The first part is true since it's easier to spinblock than it is to spin. All the spinblocker has to do is come in on the move. Spinners have to brave through the harsh attacks from the Ubers flying everywhere, AND bypass the absurdly bulky ghosts. It's part of why I enjoyed using Kabutops, because he's an unorthodox spinner so people won't really see it coming, but also can severely damage Ghostceus and Giratina-O.Or, as likely, you will get spinblocked to death. Sorry, but Ho-Oh is not like Lugia; Lugia's typing allows it to make better use of Pressure. If you're using Pressure Ho-Oh, you're using an inferior Lugia. Also, ALL Ho-Oh sets want that recovery, be it to land more attacks or tank hits.
I had Ghostceus, but it got hit by Toxic. And Ogre, but he kept switching out of it.how can you not have something to beat xatu
people have to get it through their heads that stall teams should have something to beat other stall teams and to not get utterly destroyed by gliscor / xatu
You should run 248 HP as it allows you to get one more SR switch in. I think I'll try to build a team using this guy as my defensive pivot as actually this additional bulk helps alot against mentioned by you targets. Interesting idea, I'll try this guy out.Does this guy has any chance to shine?
Escavalier
Item@Choice Band
Ev /252Hp/252SDef/4Atk
Swarm
-Megahorn
-Pursuit
-Iron Head
-Return/Sleep talk/Whatever
Scizor give this guy series competition, but it has more bulk and a strong Megahorn. For example, Scizor get 2HKO by Specs W-Kyurem but this guy has a good chance to survive and Escavalier can also survive 2 Thunder from Latias in Rain, something Scizor fails to do. With the rise of W-Kyurem and Latias, this guy may have a chance to work even in Uber.
I think that may have been me lol. Did it involve a Xatu walling a Skarmory, and a troll that had stall in its name? If thats the case it was I.Damned to hell with the idiot who came up with Xatu. Srsly, it turns a match between two stallish teams into something from GSC. I had to quit one game because both teams were just switching to avoid PP loss, and it had been over 150 turns.
The real problem is getting two free turns, wobba can provide one, the other can come from baiting a Gira-a switch-in. Unfortunately Gira-a actually has the defense to stomach up a +2 Earthquake and Roar it out, if you rock polished turn 1 while it switched in Groudon won't be able to sweep. Multiscale Lugia and even Pressure Lugia will be able to take a hit, set up reflect, and Whirlwind it out, regardless of the move used (RP or SD). Since Rock Polished Stone Edges tickle while SD gets neutered by Reflect (it sets it up before it moves thanks to that speed). The lack of Fire Punch allows Skarmory to phaze it out. Also Timid Scarf Skymin <- YES I REALIZE ITS NON-EXISTENT, can outspeed after a rock polish and OHKO with seed flare. Wallceus , while rare, can outspeed and WoW Groudon if it Swords Dances and doesn't really care about rock polished EQs.guys if you want easy wins run double dance lum groudon and dual screens something then basically the whole metagame is ohkoed and outsped by a +2/+2 groudon.
the only problem is that stone edge misses sometimes ):
You'd be suprised at how easy it is to alt hide on PS XD. Chances are everyone's on but hiding under alts (MAYBE I AM???).EDIT: anyone else playing on PS? I haven't run into many known names/alts.
well if you see a giratina-a then theres no point in not using sd because 99% of the time they're using that as their groudon switchin (unless you see something even more obvious but it's really hard to run two groudon checks and keeping a viable teamThe real problem is getting two free turns, wobba can provide one, the other can come from baiting a Gira-a switch-in. Unfortunately Gira-a actually has the defense to stomach up a +2 Earthquake and Roar it out, if you rock polished turn 1 while it switched in Groudon won't be able to sweep. Multiscale Lugia and even Pressure Lugia will be able to take a hit, set up reflect, and Whirlwind it out, regardless of the move used (RP or SD). Since Rock Polished Stone Edges tickle while SD gets neutered by Reflect (it sets it up before it moves thanks to that speed). The lack of Fire Punch allows Skarmory to phaze it out. Also Timid Scarf Skymin <- YES I REALIZE ITS NON-EXISTENT, can outspeed after a rock polish and OHKO with seed flare. Wallceus , while rare, can outspeed and WoW Groudon if it Swords Dances and doesn't really care about rock polished EQs.
well, the thing about groudon is that you don't need to really run screens, seeing as you can set up against a lot of things, and it's not like priority is *that* common in ubers (you really only have giratina-o and arceus) so you can set-up against a lot more random shit than other pokemon can (it's even comparable to arceus in its ability to set up against a lot of stuff)
so groudon is basically imo the epitome of bulky setup