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Brokenfly Dance

Discussion in 'BW OU Teams' started by Stunt, May 19, 2011.

  1. Stunt

    Stunt

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    brokenfly dance
    a baton pass RMT

    introduction
    5th gen brought about not only an era of stronger pokemon, but it also brought in a plethora of new boosting moves. The most noticeably useful of these moves include Shell Smash, Quiver Dance, and Gear Change. Being a defensive minded player, Quiver Dance truly appealed to me as a fascinating move. If it was already feared on just one pokemon, namely Ulgamoth, it would be destructive if it was passed in a chain.


    team


    • EVs are leaning towards defense to fully utilize the boosts from Quiver Dance.
    • Substitute is a necessary precaution against Dragon Tail/ Red Card if Ingrain cannot be setup, as well as critical hits.
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    Venomoth (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Shield Dust
    EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Quiver Dance
    - Baton Pass
    - Bug Buzz
    - Sleep Powder


    Quiver Dance should always be used first unless
    Sleep Powder should be used when your pass is threatened. Otherwise,
    Sleep should really be saved until it is urgently needed.
    e.g: Politoed's Perish Song, Tyranitar Stone Edge
    -Bug Buzz is a needed option when threatened by priority taunt in the middle of a pass chain.

    Side Notes
    -Defense EVs survive Rock Slide Life Orb from Doryuuzu if Tyranitar is put to sleep.
    -Speed EVs outspeed Max Speed Timid Jolteon, just because.
    -Shield Dust helps prevent secondary effects, including flinches, so you don't have to worry about those pesky burns from Scald.
    E.g: Rotom Thunderbolt, Ninetales Flamethrower

    Lead Matchups



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    Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Magic Bounce
    EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Stored Power
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
    - Baton Pass

    -The main role of Espeon is to reflect phaze moves with Magic Mirror.
    -Assist Power has the potential power to sweep with just 2 Butterfly Dances.

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    Celebi @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Giga Drain
    - Substitute
    - Calm Mind

    - Typing is extremely important to this team.
    Counters common threats to baton passing.

    e.g: Leech Seed Nattorei, Rotom-W, Borutorosu *with 2 butterfly dances*
    -Giga Drain helps to restore health to take more hits in the future.



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    Togekiss (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 HP / 44 Def / 28 SDef / 184 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Air Slash
    - Aura Sphere
    - Substitute
    - Baton Pass

    -Togekiss can utilize the Butterfly Dance Boosts almost immediately.
    -Air Slash flinch rate deals with opposing Calm Mind/Bulk Up/ Cosmic Power boosters.
    -Aura Sphere is mainly for Tyranitar who would otherwise cause trouble.

    [​IMG]

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 236 Def / 20 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Surf
    - Roar
    - Acid Armor


    -Sets up on most physical attackers with Acid Armor.
    -Surf is necessary to take out potential threats.
    -Roar is for roaring out slower phazers and pokemon setting up.

    e.g: Taunters, Skarmory below 100%

    [​IMG] dancing smeargle!

    Smeargle (M) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Own Tempo
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Ingrain
    - Spore
    - Butterfly Dance
    - Baton Pass

    -Sometimes Venomoth fails to pass a butterfly dance, so it is good to keep an alternate.
    -Smeargle is the only ingrain passer. Ingrain helps to restore HP from Stealth rocks, and prevent random threats such as Red Card.

    THREATS
    (not easily countered)

    Clear Smog: Be aware that it exists and hope that you have Togekiss out. Countermeasures include swapping one of these pokemon with a steel type.

    Haze: Best thing to do is try to KO the user before it can haze or put it to sleep.

    Perish Song: Don't be too greedy with passes, and try to get to Togekiss as fast as possible. It should be able to take care of the major perish song users such as Celebi and Politoed.

  2. wacky tabaky

    wacky tabaky

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    Who's your sweeper to take the dances and subs.
  3. Stunt

    Stunt

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    Sweeping is done between Togekiss, Vaporeon, Celebi , and Espeon *with no ingrain and threatened by phazing if you cannot OHKO the opponent*

    Having Togekiss out makes me feel secure because it can pretty much flinch the opponent to death.
  4. Stunt

    Stunt

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    EVs changed:

    Venomoth can now take a rock slide from doryuuzu in the following case:
    Sleep powder misses against Tyranitar while it sets up stealth rock, but hits the second time.

    Espeon can now 2hko leftovers thundurus *only to be sent in on a taunt*
    Takes thundurus 3hko with timid thunderbolt.

    Celebi now outspeeds Timid Jolteon after 1 Butterfly Dance.

    Togekiss now outspeeds Timid Starmie after 1 Butterfly Dance.
  5. Stunt

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    for the people testing this team, Jolteon seems to be a possible replacement for espeon.
    Good for taking hurricanes / thunderbolts and pretty much a beast against rain teams.

    Though espeon is valued for its protection against lead taunters and whirlwind without ingrain.
  6. lampeskaerm2

    lampeskaerm2

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    Hello,

    I have been using a similar team:

    Togekiss (F) @ Lum Berry Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 HP / 188 Def / 68 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Nasty Plot
    - Baton Pass
    - Air Slash
    - Roost


    Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 248 HP / 200 Def / 36 SDef / 24 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Baton Pass
    - Acid Armor
    - Scald


    Smeargle (F) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Own Tempo
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Spore
    - Baton Pass
    - Ingrain
    - Quiver Dance


    Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Magic Bounce
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Calm Mind

    - Psyshock
    - Hidden Power [Electric]
    Venomoth (F) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Tinted Lens
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Quiver Dance
    - Baton Pass
    - Sleep Powder
    - Bug Buzz


    Mew @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Baton Pass
    - Barrier
    - Amnesia


    Often, Mew functions as a lead which is why it is EV'ed to outspeed max speed jolly Tar. The +2 or +4 boost which it often passes is invaluable for further baton passing.


    This team peaked #91 on the Pokemon Online server.
  7. Stunt

    Stunt

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    haha well PO ladder I peaked 8th easily.
    but of course I'm banned there now sooo....
  8. YAYtears

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    You're banned? O.o Anyways BP Espeon is available so go use it.
  9. Fear The Pika

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    Yes, use BP Espeon now that it's legal. Also, try Stored Power on said Espeon. 20 base power with +20 for every boost, then there's STAB. With Butterfly Dance and Acid Armor passes, it can be the best sweeper in the game, falling only to a crit and possibly a Chansey/Blissey.
  10. Stunt

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    BP espeon is legal? :) thanks guys.

    more rates now that this strategy is completely viable and this team can do much better.
    peaked 8th on smogon before i got banned but my account is probably decaying :'(
  11. Super Mario Bro

    Super Mario Bro All we ever look for

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    Espy easily OHKO's Chansey and Blissey (and can even 2HKO Jirachi) with enough boosts. If you pass it Acid Armor, and a couple of quiver dances, the only thing that takes it down is a priority crit (and I usually switch out of 4X resists to psychic unless I have accumulated an insane amount of boosts).

    And ya this team is great. It took me a while to get used to, but I was able to peak pretty high on a couple of servers. The only solid counter to this team is Haze/Perish Song Murkrow. lol

    Stored Power Baton Pass Espeon makes this team even better.

    This is SMB in training btw.
  12. Stunt

    Stunt

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    haha sup! i forgot to tell you i was banned -_-

    Anyways, since you have tried the team... do you think jolteon could work anywhere O_O
    i mean the flying and electric resistance is nothing to pass on, but I cant see a spot for it...
  13. Stunt

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    final bumps last comments.

    best BP team out there foos

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