To beat Kyogre and Manaphy, Latias is once again the best choice, while Bulk Up Dialga or Choice Specs Dialga will annihilate Giratina. As always, Shed Shell is a very viable option as it allows Blissey to escape death by Wobbuffet.

[Team Options]
When using Blissey in Ubers, Forretress should always be considered for the purpose of laying down Toxic Spikes and Spikes. This is because Blissey will force a lot of switches on the opponent’s side due to many Uber Pokémon focusing on special sttacks. Toxic Spikes in particular are a huge help to Blissey, as they will wear down Pokémon such as Choice Specs Kyogre, Mewtwo, Garchomp, and Groudon; all of which are problems for Blissey. Stealth Rock can also be useful for the same reasons. Although Blissey can use Stealth Rock herself, it is better to have other Pokemon do this for her. Dialga and Groudon are good examples of this. Deoxys-S and Deoxys-D can also use Spikes that Blissey can benefit from (really short sentence, sounded awkward). This can be useful because once Spikes and Stealth Rock are layed, Choice Specs Kyogre can no longer break through Blissey.

Many teams rely on revenge killing their opponents with powerful special attacks in order to deal with certain threats. For example, many teams count on Choice Scarf Palkia to OHKO Darkrai with Draco Meteor. Blissey can work very well with Darkrai in this case. Blissey She can easily switch into the incoming Draco Meteor and use the time to either status the next switch-in or switch to another Pokémon that takes advantage of the incoming physical attacker (you don't know that they will send in a physical attacker). In a similar manner, Blissey can also partner well with Garchomp, Rayquaza, and Groudon. Many teams use Lugia to stop all three, and Blissey has no problems with switching into Lugia’s Ice Beam. Blissey can then threaten to cripple Lugia it or the next switch-in with Toxic.

Much like OU, Blissey’s biggest problem in Ubers are powerful physical attackers that can take advantage of Blissey’s meager base 10 Defense. Garchomp can switch into Blissey while it is using anything but Toxic and Ice Beam, and threaten to do a huge amount of damage with STAB Outrage. Groudon can also switch in and threaten to do huge amounts of damage with STAB Earthquake. Rayquaza, although loathing Thunder Wave and being KOed by Ice Beam, can threaten to either OHKO Blissey with Outrage or set up a sweep. Although most commonly seen as a special attacker, Dialga may also use Bulk Up which causes some serious problems for Blissey. Finally, several threats in OU, such as Scizor, Tyranitar, Metagross, and Lucario, are still big issues for Blissey in Ubers. Lugia can make an excellent teammate because of these threats. Lugia It can handle Rayquaza, Bulk Up Dialga, Groudon, Metagross, Lucario, and Scizor thanks to its wonderful Defense stat and can OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock. Lugia can use Reflect and Whirlwind to keep the other physical attackers at bay. Reflect itself can aid Blissey in taking U-turn from Scizor and will let Blissey her survive Pursuit from Pokémon such as Metagross and Tyranitar as well. Be warned though, while Bold Lugia can handle Choice Scarf Garchomp, it will have trouble dealing with Swords Dance Garchomp. If Swords Dance Garchomp is particularly troubling for your team, make sure Lugia is Timid with an EV spread of 252 HP / 66 Def / 192 Spe. This allows Lugia to outspeed a Jolly Garchomp, and set up Reflect before Garchomp can destroy Lugia with a boosted Stone Edge. Groudon is another great teammate for Blissey. Groudon, with its massive Attack and Defense stats, will easily scare off Tyranitar and Metagross with STAB Earthquake. When using an Impish Groudon, Lucario will fail to OHKO it with a +2 Close Combat, while Groudon will easily OHKO back with Earthquake. Finally, Groudon can deal massive damage to Bulk Up Dialga with STAB, super effective Earthquake. Giratina is another good choice as a teammate for Blissey. Giratina can use Will-O-Wisp on Metagross, Scizor, Groudon and Lucario, ruining their ability to sweep. Much like OU, Skarmory is still an excellent partner for Blissey in Ubers. Skarmory can switch into Garchomp, Scizor, Metagross, and Groudon that lack Fire Punch, and set up Spikes. If any of these foes dare to set up, Skarmory can easily use Whirlwind to make their efforts futile. If one would prefer a more offensive way to deal with these threats, Choice Scarf Shaymin-S can outpace (we stopped using outspeed) Groudon even after it uses Rock Polish and OHKO it with Seed Flare. Choice Scarf Dialga can revenge kill Swords Dance Rayquaza, Lucario, and Choice Band Garchomp, while Choice Scarf Palkia can revenge kill Dragon Dance Rayquaza. Choice Scarf Jirachi is able to destroy and outrun any Rayquaza due to its 100 base Speed, and can use its Steel-typing to switch in and OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Punch. Choice Scarf Jirachi can also cripple Wobbuffet switch-ins by Tricking them with a Choice Scarf.

Much like the OU tier, Blissey despises users of Leech Seed. The three main users of Leech Seed to watch out for in Ubers are Ludicolo, Jumpluff, and Shaymin-S. Ludicolo can use its Rain Dish ability to restore even more health, Jumpluff can use its Speed to Encore Blissey’s non-attacking moves, and Shaymin-S can threaten to flinch Blissey with Air Slash. The best way to deal with Jumpluff is to use Scizor. Scizor can use U-turn after Jumpluff uses Leech Seed, and then you can switch to Lugia to Ice Beam it. Ludicolo, if lacking Surf, can be set up on by Forretress. You can then use a phazer such as Lugia or Skarmory to force a switch, meaning Ludicolo will be crippled by Toxic Spikes on the next switch-in. Finally, Shaymin-S should be dealt with by Choice Scarf Dialga, who sports a 4x resistance to Seed Flare, and can OHKO Shaymin-S with Draco Meteor. Choice Scarf Jirachi is also capable of revenge killing Shaymin-S with Ice Punch. Lugia and Skarmory can also Whirlwind Shaymin-S away, forcing it to take more damage from Stealth Rock on the next switch-in.

In the Uber tier, many special attackers such as Mewtwo, Darkrai, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina-O will use mixed sets with the main purpose of beating Blissey. A good strategy against this is to use Protect while these Pokémon attempt to beat Blissey, which can reveal whether they are mixed or not. Mixed Darkrai will be effectively handled by Forretress and Scizor if it lacks Hidden Power Fire, while Darkrai that lack Thunder will be destroyed by Kyogre. Palkia can be much more difficult to handle, as it has no true counter. Palkia It not only has the capability of using normal mixed sets, but it can also use the combination of Substitute and Focus Punch to destroy Blissey. If Palkia attempts to use Aqua Tail on Blissey, you can switch Latias into it, and threaten to OHKO Palkia with Dragon Pulse. Be warned though, as Palkia may also carry Outrage with the purpose of destroying Latias switch-ins. Garchomp, although unable to switch into Palkia, is able to revenge kill it. A Choice Scarf Metagross can switch into Palkia’s physical assaults and then use Explosion on it. Mixed Dialga can also pose a threat for Blissey, because either Outrage or Brick Break can 2HKO it. Groudon can switch into Dialga’s Outrage or Brick Break, and threaten devastation with Earthquake. Mixed Giratina-O is generally beaten by Scizor if it's raining, as then Hidden Power Fire will not OHKO Scizor, while Scizor can wear down Giratina-O with Pursuit and Roost. Mewtwo can be particularly difficult to beat if it is running a mixed set, because Mewtwo can use Selfdestruct to destroy one of your Pokémon. Usually, the best option against Mewtwo beyond Toxic Spikes is to use a faster Pokémon (such as Choice Scarf Darkrai, Choice Scarf Palkia, etc.) to kill Mewtwo before it kills you.

[Other Options]
Blissey has a bundle of other support moves for use in Ubers. Blissey She is one of the few usable Pokemon in Ubers that has access to Stealth Rock. While Blissey is often better off using other support moves besides Stealth Rock, it is a viable move if no other Pokemon on your team can set it up. Light Screen may seem like an odd choice on Blissey, but it can be helpful for not only support the rest of your team, but will also make sure that Choice Specs Kyogre will no longer be able to 2HKO Blissey while Light Screen lasts. Blissey can use Sing to put would be counters to sleep, but note the that Sing only has a 55% chance of hitting the opponent. Snatch can be used to steal Reflects, Light Screens, stat ups, and other support moves, but many users of such moves such as Mewtwo can easily use Taunt to shut down that strategy, in addition to Blissey often being better off using Calm Mind herself rather then stealing Calm Minds. Rest is almost always an inferior option to Softboiled or Wish, but it can work well with Natural Cure, allowing Blissey to be relativity unharmed by Toxic Spikes, and will allow Blissey to outstall opposing Blissey. Blissey can use Block to trap Wobbuffet switch-ins, and then use Toxic to slowly stall Wobbuffet to death. Copy Cat may seem like a strange option on Blissey, but it can be useful in certain situations. For example, it can allow Blissey to use Spikes or Toxic Spikes on Forretress as it uses them. If Forretress attempts to Rapid Spin, you can either roast it with Flamethrower (provided that its sunny), or Copy Cat Rapid Spin to get rid of the opponents entry hazards. Copy Cat can also allow Blissey to defeat Calm Mind Giratina-O and Calm Mind Kyogre that lack Rest. Note, however, that Copy Cat is illegal with Seismic Toss and Wish.

Charm can be used to soften physical attackers attempting to prey on Blissey after a switch-in. Due to Charm, mixed Palkia (barring a Focus Punch) and Dialga will no longer be able to get past Blissey beyond scoring a critical hit, while Groudon and Garchomp will only have a small chance to 2HKO Blissey with a Choice Banded Earthquake and Outrage respectively. Note that both Garchomp and Groudon have access to Swords Dance, thus it is best to still have Pokemon that can defeat both. While an Adamant Life Orb Rayquaza can still 2HKO Blissey with Outrage after being hit by Charm, you can OHKO Rayquaza with Ice Beam after it switches into Stealth Rock and Charm (provided you have 84 SpA EVs), thus allowing Blissey to defeating a Pokemon Blissey that she is normally greatly troubled by. Charm also has the potential to cause a large amount of switches, thus it is best to pair Charm Blissey with users of entry hazards (such as Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes) (Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes are not users of entry hazards, they are entry hazards). Note that both Wish and Seismic Toss are illegal to use with Charm.

Blissey has access to Gravity, a rare but useful move that lasts for five turns. Gravity will allow both Groudon and Garchomp to freely use Earthquake and a 100% accurate Stone Edge, as Gravity eliminates the immunity Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with the Levitate ability for five turns. Gravity will also eliminate the immunity floating Pokemon enjoy have to Spikes and Toxic Spikes, thus meaning that Gravity Blissey will greatly benefit Forretress and Skarmory's Spikes (and Toxic Spikes in Forretress' case) laying abilities. Finally, Gravity will lower the evasion of all Pokemon by 2 stages, meaning that any move that has at least 60% accuracy will always hit. This is especially great for Darkrai, who must often use the 70% accurate Focus Blast and the 80% accurate Dark Void. Calm Mind Mewtwo with Life Orb will also enjoy the effects of Gravity, as it allows Life Orb Mewtwo to safely use Focus Blast, which will always 2HKO opposing Blissey after one use of Calm Mind. Garchomp not only benefits from an Earthquake that hits all Pokemon, it also enjoys the evasion cut as well. This is because the usually unreliable Dragon Rush becomes viable on Garchomp under Gravity, meaning that Garchomp it will have access to a STAB 100 Base Power Dragon-type attack that has a 20% chance to flinch. Blissey's Sing will also hit 92% of the time under Gravity. There is one potentially fatal flaw with Gravity, and it is that the opponent can also take advantage of Gravity's effects. This will make Groudon and Garchomp particularly difficult to handle, thus it is best to either destroy them before using Gravity. Like Charm, both Wish and Seismic Toss are illegal with Gravity.

Blissey has some alternate attacks at its disposal that can be useful in certain situations. When under the support of Groudon's everlasting sun, Flamethrower becomes a viable option to KO or cripple several common Steel-types that may switch into Blissey. Forretress is always OHKOed by Flamethrower after Stealth Rock, while only extremely specially defensive Scizor will survive Flamethrower after Stealth Rock damage. Blissey's Flamethrower will do a massive 76% - 90% to Lucario in the sun, while Metagross is always 2HKOed after Stealth Rock damage. Grass Knot may normally be an inferior option to Thunder on Calm Mind Blissey, but it has two main selling points. Grass Knot is always a 100% accurate attack, regardless of the weather, which is particularly useful considering the fact that many Ubers are heavy enough to be hit by a 120 Base Power Grass Knot. Secondly, Groudon is hit quite hard by it. Finally, Counter can be a good option on Blissey, even in Ubers. Several Pokemon, such as Palkia and Dialga, will use mixed sets just to defeat Blissey. If Blissey predicts a physical attack from either of them, and uses Counter, Palkia and Dialga are sure to be KOed. Also, note that defensive Groudon, Choice Scarf Garchomp, and Scizor that lack Superpower are also unable to OHKO Blissey, meaning that Blissey will be able to gain a surprise kill on them if it she is healthy.

[EVs]
In the Uber tier, Blissey should use 4 HP(_)/ 252 Def / 252 SpD with a Calm nature on all sets without Ice Beam, as Blissey needs to be extra durable to take the powerful assaults of Ubers. If using Ice Beam, use the EV spread of 252 Def / 84 SpA / 172 SpD, because this will allow Blissey to OHKO a 0 HP / 4 SpD Rayquaza 100% of the time after it switches into Stealth Rock.

[Opinion]
Even in the Uber tier, there is no Pokémon that can do Blissey’s job better. Although there are several Pokémon that can break through Blissey’s Special Defenses in Ubers, don’t let that discourage you from using Blissey, as it is still the best general special wall in the Uber metagame. Almost any team will appreciate Blissey’s ability to sponge special assaults, especially stall teams.

[Counters]
In the Uber tier, Bulk Up Dialga is, without a doubt, the best Blissey counter. It is immune to Toxic and can easily set up on Blissey. Powerful physical attackers such as Garchomp, Groudon, and Rayquaza can make Blissey’s life a living hell. However, Ice Beam will do massive damage to Garchomp and Rayquaza and none of them will like being hit by Toxic.

Many Pokémon in the Uber tier can surprise Blissey with mixed attacking sets, such as Mewtwo, Darkrai, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina-O. Dialga in particular can be a problem, as it is immune to Toxic. (you already said that above)

If Blissey lacks Calm Mind or Psych Up, Kyogre and Giratina can use a combination of Sleep Talk, Rest, and Calm Mind to easily set up on Blissey. Kyogre, Mewtwo, and Giratina-O can also use Substitute and Calm Mind to beat Blissey her. In the rain, Manaphy can easily set up Tail Glow on non-Calm Mind Blissey and 2HKO it with a +2 Surf. Choice Specs Kyogre also has the capability of 2HKOing Blissey with Water Spout.

Wobbuffet can switch into Blissey and use Tickle several times to lower its Defense. After this, Blissey will be KOed by Pursuit from Scizor or Tyranitar. Wobbuffet can also use Encore on Blissey and switch in a sweeper such as Lucario or Giratina-O to take advantage of the free set up time.

Man that took a while...

Anyway, great job on the analysis Theorymon, even know it's pretty long. I hope I didn't miss anything, so I suggest you take a look over it one last time just to be sure.

Have fun uploading Blissey!

Theorymon · Oct 30, 2009

Time to upload this!

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