Laga
Forever Grande
ok guys, let's start discussing something different. I am moving Amoonguss to A rank because of it's supporting capabilities allowing it to form extremely anti meta trick room setter core alongside (trick room setter here), trick room also being quite the anti meta strategy, considering how focused almost any metagame is around speed. Also, since it apparently works on non TR teams too, I think we should just leave it at A.
My point is, the Amoonguss discussion has literally become discussing the viability of a single fricking ability on the one pokemon that is the discussion topic, whilst the only really notably good poster on this topic is Nollan, especially since he correctly states that we look stupid discussing an ability in a thread where we discuss viability of pokemon. He comes up with great arguments about why he thinks Amoonguss should be A rank, and they are also convincing. Therefore,
And guys, pls come up with some other pokemon that doesn't fit it's tier, everything we need say about Amoonguss has already been said.
Edit: Oh, and take this post as an example if you other peeps want to make "good posts". If you discuss just the pokemon and it's traits, and put forward legitimate reasons as to why you think it should be moved, whilst avoidinggetting mad at people with different opinions arguing. Basically, don't reply to others like "I disagree with you" but more of a "I am of a different opinion that you" approach to your post.
My point is, the Amoonguss discussion has literally become discussing the viability of a single fricking ability on the one pokemon that is the discussion topic, whilst the only really notably good poster on this topic is Nollan, especially since he correctly states that we look stupid discussing an ability in a thread where we discuss viability of pokemon. He comes up with great arguments about why he thinks Amoonguss should be A rank, and they are also convincing. Therefore,
this (and the other one too) is the first post that has enough quality to receive a leaderboard point. Congratulations Nollan!Not to be annoying/stupid or anything, but it honestly seems that rather than discussing the strengths and weaknesses of Amoonguss, we are bickering over the viability of Regenerator in Doubles. Honestly, there are bulky teams that work well and are designed to switch in and out flexibly, and in those, Regenerator can be a considerably viable option. Otherwise, not so much. Also, can we not punch babies, that would be mean ;-;
Anyways, I stand by my last post, arguing Amoonguss's A Rank is deserved through Water and Fighting resistances, as well as the ability to Spore opponents and annoy Trick Room teams (or support them). Honestly, something of its talents (which no other pokemon can replicate entirely) should be A Rank, regardless of whether Regenerator is a good choice on it or not. While it missing out on redirecting Fake Outs and the lot, it can still put things to Sleep WHILE also being capable of redirecting attacks, which nothing else can do reliably (probably something out there with Follow Me + Hypnosis lol). I personally like it more than Togekiss, since (apart from Ice and maybe Fire) it weaknesses are uncommon, it can counter common playstyles, and it can Spore annoying things. Togekiss also has weaknesses to Electric, Ice, and Rock, all three of which you see on a large portion of teams.
In response to nyttyn's post, I would like to say a few things. First off, "zero offensive presense" implies that it literally can't dent anything. Against Rain and Sand, I find its Giga Drain to be very effective, as it not only deals a solid ~40%, it also heals in return, extending longetivity. Also, it is great at soaking up hits due to a much larger selection of resistances than Togekiss, allowing it to last longer than Togekiss in many cases. I will agree on Regenerator being situational, but since you have teammates, you can control a good amount of that "situational" with good 'mons to switch to.
Well, I'm really ashamed that I just repeated my last post with a few tiny additions. Whatevs.
And guys, pls come up with some other pokemon that doesn't fit it's tier, everything we need say about Amoonguss has already been said.
Edit: Oh, and take this post as an example if you other peeps want to make "good posts". If you discuss just the pokemon and it's traits, and put forward legitimate reasons as to why you think it should be moved, whilst avoiding