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Ubers Bronzong

Discussion in 'Preliminary Pokedex' started by Muk, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. Muk

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    Overview
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    Bronzong stands out as one of the best support Pokemon in Ubers. Its Steel typing and ability, Levitate, grant it an immunity to Toxic and most entry hazards as well as nine resistances, including to Stealth Rock and Fairy-type moves. Coupled with high defenses and a usable HP stat, these traits allow Bronzong to easily switch into numerous important threats, particularly Xerneas. However, Bronzong does have a few major flaws as a defensive Pokemon. It has no reliable recovery move outside of Rest, and it is forced out by most Taunt users. Additionally, it gained two weaknesses in the transition to XY, and permanent rain no longer exists to mitigate its Fire weakness. Its former niche as a dual screens user is also considerably less useful due to the newly buffed Defog. These faults aside, Bronzong is a great choice for any team in need of the specific roles it can fulfill.


    Support
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    name: Support
    move 1: Gyro Ball
    move 2: Stealth Rock
    move 3: Toxic
    move 4: Earthquake / Protect
    ability: Levitate
    item: Leftovers
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe
    nature: Sassy

    Moves
    ========

    Gyro Ball is Bronzong's most powerful STAB move due to its low Speed, and it deals a surprisingly large amount of damage to faster opponents. Bronzong makes a great, reliable Stealth Rock user thanks to its plethora of resistances and ability to switch into Toxic and entry hazards with impunity. Toxic gives Bronzong a way to defeat most common walls and Defog users attempting to remove Stealth Rock, most notably support Arceus formes. Earthquake rounds off the set and allows Bronzong to hit many Pokemon super effectively that it cannot inflict with Toxic, such as Dialga, Heatran, Klefki, and Aegislash. However, Protect can be used instead in order to accumulate extra rounds of Leftovers recovery and Toxic damage.

    Several other moves are viable options in the last slot. Hidden Power Ice from an oddly decent base 79 Special Attack can turn Bronzong into a complete counter to Gliscor and Landorus-T, though it cannot reliably 2HKO either. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire nails Scizor, Genesect, Forretress, and Ferrothorn, but it will not OHKO any of them. Rock Slide OHKOes Ho-Oh after Stealth Rock damage. Lastly, Explosion prevents Bronzong from being setup bait and can provide another teammate with the opportunity to come in safely.

    Set Details
    ========

    The given EV spread makes Bronzong as specially bulky as possible. However, if it needs to be a true counter to Geomancy Xerneas, a Brave nature with a spread of 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD is an option. This will ensure that standard Geomancy Xerneas is always OHKOed by Gyro Ball after it boosts, while powering up the move against other threats as well. Equipping an Iron Plate and moving 28 EVs into Attack from the listed spread also accomplishes this.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Bronzong is a simple Pokemon to use. Switch it in on one of its resistances or immunities and set up Stealth Rock as early in the match as possible, using Gyro Ball, Toxic, and the last move when appropriate. Avoid staying in against walls with RestTalk, especially those that also run Will-O-Wisp. If you require Bronzong to counter a specific Pokemon on your opponent's team, ensure that it is not repeatedly switched in and thus worn down.

    Team Options
    ========

    Bronzong does not require much team support of its own, as it provides support itself by virtue of checking Fairy-types and setting up Stealth Rock. Still, it does have great defensive synergy with many common Pokemon in Ubers. Kyogre alleviates Bronzong's Fire-type weakness with Drizzle, though it only lasts for five turns. Yveltal checks Ghost-types and a few other Taunt users. Ho-Oh laughs at Fire-type moves and has no problem taking most Ghost- and Dark-type ones. Palkia and Zekrom work similarly in regards to Fire-type moves, and Zekrom is able to check most Taunt users. Fairy-type Pokemon also make good teammates, as they handle Dark-types nicely. As a final note, a teammate with a priority move is required if Bronzong is being used to check Geomancy Xerneas without running one of the alternative spreads mentioned in Set Details. Examples of these include Rayquaza, Arceus, Giratina-O, Genesect, and Kangaskhan.


    Other Options
    ########

    Bronzong has few worthwhile options aside from the ones mentioned. Hypnosis incapacitates a counter, but it has very shaky accuracy and is generally unreliable. Reflect and Light Screen can allow a teammate to set up with ease, even against a boosted sweeper. Rest is Bronzong's only recovery move and is usable with cleric support. Finally, Bronzong is a solid user of Trick Room.

    Do not be tempted to use Heatproof. Bronzong does not handle Fire-type moves well regardless, and losing Levitate renders it unable to switch into Earthquake and Spikes.


    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Status Absorbers**: In general, these include Pokemon that resist Gyro Ball and have ways of dealing with Toxic, such as RestTalk Kyogre, Rest Palkia, Calm Mind + Refresh Water Arceus, and RestTalk Giratina.

    **Taunt Users**: Gengar, Darkrai, Mewtwo, and Yveltal in particular are all capable of removing Bronzong with a super effective move. However, the first three are hit very hard by Gyro Ball due to their high Speed and frailty.

    **Fire-types**: Ho-Oh stands out, as it doesn't mind Toxic due to its recovery from Regenerator, and Substitute sets can avoid Toxic entirely. Blaziken and Reshiram can KO Bronzong with a super effective STAB move.

    **Steel-types**: Dialga and Heatran can deal with Bronzong by using Fire-type attacks, though Heatran needs to be mindful of Earthquake. Skarmory, Forretress, and Ferrothorn can switch into Bronzong and set up entry hazards, but the latter two should be wary of the odd Hidden Power Fire. Forretress can also use Rapid Spin to remove Stealth Rock. Mold Breaker Excadrill is able to lay down Stealth Rock, use Rapid Spin, and KO Bronzong with Earthquake. However, it takes heavy damage from Bronzong's own Earthquake.


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    Overview
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    • Great typing + ability combo gives it nine resistances and two immunities, notably a Fairy-type resistance
    • High defenses and usable HP stat
    • Unhindered by entry hazards or Toxic, which is great for a defensive Pokemon
    • Gets Stealth Rock
    • No recovery move other than Rest
    • Gained two weaknesses + no more permanent rain to remove its Fire weakness
    • Taunt bait
    • Dual Screens are considerably less useful due to Defog buff

    Support
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    name: Support
    move 1: Gyro Ball
    move 2: Stealth Rock
    move 3: Toxic
    move 4: Earthquake / Protect
    ability: Levitate
    item: Leftovers
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe
    nature: Sassy

    Moves
    ========
    • Gyro Ball hits rather hard, even uninvested, thanks to Bronzong's low Speed stat. Also lets it counter Fairy-types
    • Stealth Rock is Stealth Rock
    • Toxic allows Bronzong to cripple most walls, particularly bulky Arceus forms that will want to Defog
    • Earthquake hits Heatran, Dialga, Klefki, and Aegislash
    • Protect accumulates another round of Leftovers recovery and Toxic damage
    • Hidden Power Ice comes off a surprisingly decent Special Attack stat and turns Bronzong into a complete counter to Gliscor and Landorus-T
    • Hidden Power Fire is also an option that hits Scizor, Genesect, Forretress, and Ferrothorn
    • Rock Slide OHKOes Ho-Oh after Stealth Rock damage
    • Explosion prevents Bronzong from becoming set-up bait and allows a teammate to come in safely

    Set Details
    ========
    • The given spread allows Bronzong to be as specially bulky as possible
    • A Brave 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD spread can be used to let Gyro Ball OHKO standard GeoXern after it boosts, as well as hit much harder in general
    • Iron Plate + 28 Atk EVs shifted from the listed spread also accomplishes this

    Usage Tips
    ========
    • Switch in against Pokemon you can wall (e.g. Ground-types, Fairy-types) and get Stealth Rock up ASAP
    • Counter Fairy-types and Ground-types
    • Use Toxic against walls, but don't bother staying in against RestTalk users, especially those with Will-O-Wisp (Giratina)

    Team Options
    ========
    • Bronzong doesn't require much team support of its own, as it supports its team itself by virtue of checking Xerneas + Stealth Rock
    • Unless you're running one of the alternative spreads mentioned in Set Details, a teammate with priority is mandatory in order to guarantee that Geomancy Xerneas is checked. Examples: Rayquaza, Arceus, Giratina-O, Genesect, Kangaskhan
    • Kyogre
    • Yveltal
    • Ho-Oh
    • Palkia
    • Zekrom
    • Fairy-types

    Other Options
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    • Hypnosis
    • Light Screen/Reflect (not necessarily together); Light Screen can help a teammate set up on Xerneas even after a Geomancy
    • Rest with cleric support
    • Don't use Heatproof

    Checks & Counters
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    • (RestTalk) Kyogre
    • Ho-Oh
    • (Rest) Palkia
    • Blaziken
    • Dialga
    • Giratina
    • Reshiram
    • Arceus forms with Refresh
    • Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Forretress can set up hazards freely, Forretress can also Rapid Spin
    • Mold Breaker Excadrill
    • Taunt users (Gengar, Darkrai, and Mewtwo need to watch out for Gyro Ball, though), Yveltal in particular
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2014
  2. canman98

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    Some things about Zong:

    -Remove Explosion from the main set imo, as Bronzong can provide support throughout the match, and Explosion won't do too much without investment. Also, I think Light Screen should go to OO as a Dual Screens set, and have Rock Slide be slashed first, as it OHKO's Max HP Ho-Oh after SR, but I'm not sure how much utility it can offer after that, as it only 3HKOs 0 HP / 0 Def Yveltal after SR
    -An alternate spread of 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD with a Brave nature can go to set Set Details, as Gyro will always OHKO standard GeoXern that has already boosted, in addition to OHKOing physically defensive Ho-Oh after SR and 2HKO Yveltal after SR
    -Trick Room for OO
    -RestTalk set for OO
    -CM or Flash Cannon for OO

    I'm not sure what else to offer after that as of now, QC can push it a bit more with info as this only has the set and that's it.
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    Don't worry about what was slashed for the fourth move (total filler btw), I just left a bunch of options there until something was agreed on. Rock Slide will probably get the first slash. And yeah, 252+ Gyro Ball deals minimum 100.4% or something to 108/28 Xerneas at +2 Speed iirc, lol.

    I'll probably mention Trick Room and Rest in OO, but not RestTalk or CM/Flash Cannon.
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    Iron Plate + 28 Attack EVs guarantees the OHKO with Gyro Ball on standard GeoXerneas after SR damage. Also gives you a good chance to OHKO Mega Gengar after SR which is something worth noting. It makes Bronzong less reliant on having additional priority to beat Xerneas so there's that.

    Idk about the 4th moveslot since Zong can do a lot of things with it...I'd prolly make it Protect / HP Ice / Earthquake with LS/Rest as moves mentions. Protect is nice for stalling for Toxic/Leftovers and scouting Choiced mons, HP Ice lets Bronzong 100% counter Lando-T/Gliscor which is cute, EQ prevents Bronzong from being Mega Blaziken/Heatran fodder and helps to conserve Gyro Ball PP. Rest is cool with cleric support since it gives Zong a way to heal itself. LS is extra protection against Xerneas and special threats that can come in easily (Kyogre/Yveltal) which is solid.

    Will comment more later.
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    Okay one last sweep:

    "Unless you're running one of the alternative spreads mentioned in Set Details, a teammate with priority is mandatory in order to guarantee that Geomancy Xerneas is checked" - Mention specifics like ESpeed Arceus, Rayquaza, Mega Kangaskhan, Sneak Giratina-O, Genesect, etc.

    Add Yveltal as a counter.

    Solid otherwise.

    QC 1/3
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    Mention that HP Fire / HP Ice come off a surprisingly usable Special Attack stat:

    0 SpA Bronzong Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Gliscor: 180-216 (50.9 - 61.1%) -- 43.8% chance to 2HKO after Poison Heal

    Perfectly reasonable damage and as you said, it's a nasty surprise for Gliscor who think they can outstall Gyro Ball -- and therefore Bronzong itself -- with Substitute. It's a shame it has difficulty finding room for this move because it likes Earthquake and Protect.

    Mention in Usage tips that it should switch out against Rest Talk walls, especially if they carry Will-O-Wisp.

    Add Reshiram to Checks & Counters.

    QC 2/3
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    I discussed the changes I wanted you to make on PS.

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    polop: o you already wrote it up
    Muk: yes
    polop: When you mention HP Ice
    polop: mention that
    polop: Bronzong will barely 2HKO Lando and Gliscor with it
    polop: its not going to nab a suprise OHKO if you get what I'm sayin
    Muk: yep
    Muk: i'll just say it can't ohko them
    Muk: it has like
    Muk: 44% chance to 2hko glicor
    Muk: gliscor
    polop: mm ok outside of that I thibnk its actually p. solid
    polop: gimme a little more time
    Muk: kay
    polop: in overview when you say specific roles erm
    polop: you know zong is used over anything else cos it can kinda beat xern right
    Muk: yeah
    polop: mm ok I think outside of that the analysis is fine
    polop: Mention something similar with HP Fire for Ferro and mons as well
    Muk: k
    Muk: will do that
    Muk: and will mention xern specifically in the overview
    polop: mhm
    polop: yeah I don't think I have any other gripes
    polop: I'll give you the stamp ok :P?


    Solid analysis.

    QC: 3/3
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    Overview
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    Bronzong stands out as one of the best support Pokemon in Ubers. Its Steel typing and ability, Levitate,(AC) grant it an immunity to Toxic and most entry hazards as well as nine resistances, including resistances to Stealth Rock and to Fairy-type moves. In tandem with its high defenses, usable HP stat, and good support movepool, these traits allow Bronzong to switch in with ease against numerous important threats, particularly Xerneas. However, Bronzong does have a few major flaws as a defensive Pokemon. It has no reliable recovery move other than Rest, and it is forced out by most Taunt users. Additionally, it gained two weaknesses in the transition to XY, and permanent rain no longer exists to mitigate its Fire-type weakness. Its former niche as a dual screens user is also considerably less useful due to the Defog buff. These faults aside, Bronzong is a great choice for any team in need of the specific roles it can fulfill.


    Support
    ########
    name: Support
    move 1: Gyro Ball
    move 2: Stealth Rock
    move 3: Toxic
    move 4: Earthquake / Protect
    ability: Levitate
    item: Leftovers
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe
    nature: Sassy

    Moves
    ========

    Gyro Ball is Bronzong's most powerful STAB attack as a result of its low Speed, and deals a surprisingly large amount of damage to fast or Fairy-type opponents. Bronzong makes a great, reliable Stealth Rock user thanks to its plethora of resistances and ability to switch into Toxic and entry hazards with impunity, as well as its plethora of resistances. Toxic gives Bronzong a way to defeat most common walls and Defog users attempting to remove Stealth Rock, most notably bulky Arceus formes. Earthquake rounds off the set and allows Bronzong to hit many Pokemon that it cannot inflict with Toxic super effectively that it cannot inflict with Toxic, such as Dialga, Heatran, Klefki, and Aegislash. However, Protect can be used instead in order to accumulate another round of Leftovers recovery and Toxic damage.

    Several other moves are viable options in the last slot. Hidden Power Ice comes from a surprisingly decent base 79 Special Attack and turns Bronzong into a complete counter to Gliscor and Landorus-T, though it cannot reliably 2HKO them. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire nails Scizor, Genesect, Forretress, and Ferrothorn, but will not OHKO any of them. Rock Slide OHKOes Ho-Oh after Stealth Rock damage. Lastly, Explosion prevents Bronzong from becoming set-(-Hyphen) up bait and provides another teammate with the opportunity for another teammate to come in safely.

    Set Details
    ========

    The given EV spread simply makes Bronzong as specially bulky as possible. However, in order for it to it it needs to become a true counter to Geomancy Xerneas, a Brave nature with a spread of 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD is an option. This will ensure that standard Geomancy Xerneas is always OHKOed by Gyro Ball after it boosts, while also powering up the move in general. Equipping an Iron Plate and moving 28 EVs into Attack from the listed spread also accomplishes this.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Bronzong is a simple Pokemon to use. Switch it in on one of its resistances or immunities and set up Stealth Rock as early into the match as possible, using Gyro Ball, Toxic, and the last move when appropriate. Avoid staying in against walls with RestTalk, especially those that also run Will-O-Wisp. If you require Bronzong to counter a specific Pokemon on your opponent's team, ensure that it is not switched in repeatedly and worn down.

    Team Options
    ========

    Bronzong does not require much team support of its own, as it provides support itself by virtue of checking Fairy-types and its access to Stealth Rock. However, Bronzong does have great defensive synergy with many common Pokemon in Ubers. Kyogre alleviates Bronzong's Fire-type weakness with Drizzle, though it only lasts for five turns. Yveltal checks Ghost-types and a few other Taunt users. Ho-Oh laughs at Fire-type moves and has no problem taking most Ghost- and Dark-type moves. Palkia and Zekrom work similarly in regards to Fire-type moves, and Zekrom is able to check most Taunt users. Fairy-type Pokemon also make good teammates, as they handle Dark-types nicely. As a final note, a teammate with a priority move is required if Bronzong is being used to check Geomancy Xerneas without running one of the alternative spreads mentioned in Set Details. Examples of these include Rayquaza, Arceus, Giratina-O, Genesect, and Kangaskhan.

    Other Options
    ########
    Bronzong has few worthwhile options aside from the ones mentioned. Hypnosis incapacitates a counter, but its shaky accuracy makes using it a gamble. Reflect and Light Screen can allow a teammate to set up with ease, even against a boosted sweeper. Rest is Bronzong's only recovery move, and is usable with cleric support.

    Do not be tempted to use Heatproof. Bronzong does not handle Fire-type moves well regardless, and losing Levitate renders it unable to switch into Earthquake and Spikes.

    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Status Absorbers**: In general, these include Pokemon with a resistance to Gyro Ball that have methods of dealing with Toxic, such as RestTalk Kyogre, Rest Palkia, Calm Mind + Refresh Water Arceus, and RestTalk Giratina.

    **Taunt Users**: Gengar, Darkrai, Mewtwo, and Yveltal in particular are all capable of KOing removing Bronzong with a super effective move. However, the first three are hit very hard by Gyro Ball due to their high Speed and frailty.

    **Fire-types**: Ho-Oh stands out, as it doesn't mind Toxic due to constant switching combined with recovery from Regenerator. Blaziken and Reshiram can KO Bronzong with a super effective STAB move.

    **Steel-types**: Dialga and Heatran can deal with Bronzong using Fire-type attacks, though Heatran needs to be mindful of Earthquake. Skarmory, Forretress, and Ferrothorn can switch into Bronzong and set up entry hazards, but the latter two should be wary of the odd Hidden Power Fire. Forretress can also use Rapid Spin to remove Stealth Rock. Mold Breaker Excadrill is able to lay down Stealth Rock, use Rapid Spin, or and KO Bronzong with Earthquake. It takes heavy damage from Bronzong's own Earthquake, though.


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    Overview
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    Bronzong stands out as one of the best support Pokemon in Ubers. Its Steel typing and ability, Levitate, grant it an immunity to Toxic and most entry hazards as well as nine resistances, including resistances to Stealth Rock and to Fairy-type moves. In tandem with its high defenses, a usable HP stat, and a good support movepool, these traits allow Bronzong can easily to switch in with ease against to numerous important threats, particularly Xerneas. However, Bronzong does have a few major flaws as a defensive Pokemon. It has no reliable recovery move other than outside of Rest, and is forced out by most Taunt users. Additionally, it gained two weaknesses in the transition to XY, and permanent rain no longer exists to mitigate its Fire-type weakness. Its former niche as a dual screens user is also considerably less useful due to the newly buffed Defog buff. These faults aside, Bronzong is a great choice for any team in need of the specific roles it can fulfill.


    Support
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    name: Support
    move 1: Gyro Ball
    move 2: Stealth Rock
    move 3: Toxic
    move 4: Earthquake / Protect
    ability: Levitate
    item: Leftovers
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe
    nature: Sassy

    Moves
    ========

    Gyro Ball is Bronzong's most powerful STAB attack as a result of its low Speed, and deals a surprisingly large amount of damage to faster or Fairy-type opponents. Bronzong makes a great, reliable Stealth Rock user thanks to its plethora of resistances and ability to switch into Toxic and entry hazards with impunity. Toxic gives Bronzong a way to defeat most common walls and Defog users attempting to remove Stealth Rock, most notably bulky (is it worth it to change bulky to support?) Arceus formes. Earthquake rounds off the set and allows Bronzong to hit many Pokemon that it cannot inflict with Toxic super effectively, such as Dialga, Heatran, Klefki, and Aegislash. However, Protect can be used instead in order to accumulate another round of Leftovers recovery and Toxic damage.

    Several other moves are viable options in the last slot. Hidden Power Ice comes from a surprisingly decent base 79 Special Attack and turns Bronzong into a complete counter to Gliscor and Landorus-T, though it cannot reliably 2HKO them. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire nails Scizor, Genesect, Forretress, and Ferrothorn, but will not OHKO any of them. Rock Slide OHKOes Ho-Oh after Stealth Rock damage. Lastly, Explosion prevents Bronzong from becoming setup bait and provides another teammate with the opportunity to come in safely.

    Set Details
    ========

    The given EV spread simply makes Bronzong as specially bulky as possible. However, if it needs to become a true counter to Geomancy Xerneas, a Brave nature with a spread of 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD is an option. This will ensure that standard Geomancy Xerneas is always OHKOed by Gyro Ball after it boosts, while also powering up the move in general. Equipping an Iron Plate and moving 28 EVs into Attack from the listed spread also accomplishes this.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Bronzong is a simple Pokemon to use. Switch it in on one of its resistances or immunities and set up Stealth Rock as early in the match as possible, using Gyro Ball, Toxic, and the last move when appropriate. Avoid staying in against walls with RestTalk, especially those that also run Will-O-Wisp. If you require Bronzong to counter a specific Pokemon on your opponent's team, ensure that it is not switched in repeatedly and worn down.

    Team Options
    ========

    Bronzong does not require much team support of its own, as it provides support itself by virtue of checking Fairy-types and its access to Stealth Rock. However, Bronzong does have It also has great defensive synergy with many common Pokemon in Ubers. Kyogre alleviates Bronzong's Fire-type weakness with Drizzle, though it only lasts for five turns. Yveltal checks Ghost-types and a few other Taunt users. Ho-Oh laughs at Fire-type moves and has no problem taking most Ghost- and Dark-type moves. Palkia and Zekrom work similarly in regards to Fire-type moves, and Zekrom is able to check most Taunt users. Fairy-type Pokemon also make good teammates, as they handle Dark-types nicely. As a final note, a teammate with a priority move is required if Bronzong is being used to check Geomancy Xerneas without running one of the alternative spreads mentioned in Set Details. Examples of these include Rayquaza, Arceus, Giratina-O, Genesect, and Kangaskhan.

    Other Options
    ########

    Bronzong has few worthwhile options aside from the ones mentioned. Hypnosis incapacitates a counter, but it has very shaky accuracy makes using it a gamble. Reflect and Light Screen can allow a teammate to set up with ease, even against a boosted sweeper. Rest is Bronzong's only recovery move, and is usable with cleric support.

    Do not be tempted to use Heatproof. Bronzong does not handle Fire-type moves well regardless, and losing Levitate renders it unable to switch into Earthquake and Spikes.

    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Status Absorbers**: In general, these include Pokemon with a resistance to Gyro Ball that have methods of dealing with Toxic, such as RestTalk Kyogre, Rest Palkia, Calm Mind + Refresh Water Arceus, and RestTalk Giratina.

    **Taunt Users**: Gengar, Darkrai, Mewtwo, and Yveltal in particular are all capable of removing Bronzong with a super effective move. However, the first three are hit very hard by Gyro Ball due to their high Speed and frailty.

    **Fire-types**: Ho-Oh stands out, as it doesn't mind Toxic due to recovery from Regenerator. (It does still, so maybe make a note about Sub Ho-Oh instead) Blaziken and Reshiram can KO Bronzong with a super effective STAB move.

    **Steel-types**: Dialga and Heatran can deal with Bronzong using Fire-type attacks, though Heatran needs to be mindful of Earthquake. Skarmory, Forretress, and Ferrothorn can switch into Bronzong and set up entry hazards, but the latter two should be wary of the odd Hidden Power Fire. Forretress can also use Rapid Spin to remove Stealth Rock. Mold Breaker Excadrill is able to lay down Stealth Rock, use Rapid Spin, and KO Bronzong with Earthquake. It takes heavy damage from Bronzong's own Earthquake, though.
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    Overview
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    Bronzong stands out as one of the best support Pokemon in Ubers. Its Steel typing and ability, Levitate, grant it an immunity to Toxic and most entry hazards as well as nine resistances, including to Stealth Rock and Fairy-type moves. In tandem with its high defenses, a usable HP stat, and a good support movepool, Bronzong can easily switch into numerous important threats, particularly Xerneas. However, Bronzong does have a few major flaws as a defensive Pokemon. It has no reliable recovery move outside of Rest, and it is forced out by most Taunt users. Additionally, it gained two weaknesses in the transition to XY, and permanent rain no longer exists to mitigate its Fire-type Fire weakness. Its former niche as a dual screens user is also considerably less useful due to the newly buffed Defog. These faults aside, Bronzong is a great choice for any team in need of the specific roles it can fulfill.


    Support
    ########
    name: Support
    move 1: Gyro Ball
    move 2: Stealth Rock
    move 3: Toxic
    move 4: Earthquake / Protect
    ability: Levitate
    item: Leftovers
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe
    nature: Sassy

    Moves
    ========

    Gyro Ball is Bronzong's most powerful STAB attack as a result of move due to its low Speed, and it deals a surprisingly large amount of damage to faster opponents. Bronzong makes a great, reliable Stealth Rock user thanks to its plethora of resistances and ability to switch into Toxic and entry hazards with impunity. Toxic gives Bronzong a way to defeat most common walls and Defog users attempting to remove Stealth Rock, most notably bulky Arceus formes. Earthquake rounds off the set and allows Bronzong to hit many Pokemon super effectively that it cannot inflict with Toxic super effectively (sounds like Toxic is the move that's hitting something super effectively), such as Dialga, Heatran, Klefki, and Aegislash. However, Protect can be used instead in order to accumulate another round extra rounds of Leftovers recovery and Toxic damage.

    Several other moves are viable options in the last slot. Hidden Power Ice comes from a surprisingly decent base 79 Special Attack and turns can turn Bronzong into a complete counter to Gliscor and Landorus-T, though it cannot reliably 2HKO them. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire nails Scizor, Genesect, Forretress, and Ferrothorn, but will not OHKO any of them. Rock Slide OHKOes Ho-Oh after Stealth Rock damage. Lastly, Explosion prevents Bronzong from becoming being setup bait and provides can provide another teammate with the opportunity to come in safely.

    Set Details
    ========

    The given EV spread simply makes Bronzong as specially bulky as possible. However, if it needs to become be a true counter to Geomancy Xerneas, a Brave nature with a spread of 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD is an option. This will ensure that standard Geomancy Xerneas is always OHKOed by Gyro Ball after it boosts, while also powering up the move in general against other threats as well. Equipping an Iron Plate and moving 28 EVs into Attack from the listed spread also accomplishes this.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Bronzong is a simple Pokemon to use. Switch it in on one of its resistances or immunities and set up Stealth Rock as early in the match as possible, using Gyro Ball, Toxic, and the last move when appropriate. Avoid staying in against walls with RestTalk, especially those that also run Will-O-Wisp. If you require Bronzong to counter a specific Pokemon on your opponent's team, ensure that it is not repeatedly switched in repeatedly and thus worn down.

    Team Options
    ========

    Bronzong does not require much team support of its own, as it provides support itself by virtue of checking Fairy-types and its access to setting up Stealth Rock (parallel structure). It also has great defensive synergy with many common Pokemon in Ubers. Kyogre alleviates Bronzong's Fire-type weakness with Drizzle, though it only lasts for five turns. Yveltal checks Ghost-types and a few other Taunt users. Ho-Oh laughs at Fire-type moves and has no problem taking most Ghost- and Dark-type moves ones. Palkia and Zekrom work similarly in regards to Fire-type moves, and Zekrom is able to check most Taunt users. Fairy-type Pokemon also make good teammates, as they handle Dark-types nicely. As a final note, a teammate with a priority move is required if Bronzong is being used to check Geomancy Xerneas without running one of the alternative spreads mentioned in Set Details. Examples of these include Rayquaza, Arceus, Giratina-O, Genesect, and Kangaskhan.

    Other Options
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    Bronzong has few worthwhile options aside from the ones mentioned. Hypnosis incapacitates a counter, but it has very shaky accuracy and is generally unreliable (I like an added detail here). Reflect and Light Screen can allow a teammate to set up with ease, even against a boosted sweeper. Rest is Bronzong's only recovery move, and is usable with cleric support.

    Do not be tempted to use Heatproof. Bronzong does not handle Fire-type moves well regardless, and losing Levitate renders it unable to switch into Earthquake and Spikes.

    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Status Absorbers**: In general, these include Pokemon with a resistance to that resist Gyro Ball that and have methods ways of dealing with Toxic, such as RestTalk Kyogre, Rest Palkia, Calm Mind + Refresh Water Arceus, and RestTalk Giratina.

    **Taunt Users**: Gengar, Darkrai, Mewtwo, and Yveltal in particular are all capable of removing Bronzong with a super effective move. However, the first three are hit very hard by Gyro Ball due to their high Speed and frailty.

    **Fire-types**: Ho-Oh stands out, as it doesn't mind Toxic due to its recovery from Regenerator, and Substitute sets can avoid Toxic entirely. Blaziken and Reshiram can KO Bronzong with a super effective STAB move.

    **Steel-types**: Dialga and Heatran can deal with Bronzong by using Fire-type attacks, though Heatran needs to be mindful of Earthquake. Skarmory, Forretress, and Ferrothorn can switch into Bronzong and set up entry hazards, but the latter two should be wary of the odd Hidden Power Fire. Forretress can also use Rapid Spin to remove Stealth Rock. Mold Breaker Excadrill is able to lay down Stealth Rock, use Rapid Spin, and KO Bronzong with Earthquake. It However, it takes heavy damage from Bronzong's own Earthquake, though.
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    Overview
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    Bronzong stands out as one of the best support Pokemon in Ubers. Its Steel typing and ability, Levitate, grant it an immunity to Toxic and most entry hazards as well as nine resistances, including to Stealth Rock and Fairy-type moves. In tandem with its high defenses, a usable HP stat, and a good support movepool, Bronzong can easily switch into numerous important threats, particularly Xerneas. However, Bronzong does have a few major flaws as a defensive Pokemon. It has no reliable recovery move outside of Rest, and it is forced out by most Taunt users. Additionally, it gained two weaknesses in the transition to XY, and permanent rain no longer exists to mitigate its Fire weakness. Its former niche as a dual screens user is also considerably less useful due to the newly buffed Defog. These faults aside, Bronzong is a great choice for any team in need of the specific roles it can fulfill.


    Support
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    name: Support
    move 1: Gyro Ball
    move 2: Stealth Rock
    move 3: Toxic
    move 4: Earthquake / Protect
    ability: Levitate
    item: Leftovers
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe
    nature: Sassy

    Moves
    ========

    Gyro Ball is Bronzong's most powerful STAB move due to its low Speed, and it deals a surprisingly large amount of damage to faster opponents. Bronzong makes a great, reliable Stealth Rock user thanks to its plethora of resistances and ability to switch into Toxic and entry hazards with impunity. Toxic gives Bronzong a way to defeat most common walls and Defog users attempting to remove Stealth Rock, most notably bulky Arceus formes. Earthquake rounds off the set and allows Bronzong to hit many Pokemon super effectively that it cannot inflict with Toxic, such as Dialga, Heatran, Klefki, and Aegislash. However, Protect can be used instead in order to accumulate extra rounds of Leftovers recovery and Toxic damage.

    Several other moves are viable options in the last slot. Hidden Power Ice from a surprisingly decent base 79 Special Attack can turn Bronzong into a complete counter to Gliscor and Landorus-T, though it cannot reliably 2HKO them. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire nails Scizor, Genesect, Forretress, and Ferrothorn, but will not OHKO any of them. Rock Slide OHKOes Ho-Oh after Stealth Rock damage. Lastly, Explosion prevents Bronzong from being setup bait and can provide another teammate with the opportunity to come in safely.

    Set Details
    ========

    The given EV spread makes Bronzong as specially bulky as possible. However, if it needs to be a true counter to Geomancy Xerneas, a Brave nature with a spread of 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD is an option. This will ensure that standard Geomancy Xerneas is always OHKOed by Gyro Ball after it boosts, while also powering up the move against other threats as well. Equipping an Iron Plate and moving 28 EVs into Attack from the listed spread also accomplishes this.

    Usage Tips
    ========

    Bronzong is a simple Pokemon to use. Switch it in on one of its resistances or immunities and set up Stealth Rock as early in the match as possible, using Gyro Ball, Toxic, and the last move when appropriate. Avoid staying in against walls with RestTalk, especially those that also run Will-O-Wisp. If you require Bronzong to counter a specific Pokemon on your opponent's team, ensure that it is not repeatedly switched in and thus worn down.

    Team Options
    ========

    Bronzong does not require much team support of its own, as it provides support itself by virtue of checking Fairy-types and setting up Stealth Rock. It also has great defensive synergy with many common Pokemon in Ubers. Kyogre alleviates Bronzong's Fire-type weakness with Drizzle, though it only lasts for five turns. Yveltal checks Ghost-types and a few other Taunt users. Ho-Oh laughs at Fire-type moves and has no problem taking most Ghost- and Dark-type ones. Palkia and Zekrom work similarly in regards to Fire-type moves, and Zekrom is able to check most Taunt users. Fairy-type Pokemon also make good teammates, as they handle Dark-types nicely. As a final note, a teammate with a priority move is required if Bronzong is being used to check Geomancy Xerneas without running one of the alternative spreads mentioned in Set Details. Examples of these include Rayquaza, Arceus, Giratina-O, Genesect, and Kangaskhan.

    Other Options
    ########

    Bronzong has few worthwhile options aside from the ones mentioned. Hypnosis incapacitates a counter, but it has very shaky accuracy and is generally unreliable. Reflect and Light Screen can allow a teammate to set up with ease, even against a boosted sweeper. Rest is Bronzong's only recovery move, and is usable with cleric support.

    Do not be tempted to use Heatproof. Bronzong does not handle Fire-type moves well regardless, and losing Levitate renders it unable to switch into Earthquake and Spikes.

    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Status Absorbers**: In general, these include Pokemon that resist Gyro Ball and have ways of dealing with Toxic, such as RestTalk Kyogre, Rest Palkia, Calm Mind + Refresh Water Arceus, and RestTalk Giratina.

    **Taunt Users**: Gengar, Darkrai, Mewtwo, and Yveltal in particular are all capable of removing Bronzong with a super effective move. However, the first three are hit very hard by Gyro Ball due to their high Speed and frailty.

    **Fire-types**: Ho-Oh stands out, as it doesn't mind Toxic due to its recovery from Regenerator, and Substitute sets can avoid Toxic entirely. Blaziken and Reshiram can KO Bronzong with a super effective STAB move.

    **Steel-types**: Dialga and Heatran can deal with Bronzong by using Fire-type attacks, though Heatran needs to be mindful of Earthquake. Skarmory, Forretress, and Ferrothorn can switch into Bronzong and set up entry hazards, but the latter two should be wary of the odd Hidden Power Fire. Forretress can also use Rapid Spin to remove Stealth Rock. Mold Breaker Excadrill is able to lay down Stealth Rock, use Rapid Spin, and KO Bronzong with Earthquake. However, it takes heavy damage from Bronzong's own Earthquake.
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