Bug Reports v2.0 (READ OP BEFORE POSTING!!)

http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/doublesvgc2013dev8217286

Not sure what happened here on turn 2-4. Zapdos clearly used tailwind which should have doubled my speed. Even if archeops is somehow faster when i'm at a +2 with zapdos, latios should outspeed it without a doubt. Latios outsped archeops turn 1 without tailwind only to be outsped turn 4 with tailwind in effect? I don't see defeatist being put on either mon with skill swap. Also turn 7, with defeastist active, excadrill shouldn't be doing 59% to archeops with rock slide since without it, it does ~80%.

Lol i think something recently broke with speed modifying mechanics now that i see the following 2 posts.
 
This really pissed me off and cost me the match. My opponent was using a tauros that definitely was not scarfed because it switched attacks, and my opponent told me after the match that the tauros was naive natured and maxed speed, and it somehow managed to OUTSPEED and kill my timid choice scarfed celebi. This should not be possible, i don't know if there's a glitch with choice scarf or what but there is definitely something wrong here.
 
Well, I come to you with another bug. This time regarding Speed.

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BakedBean joined.
Format:
RU
Rated battle
Sleep Clause: Limit one foe put to sleep
Species Clause: Limit one of each Pokemon
OHKO Clause: OHKO moves are banned
Moody Clause: Moody is banned
Evasion Moves Clause: Evasion moves are banned
Evasion Abilities Clause: Evasion abilities are banned
BakedBean's team:
Absol / Emboar / Uxie / Sceptile / Nidoqueen / Kabutops
parknrecker1's team:
Cinccino / Mandibuzz / Nidoqueen / Sceptile / Typhlosion / Scyther
DiebeNacht joined.

Battle between parknrecker1 and BakedBean started!
parknrecker1 sent out Nidoqueen!
BakedBean sent out Uxie!

Turn 1
Uxie used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
The foe's Nidoqueen used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around your team!

Turn 2
Uxie used Psychic!
It's super effective! The foe's Nidoqueen lost 57% of its health!
The foe's Nidoqueen used Thunderbolt!
Uxie lost 28% of its health!

Turn 3
Uxie used Psychic!
It's super effective! The foe's Nidoqueen lost 43% of its health!
The foe's Nidoqueen fainted!
parknrecker1 sent out Scyther!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Scyther!

Turn 4
The foe's Scyther used Roost!
The foe's Scyther regained health!
Uxie used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Scyther was paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Turn 5
The foe's Scyther is paralyzed! It can't move!
Uxie used Psychic!
The foe's Scyther lost 37% of its health!


This is where the alarm bells started ringing. It's possible that he had Quick Attack, but why on earth would anyone Quick Attack an Uxie?

Turn 6
The foe's Scyther used Roost!
The foe's Scyther regained health!
Uxie used Psychic!
The foe's Scyther lost 42% of its health!


And yet, here you go. The paralyzed Scyther manages to outspeed a max Speed Uxie with Roost. And I believe that Scyther does NOT get Prankster >_>

Turn 7
BakedBean called Uxie back!
BakedBean sent out Nidoqueen!
Pointed stones dug into Nidoqueen!
The foe's Scyther is paralyzed! It can't move!

Turn 8
The foe's Scyther used Aerial Ace!
Nidoqueen lost 48% of its health!
Nidoqueen used Substitute!
Nidoqueen put in a substitute!
Nidoqueen lost 25% of its health!


Need I go any further?

Turn 9
BakedBean: how on earh are you faster
The foe's Scyther used Aerial Ace!
Nidoqueen's substitute faded!
Nidoqueen used Sludge Wave!
The foe's Scyther lost 58% of its health!
The foe's Scyther fainted!
parknrecker1: max speed
BakedBean: um so am i
BakedBean: fucking bug
BakedBean: PS screwed up again
parknrecker1 sent out Sceptile!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Sceptile!

Turn 10
parknrecker1: ???
The foe's Sceptile used Giga Drain!
Nidoqueen lost 21% of its health!
Nidoqueen had its energy drained!
Nidoqueen fainted!
BakedBean sent out Emboar!
Pointed stones dug into Emboar!

Turn 11
The foe's Sceptile used Acrobatics!
The Flying Gem strengthened Acrobatics's power!
A critical hit! It's super effective! Emboar lost 88% of its health!
Emboar fainted!
BakedBean: what
BakedBean: the hell
BakedBean: im scarf
BakedBean sent out Absol!
Pointed stones dug into Absol!


Apparently I do. This Sceptile managed to outspeed by Scarf Embaor, a feat which is NOT possible. Note that while it WAS an Unburden Sceptile, Unburden hasn't been activated, as Sceptile outsped Emboar before the Flying Gem was consumed.
Turn 12
parknrecker1: i have a higher base speed by enough and im max speed
BakedBean: no
BakedBean: you dont et it
BakedBean: scarf emboar
BakedBean: outspeed max sceptile
Absol used Sucker Punch!
The foe's Sceptile lost 100% of its health!
Absol lost some of its HP!
The foe's Sceptile fainted!
parknrecker1: if u cant deal with it dont play
parknrecker1 sent out Mandibuzz!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Mandibuzz!
Turn 13
BakedBean: this is a stupid bug thats making your team always move first
BakedBean called Absol back!
BakedBean sent out Uxie!
Pointed stones dug into Uxie!
The foe's Mandibuzz used Toxic!
Uxie was badly poisoned!
Uxie ate its Lum Berry!
Uxie was cured of its poisoning.
The foe's Mandibuzz restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 14
BakedBean: 9.9
DiebeNacht: cool it
Uxie used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Mandibuzz was paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
The foe's Mandibuzz used Knock Off!
A critical hit! It's super effective! Uxie lost 17% of its health!
The foe's Mandibuzz restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 15
BakedBean: look sorry
BakedBean: but
BakedBean: it's frustrating
Uxie used Psychic!
It doesn't affect the foe's Mandibuzz...
The foe's Mandibuzz used Foul Play!
It's super effective! Uxie lost 38% of its health!
The foe's Mandibuzz restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 16
Uxie used Psychic!
It doesn't affect the foe's Mandibuzz...
The foe's Mandibuzz used Foul Play!
It's super effective! Uxie lost 5% of its health!
Uxie fainted!
The foe's Mandibuzz restored HP using its Leftovers!
BakedBean sent out Kabutops!
Pointed stones dug into Kabutops!
Turn 17
Kabutops used Stone Edge!
It's super effective! The foe's Mandibuzz lost 96% of its health!
Kabutops lost some of its HP!
The foe's Mandibuzz is paralyzed! It can't move!
The foe's Mandibuzz restored HP using its Leftovers!
Turn 18
parknrecker1: dang
Kabutops used Aqua Jet!
The foe's Mandibuzz lost 9% of its health!
Kabutops lost some of its HP!
The foe's Mandibuzz fainted!
parknrecker1 sent out Typhlosion!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Typhlosion!
Turn 19
Kabutops used Aqua Jet!
A critical hit! It's super effective! The foe's Typhlosion lost 75% of its health!
Kabutops lost some of its HP!
The foe's Typhlosion fainted!
parknrecker1 sent out Cinccino!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Cinccino!
Turn 20
Kabutops used Aqua Jet!
The foe's Cinccino lost 48% of its health!
Kabutops lost some of its HP!
The foe's Cinccino used Tail Slap!
It's not very effective... Kabutops lost 7% of its health!
Kabutops's Weak Armor raised its Speed!
Kabutops's Weak Armor lowered its Defense!
It's not very effective... Kabutops lost 11% of its health!
Kabutops's Weak Armor raised its Speed!
Kabutops's Weak Armor lowered its Defense!
It's not very effective... Kabutops lost 15% of its health!
Kabutops's Weak Armor raised its Speed!
Kabutops's Weak Armor lowered its Defense!
It's not very effective... Kabutops lost 14% of its health!
Hit 4 time(s)!
Kabutops fainted!
DiebeNacht: lol
BakedBean sent out Absol!
Pointed stones dug into Absol!
Turn 21
parknrecker1: lmao
parknrecker1: gg
BakedBean: :P
BakedBean: that was funny
Absol used Sucker Punch!
The foe's Cinccino lost 40% of its health!
Absol lost some of its HP!
The foe's Cinccino fainted!
BakedBean won the battle!
Ladder updating...
parknrecker1's rating: 1278 → 1276
(-2 for losing)
BakedBean's rating: 1801 → 1805
(+4 for winning)
parknrecker1 left.
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So yeah, that's really pretty irritating. I'm thankful that I was able to win against my opponent, but had I been battling someone more skilled I almost certainly would have lost due to a fault that was not my own. Of course, it may be that I am missing something, but I highly doubt that. If you do figure out what the problem was, please tell me. Even if it's just to tell me that the bug was fixed, because I don't want to ladder until this issue has been resolved. Thank you for your time. I know I came across a little harsh in the log, but I get like that when something unfair happens. I do love the simulator, but this... bugs me.

EDIT: Apparently I'm NOT missing something, as the people posting above me have had identical problems. What has happened to Speed?!?! This has to be fixed pronto
 
Ummm... What was that:

Unknown command: message Attempting to recover from crash.

Zweilous used Fire Fang!
The attack of Zweilous missed!
The foe's Torterra used Earthquake!
Zweilous lost 50% of its health!
The foe's Torterra used Earthquake!
Zweilous lost 20% of its health!

Earthquake 2 times in row?
 
voraciouspotatoo:if you're timid, you win
KingNeedlesThe1st: For Nido? No
Nidoking used Ice Beam!
It's super effective! The foe's Landorus lost 19% of its health!
The foe's Landorus fainted!
The sandstorm rages.
voraciouspotatoo: gg
KingNeedlesThe1st: lol wtf
voraciouspotatoo sent out Skarmory!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Skarmory!

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ANyone know what happened? There's no possible way for Nidoking to outspeed Landorus-I in any way, shape or form unless it's paralyzed (which it wasn't.)
 
Do you know for a fact that the Nidoking wasn't scarfed? Based on your opponent's dialogue, that seems most likely.
I thought the Nidoking is his.
Anyways Nidoking can outspeed if Landorus isn't running speed for w/e reason.

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I heard someone mention this, so I decided to test:
Hitmontop can't learn Mach Punch because it's incompatible with another move
It's a Technician Hitmontop with Fake Out/Mach Punch/Hi Jump Kick/Sucker Punch
I thought this was legal in HG/SS, which means it should also be legal in B/W2
Breed Mach Punch onto a Tyrogue -> Evolve into Hitmonlee and let it learn HJK, breed Mach Punch and HJK from Hitmonlee onto another Tyrogue->Tyrogue gets Fake Out as a starting move->Teach Sucker Punch through HG/SS tutor->Trade to B/W2
Maybe I've missed something, but I'm think that's correct. Normally Male-only pokemon can't pass down level up moves, but HJK/Mach Punch are counted as Egg Moves for Tyrogue iirc :x
 
Choice specs boost not applied

Alright, so my gengar had choice specs on him and did like way less damage than it should have. It seemed like it was a gengar holding a choice specs with no 1.5 boost applied to it. I just did calcs on this one particular persons skarmory and it should do around 108.1% - 127.9% with thunderbolt choice specs.

First my choice specs gengar(timid 112SpAtk evs) using thunderbolt to 48Hp/160SpDef impish skarmory did 75% damage which is odd
http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou8250806

So I asked the same person again to test it again for me, this time with my gengar holding leftovers and did only 77% to skarmory(Which is quite nearly the same with my first battle holding choice specs).
http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou8251458

AND YES Im positive I was holding a choice specs. We even did some tests with mod Hearts(onfire). She even tested it herself and the same exact results. So then she suggested me to report it here so here I am reporting it now

Also, it wasnt just to skarmory gengar failed to do significant amount of damage. He failed to KO a 0hp/0spdef slaking with focus blast, standard breloom with shadow ball, 3Koed a garchomp with shadow ball. Please help, my genger was working fine yesterday but the choice specs boost stopped working starting from today.
 
Intimidate isn't working correctly in double battles.



As you can see, Hitmontop was sent out after Landorus, and Intimidate only worked on Kingdra and not Hitmontop, since Hitmontop wasn't on the field yet.
[EDIT: I meant that Hitmontop's attack didn't fall despite Landorus-T. Hitmontop's Intimidate worked fine.]
 
When my Porygon tried to use Zap Cannon, it didn't paralyze the opposing Terrakion, even though it has a 100% chance to do so:

The foe's Terrakion used Rock Polish!
The foe's Terrakion's Speed sharply rose!
Porygon2 used Zap Cannon!
The attack of Porygon2 missed!
Turn 5
The foe's Terrakion used Rock Polish!
The foe's Terrakion's Speed sharply rose!
Porygon2 used Zap Cannon!
A critical hit! The foe's Terrakion hung on using its Focus Sash!
The foe's Terrakion lost 100% of its health!
Gravity returned to normal!

I don't know whether it was because it was a critical hit or because he had a sash or whatever, but this sort of lost me my game.

Here's a screenshot
http://imgur.com/xElgSsF
 

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When my Porygon tried to use Zap Cannon, it didn't paralyze the opposing Terrakion, even though it has a 100% chance to do so:

The foe's Terrakion used Rock Polish!
The foe's Terrakion's Speed sharply rose!
Porygon2 used Zap Cannon!
The attack of Porygon2 missed!
Turn 5
The foe's Terrakion used Rock Polish!
The foe's Terrakion's Speed sharply rose!
Porygon2 used Zap Cannon!
A critical hit! The foe's Terrakion hung on using its Focus Sash!
The foe's Terrakion lost 100% of its health!
Gravity returned to normal!

I don't know whether it was because it was a critical hit or because he had a sash or whatever, but this sort of lost me my game.

Here's a screenshot
http://imgur.com/xElgSsF
Turn 2:
Porygon2 traced the foe's Landorus's Sheer Force!
 
It's possible that the leftovers recovery only put you very near 100%, and your displayed HP percent rounded up. I'm pretty sure I've had that happen, and then get a leftovers recovery message for 0% the next turn.