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Blissey

Discussion in 'Global Battle Union' started by Ashenlock, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. Ashenlock

    Ashenlock

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    Blissey, Blissey. How can enough be said of you? I remember hearing, in early Gen IV, how Blissey had "generally reduced the effectiveness of the Special category of moves."

    In Double Battles, Blissey can't wall Pokemon the same way, because crafty trainers will have Pokemon ready to focus fire on her. Instead, her most common movesets involve taking advantage of what she can't do on PO to make up for lost time:


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    Blissey # 242

    HP: 255
    Atk: 10
    Def: 10
    SpA: 75
    SpD: 135
    Spe: 55​

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    [LEFT]- Defense Curl
    Pound
    Growl
    5 Tail Whip
    9 Refresh
    12 DoubleSlap
    16 Softboiled
    20 Bestow
    23 Minimize
    27 Take Down
    31 Sing
    34 Fling
    38 Heal Pulse
    42 Egg Bomb
    46 Light Screen
    50 Healing Wish
    54 Double
    -Edge
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    [LEFT]TM04 Calm Mind
    TM06 Toxic
    TM07 Hail
    TM10 Hidden Power
    TM11 Sunny Day
    TM13 Ice Beam
    TM14 Blizzard
    TM15 Hyper Beam
    TM16 Light Screen
    TM17 Protect
    TM18 Rain Dance
    TM20 Safeguard
    TM21 Frustration
    TM22 SolarBeam
    TM24 Thunderbolt
    TM25 Thunder
    TM26 Earthquake
    TM27 
    Return
    TM29 Psychic
    TM30 Shadow Ball
    TM31 Brick 
    Break
    TM32 Double Team
    TM35 Flamethrower
    TM37 Sandstorm
    TM38 Fire Blast
    TM39 Rock Tomb
    TM42 Facade
    TM44 Rest
    TM45 Attract
    TM48 Round
    TM49 Echoed Voice
    TM52 Focus Blast
    TM56 Fling
    TM57 Charge Beam
    TM59 Incinerate
    TM67 Retaliate
    TM68 Giga Impact
    TM70 Flash
    TM73 Thunder Wave
    TM77 Psych Up
    TM78 Bulldoze
    TM80 Rock Slide
    TM83 Work Up
    TM85 Dream Eater
    TM86 Grass Knot
    TM87 Swagger
    TM90 Substitute
    TM93 Wild Charge
    TM94 Rock Smash
    HM04 Strength
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    [LEFT]Aromatherapy
    Counter
    Endure
    Gravity
    Heal Bell
    Helping Hand
    Last Resort
    Metronome
    Mud Bomb
    Natural Gift
    Present
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    (Tutor moves coming soon)​

    Blissey -> Double Battles

    ->Cartridge Buster<-



    Blissey @ Leftovers
    BOLD
    +Natural Cure+
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    -Minimize
    -Toxic
    -Flamethrower / Protect / Heal Pulse
    -Softboiled

    Minimize's boost in the present Gen V has been a big deal, whether or not we spoiled on the Evasion Clause know of its impact. When your moves only connect half the time, it's like getting +2 Def / +2 SpD, but it also makes status moves inaccurate, so that's only putting it lightly.

    This Blissey uses classic Obibliss elements to provide perfect-coverage-sans-Heatran in a manner of speaking. Minimize a couple times while a Fighting-type or powerful physical attacker isn't on the field, then Toxic the whole enemy team and Softboiled when necessary. You can literally come back from 1-4 and win the battle this way.

    Part of this set is luck and forethought. If Terrakion is on your foe's side of the field, for instance, you're going to have a bad time. This is one reason to run Protect on Blissey; the Fighting-type foe will almost invariably go for Blissey, knowing bad things are brewing, while you circumvent its attack and get it out of the picture.

    Heal Pulse is a third option on teams geared towards the same idea as this Blissey. A Chansey, Blissey, Shuckle core may run around this debuff theme, and Heal Pulse is nifty in this type of party.

    If you haven't guessed, this set's name is based off of the propensity of players who face it to bend their game cartridges into painful positions (and yell obscenities, besides).

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    Other support set, coming soon!
  2. lucariojr

    lucariojr it's nothing to sneasel at
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    since we're on the subject of troll sets:

    Serene Grace+Rock Slide in TR

    jajajaja
  3. Ashenlock

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    I don't know if Solace will let me do that if it's a gimmick or unimportant, although I'd like to since it at least has intelligence behind it (whether or not it actually works well most of the time). If Solace allows it, I'll edit it in.
  4. Tenodera

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    Dunsparce, with his higher Attack, might actually do this better. Of course if enough of Blissey's unique options would also be on the set then that's fine too.
  5. DreamTalon

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    You forgot one thing that let's Blissey stall people out faster, while actually getting some KO.
  6. cosmicexplorer

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    lol Serene Grace Rock Slide is only useful for trolling the opponent, as it does ~1% damage with Blissey's terrible Attack.

    Protect is always useful on Blissey with its terrible Defense and weakness to Fighting-type attacks, and should definitely be slashed alongside Minimize because Minimize requires free turns to set up, and when Blissey doesn't have those free turns, Protect can help it, allowing its teammate to take out threatening Pokemon such as Terrakion.

    Chople+Counter is also an excellent strategy, luring in and KOing Pokemon such as Terrakion and Infernape, while retaining Blissey's excellent Special Defense.

    DreamTalon: Care to elaborate?
  7. DreamTalon

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    Seismic Toss. Sorry.
  8. Sprocket

    Sprocket P(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n

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    I saw the most bizarre Blissey ever on Doubles, used by some Japanese dude:

    Blissey @ Chople Berry
    -Counter
    -Blizzard
    -Thunder
    - ???

    Paired with an Abomasnow, a Starmie, and a Hitmontop with Helping Hand.

    It's so crazy, I might try it :P
  9. cosmicexplorer

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    Chople + Counter is a pretty standard option on Blissey, taking out stuff like Terrakion and Hitmontop. Thunder (in hail lol) and Blizzard are fun options, but Blissey generally doesn't have the attacking power to make it work.

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