CAP 19 CAP 19 - Part 6 - Stat Spread Submissions

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Final Submission

49 HP / 58 ATK / 105 DEF / 139 SPA / 104 SPD / 100 SPE (555 BST)

PT: 118.17
ST: 118.55
PS: 92.591
SS: 228.47
BSR: 302.3664


This spread fits the idea of "break down walls while having other attackers break down you." 49 HP allows Chansey to break Substitute with Seismic Toss while providing a Black Sludge number with 4 HP, and while this seems low, it is made up for by relatively high defense. (Think of Dusknoir, who has the lowest HP of all 3-stage mons.) 100 Speed is the fastest CAP 19 can run while still losing to the slowest offensive threat in our checks list, Landorus. While there is the concern of losing to Gardevoir, Mega Pinsir, and Terrakion, this can be fixed by mons like Scizor, Heatran, Scarf Excadrill, Landorus-T, Skarmory, and Jirachi. The 139 Special Attack enables CAP 19 to be a wallbreaker, breaking down anything not named Chansey. The defenses allow CAP 19 to take a Breloom Bullet Seed / Rock Tomb for the OHKO in return with Sludge Wave and avoid the KO from NP Thundurus if healthy, while still allowing threats like Weavile and Victini to beat CAP 19.

252 SpA Life Orb CAP 19 Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 120 SpD Amoonguss: 222-263 (51.3 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery

252 SpA Life Orb CAP 19 Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Venusaur: 181-214 (49.7 - 58.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Life Orb CAP 19 Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 32 SpD Assault Vest Raikou: 138-164 (42.9 - 51%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Life Orb CAP 19 Sludge Wave vs. 248 HP / 232+ SpD Mega Ampharos: 146-173 (38.1 - 45.1%) -- 9.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

(Mega Charizard X, Magnezone, Latios, Latias, Ferrothorn, Gliscor, Kyurem-B, Mega Manectric, Celebi, and Chesnaught can't switch in safely as they get 2HKO'd by the proper coverage move no matter what, Skarmory, Slowbro and Alomomola just plain lose)

+1 252+ SpA Choice Specs CAP 19 Thunder vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 237-280 (36.9 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Chansey still beats CAP 19 no matter what


252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 187-222 (77.9 - 92.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 196-232 (81.6 - 96.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Extrasensory vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD CAP 19: 283-335 (117.9 - 139.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 273-322 (113.7 - 134.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 226-267 (94.1 - 111.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 235-277 (97.9 - 115.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Choice Band Entei Sacred Fire vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 237-279 (98.7 - 116.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Heatran Overheat vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD CAP 19: 226-267 (94.1 - 111.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Technician Breloom Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 96-114 (40 - 47.5%) -- approx. 34.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Technician Breloom Rock Tomb vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 104-123 (43.3 - 51.2%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 99-117 (41.2 - 48.7%) -- 80.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 4 HP / 0 Def CAP 19: 128-151 (53.3 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

+2 252 SpA Thundurus Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD CAP 19: 138-163 (57.5 - 67.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Mega Manectric Overheat vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD CAP 19: 141-167 (58.7 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

-2 252 SpA Mega Manectric Overheat vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD CAP 19: 71-84 (29.5 - 35%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
 
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Bughouse

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CAP 19 wants to break certain walls and discourage sweepers from setting up. The most notable accomplishment of 130 SpA is the following:

252 SpA CAP 19 Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Garchomp: 336-396 (94.1 - 110.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
I just wanted to point out that you are calcing here against a -nature Garchomp, which is rather convenient. Swords Dance Garchomp will be Jolly basically 100% of the time. so really, it's a 0% chance to OHKO, below 50% even with Stealth Rock.

Also, I'm currently editing in the last of what I need and will mark my post as final shortly.


EDIT: Marked mine as final, and I made a spreadsheet with all the final subs for those interested

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rzASoVvf4Cc6GWgsrm50K5f2qBty-celiXpidCQubpw/edit?usp=sharing
 
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Thanks for pointing out my mistake, srk. Made my submission final with more calculations (based on alexwolf's list) and remembering I also had 130 because of Excadrill.
 

Illusio

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Final Submission

75/70/90/135/90/95 BST: 555

PT: 127.982
ST: 129.392
PS: 106.261
SS: 208.492
BSR: 311.675

These stats lead to a much more balanced 'mon than some of the other suggestions, with the only amazing stat being the Special Attack. Other than that though, the Pokemon is very balanced.
 

Deck Knight

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Slate considerations:

I looked at all the submissions that had sufficient justification, and then ordered them by speed and physical tankiness, the mix of which I think is most vital to our interests given the task of choosing a speed tier and dealing with the priority Gyarados can't handle. I also wanted spreads that would operate differently if they were in the same speed tier, as we had multiple submissions with Base 100 Speed. Naturally, submissions with sparse justification were not considered without something particularly unique or compelling about them. The slate will be as follows:

HeaLnDeaL
Dogfish44
srk1214
capefeather
Qwilphish
Dragonblaze052
Elite Lord Sigma

Pwnemon will make a decision on the final slate, and we'll be ready for the next phase.

Thank you for all of your work on submissions. If you didn't make the cut, please look to these spreads as examples for what to look for in future CAP projects, and do try, try again!
 

Stratos

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I'd like to comment on the picks.

We tried to pick one of each speed tier. <100 (which there were sadly none of), 100, 101, 106, 109, and >109. We picked multiples from 100 because those were the most common. HeaL's spread is for those who really seek to maximize the physical bulk of this CAP. Dogfish44's and srk1214's approached the CB talon problem from different angles: one discouraged using brave bird, while the other tried to bait it into using flare blitz. Both are valid options, so we slated both. Among the higher speeds, there was only at most one other competition that we had to axe. In the case of 106, the differences were so minimal, that P3DS basically lost by luck. Sorry buddy, I've been there before :(. With 109 Speed, Dragonblaze052's spread was picked because the justification for wh0syourpapa's PT was really weird (living cb talon flare blitz with no rocks is a calc that is both sorta unrealistic and sorta pointless). However, I've had a change of heart on his spread because of the extremely low SpD of dragonblaze052's spread, which I don't want to put off people who would otherwise vote for a 109 Speed CAP. So I'll be +1'ing wh0syourpapa to this slate.
 
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