And Colossoil is exceptionally powerful as is. However, it's difficult to see how it could really be retooled, from my perspective.
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CAP 5th Generation Revamp: Colossoil
- Thread starter Deck Knight
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Well it's good thing I just suggested a way to weaken him, ever so slightly.
Why not have Rebound be a "free, can be activated Rapid Spin" that costs no energy and bypasses type immunities, but has all repercussions of Rapid Spin and is Tauntable?
Or you could make Rebound a Magic Bounce that only works on the turn Collosoil switches in (like Syclant's Mountanier), altough if this is too powerful (it is) It could return a random hazzard from the ones that are on the field (or just being unaffected by hazzards in general might work)
...Given we haven't had discussion here in over a month, why haven't we moved on to Krill, Syclant, Stratagem, or Voodoom yet?
...Can we at least close this and finalize the changes to Soil we've already started?
Bumping my proposal to close this and finalize the changes to Colossoil we've started.
What's happening about this?
So I way dropped the ball on this. Which is amusing because I had a post made up and I said "eh, I'll do it later." Then six months of later happened.
In any case, the whole thing needs an update and I'll get to that now.
Deleted Moves:
Crunch (+1 MC) and Sunny Day (+2 MC) can no longer be learned by Colosshale.
Torment (+2 MC) and Venoshock (+2MC) have been removed entirely.
New Moves:
Drill Run is a Lv 0 Colossoil move.
Foul Play is an Egg Move.
Additional Non-CAP canon moves are Bubblebeam (Lv), Bulldoze (TM), Dragon Tail (Soil TM), Echoed Voice(TM), Mud Bomb (Egg), Mud Shot (Egg), Muddy Water (Lv), Quash (TM), Retaliate (TM), Round (TM), Sludge Bomb (TM), Sludge Wave (TM), Smack Down (Soil TM), Snarl (TM), Tackle (Lv), and Water Spout (Egg).
Move Shifts:
Aqua Tail and Dive are now Previous Gen Tutor only.
Dark Pulse is now Previous Gen TM Only.
Dig is now Level-Up Only.
Mud Bomb and Mud Shot are now Egg only.
New Lv 25 Moveset for Colosshale:
0 Leer
0 Tackle
6 Bubblebeam
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
Other Notes:
The change to Rebound's text officially ocurred quite a while ago in the DAT, somehow it never got changed in the CAP data. It is the correct description of Rebound.
In any case, the whole thing needs an update and I'll get to that now.
Colosshale:
Height: 6' 11"
Weight: 1205.6 lbs / 548 kg
Evolution: Colosshale -> Level-Up with Dig -> Colossoil
Type: Dark/Water
Dark: Dark STAB; Immunity to all telepathic and telekinetic attacks, better performance in all darkened and especially twilight conditions. Can use any Dark-type attack regardless of Attraction.
Water: Water STAB; Can breathe and have excellent mobility when underwater, are less capable on land unless they are entirely amphibious.
Abilities:
Rebound: (Can Be Activated) The Pokemon is able to bounce one layer of an entry hazard back from their side of the field to the other side with their immense strength and intuition.
Storm Drain: (Innate) This Pokemon lures all water attacks to itself, altering their course away from partner Pokemon. It absorbs the water and increases its Special Attack by one (1) stage. This boost is maintained at the end of each round.
Flare Boost (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon's body can harness the heat from a burn into internal energy, fueling its mental capabilities. When Burned, the Pokemon's special attacks have two (2) more Base Attack Power.
Stats: 83 / 42 / 52 / 71 / 62 / 85
HP: 100
Atk: Rank 2
Def: Rank 2
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 85
Size Class: 4
Weight Class: 9
Base Rank Total: 16
4th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Leer
0 Tackle
6 Bubblebeam
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
29 Pursuit
35 Bounce
41 Dig
42 Magnitude
48 Stockpile
48 Swallow
48 Spit Up
55 Muddy Water
5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Leer
0 Tackle
6 Bubblebeam
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
29 Pursuit
35 Bounce
41 Dig
42 Magnitude
48 Stockpile
48 Swallow
48 Spit Up
55 Muddy Water
Egg Moves:
Double-Edge
Encore
Fake Out
Fire Fang
Fissure
Flail
Foul Play
Horn Drill
Mud Bomb
Mud Shot
Sand Tomb
Screech
Sucker Punch
Thunder Fang
Water Spout
4th Gen Tutor Moves:
AncientPower
Aqua Tail
Bounce
Dive
Earth Power
Knock Off
Rollout
Snore
Sucker Punch
4th Gen TMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Iron Tail
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM49 Snatch
TM58 Endure
TM63 Embargo
TM66 Payback
TM78 Captivate
TM79 Dark Pulse
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM87 Swagger
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
HM04 Strength
HM06 Rock Smash
5th Gen TMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Sludge Wave
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM60 Quash
TM63 Embargo
TM66 Payback
TM67 Retaliate
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM87 Swagger
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM94 Rock Smash
TM95 Snarl
HM04 Strength
Height: 6' 11"
Weight: 1205.6 lbs / 548 kg
Evolution: Colosshale -> Level-Up with Dig -> Colossoil
Type: Dark/Water
Dark: Dark STAB; Immunity to all telepathic and telekinetic attacks, better performance in all darkened and especially twilight conditions. Can use any Dark-type attack regardless of Attraction.
Water: Water STAB; Can breathe and have excellent mobility when underwater, are less capable on land unless they are entirely amphibious.
Abilities:
Rebound: (Can Be Activated) The Pokemon is able to bounce one layer of an entry hazard back from their side of the field to the other side with their immense strength and intuition.
Storm Drain: (Innate) This Pokemon lures all water attacks to itself, altering their course away from partner Pokemon. It absorbs the water and increases its Special Attack by one (1) stage. This boost is maintained at the end of each round.
Flare Boost (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon's body can harness the heat from a burn into internal energy, fueling its mental capabilities. When Burned, the Pokemon's special attacks have two (2) more Base Attack Power.
Stats: 83 / 42 / 52 / 71 / 62 / 85
HP: 100
Atk: Rank 2
Def: Rank 2
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 85
Size Class: 4
Weight Class: 9
Base Rank Total: 16
4th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Leer
0 Tackle
6 Bubblebeam
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
29 Pursuit
35 Bounce
41 Dig
42 Magnitude
48 Stockpile
48 Swallow
48 Spit Up
55 Muddy Water
5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Leer
0 Tackle
6 Bubblebeam
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
29 Pursuit
35 Bounce
41 Dig
42 Magnitude
48 Stockpile
48 Swallow
48 Spit Up
55 Muddy Water
Egg Moves:
Double-Edge
Encore
Fake Out
Fire Fang
Fissure
Flail
Foul Play
Horn Drill
Mud Bomb
Mud Shot
Sand Tomb
Screech
Sucker Punch
Thunder Fang
Water Spout
4th Gen Tutor Moves:
AncientPower
Aqua Tail
Bounce
Dive
Earth Power
Knock Off
Rollout
Snore
Sucker Punch
4th Gen TMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Iron Tail
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM49 Snatch
TM58 Endure
TM63 Embargo
TM66 Payback
TM78 Captivate
TM79 Dark Pulse
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM87 Swagger
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
HM04 Strength
HM06 Rock Smash
5th Gen TMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Sludge Wave
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM60 Quash
TM63 Embargo
TM66 Payback
TM67 Retaliate
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM87 Swagger
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM94 Rock Smash
TM95 Snarl
HM04 Strength
Colossoil:
Height: 8' 8"
Weight: 1504.8 lbs / 684 kg
Evolution: Colosshale -> Level-Up with Dig -> Colossoil
Type: Dark/Ground
Dark: Dark STAB; Immunity to all telepathic and telekinetic attacks, better performance in all darkened and especially twilight conditions. Can use any Dark-type attack regardless of Attraction.
Ground: Ground STAB; Immune to all electrical attacks, can Dig through almost any substance, Evasive Digging reduced from 3 per action Energy Cost to 2 per action, superior senses in darkened cave surroundings.
Abilities:
Rebound: (Can Be Activated) The Pokemon is able to bounce one layer of an entry hazard back from their side of the field to the other side with their immense strength and intuition.
Guts: (Innate) This Pokemon is tenacious and will work ever harder when under a status condition, raising the base attack power of all its physical attacks by two (2). Pokemon with Guts ignore the attack drop from burn.
Pressure (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon’s presence fills the air with intense anxiety, and any damaging or status attack launched at this Pokemon costs the opposing Pokemon two (2) more energy to perform.
Stats: 133 / 122 / 72 / 71 / 72 / 95
Colossoil
HP: 120
Atk: Rank 5
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 95
Size Class: 5
Weight Class: 10
Base Rank Total: 22
4th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Leer
0 Peck
6 Horn Attack
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
29 Pursuit
35 Bounce
42 Magnitude
48 Stockpile
48 Swallow
48 Spit Up
55 Crunch
63 Megahorn
70 Horn Drill
5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Drill Run
0 Leer
0 Peck
6 Horn Attack
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
29 Pursuit
35 Bounce
42 Magnitude
48 Stockpile
48 Swallow
48 Spit Up
55 Crunch
63 Megahorn
70 Horn Drill
Egg Moves:
Double-Edge
Encore
Fake Out
Fire Fang
Fissure
Flail
Foul Play
Horn Drill
Mud Bomb
Mud Shot
Sand Tomb
Screech
Sucker Punch
Thunder Fang
Water Spout
4th Gen Tutors:
AncientPower
Aqua Tail
Body Slam
Bounce
Dive
Earth Power
Knock Off
Rollout
Snore
Sucker Punch
Superpower
4th Gen TMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM12 Taunt
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Iron Tail
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM37 Sandstorm
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM49 Snatch
TM58 Endure
TM63 Embargo
TM66 Payback
TM68 Giga Impact
TM71 Stone Edge
TM78 Captivate
TM79 Dark Pulse
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM87 Swagger
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
HM04 Strength
HM06 Rock Smash
5th Gen TMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM12 Taunt
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Smack Down
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Sludge Wave
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM37 Sandstorm
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM60 Quash
TM63 Embargo
TM66 Payback
TM67 Retaliate
TM71 Stone Edge
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM84 Poison Jab
TM87 Swagger
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM94 Rock Smash
TM95 Snarl
HM04 Strength
Height: 8' 8"
Weight: 1504.8 lbs / 684 kg
Evolution: Colosshale -> Level-Up with Dig -> Colossoil
Type: Dark/Ground
Dark: Dark STAB; Immunity to all telepathic and telekinetic attacks, better performance in all darkened and especially twilight conditions. Can use any Dark-type attack regardless of Attraction.
Ground: Ground STAB; Immune to all electrical attacks, can Dig through almost any substance, Evasive Digging reduced from 3 per action Energy Cost to 2 per action, superior senses in darkened cave surroundings.
Abilities:
Rebound: (Can Be Activated) The Pokemon is able to bounce one layer of an entry hazard back from their side of the field to the other side with their immense strength and intuition.
Guts: (Innate) This Pokemon is tenacious and will work ever harder when under a status condition, raising the base attack power of all its physical attacks by two (2). Pokemon with Guts ignore the attack drop from burn.
Pressure (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon’s presence fills the air with intense anxiety, and any damaging or status attack launched at this Pokemon costs the opposing Pokemon two (2) more energy to perform.
Stats: 133 / 122 / 72 / 71 / 72 / 95
Colossoil
HP: 120
Atk: Rank 5
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 95
Size Class: 5
Weight Class: 10
Base Rank Total: 22
4th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Leer
0 Peck
6 Horn Attack
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
29 Pursuit
35 Bounce
42 Magnitude
48 Stockpile
48 Swallow
48 Spit Up
55 Crunch
63 Megahorn
70 Horn Drill
5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Drill Run
0 Leer
0 Peck
6 Horn Attack
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
29 Pursuit
35 Bounce
42 Magnitude
48 Stockpile
48 Swallow
48 Spit Up
55 Crunch
63 Megahorn
70 Horn Drill
Egg Moves:
Double-Edge
Encore
Fake Out
Fire Fang
Fissure
Flail
Foul Play
Horn Drill
Mud Bomb
Mud Shot
Sand Tomb
Screech
Sucker Punch
Thunder Fang
Water Spout
4th Gen Tutors:
AncientPower
Aqua Tail
Body Slam
Bounce
Dive
Earth Power
Knock Off
Rollout
Snore
Sucker Punch
Superpower
4th Gen TMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM12 Taunt
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Iron Tail
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM37 Sandstorm
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM49 Snatch
TM58 Endure
TM63 Embargo
TM66 Payback
TM68 Giga Impact
TM71 Stone Edge
TM78 Captivate
TM79 Dark Pulse
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM87 Swagger
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
HM04 Strength
HM06 Rock Smash
5th Gen TMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM12 Taunt
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Smack Down
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Sludge Wave
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM37 Sandstorm
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM60 Quash
TM63 Embargo
TM66 Payback
TM67 Retaliate
TM71 Stone Edge
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM84 Poison Jab
TM87 Swagger
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM94 Rock Smash
TM95 Snarl
HM04 Strength
Deleted Moves:
Crunch (+1 MC) and Sunny Day (+2 MC) can no longer be learned by Colosshale.
Torment (+2 MC) and Venoshock (+2MC) have been removed entirely.
New Moves:
Drill Run is a Lv 0 Colossoil move.
Foul Play is an Egg Move.
Additional Non-CAP canon moves are Bubblebeam (Lv), Bulldoze (TM), Dragon Tail (Soil TM), Echoed Voice(TM), Mud Bomb (Egg), Mud Shot (Egg), Muddy Water (Lv), Quash (TM), Retaliate (TM), Round (TM), Sludge Bomb (TM), Sludge Wave (TM), Smack Down (Soil TM), Snarl (TM), Tackle (Lv), and Water Spout (Egg).
Move Shifts:
Aqua Tail and Dive are now Previous Gen Tutor only.
Dark Pulse is now Previous Gen TM Only.
Dig is now Level-Up Only.
Mud Bomb and Mud Shot are now Egg only.
New Lv 25 Moveset for Colosshale:
0 Leer
0 Tackle
6 Bubblebeam
11 Bite
17 Rapid Spin
22 Body Slam
Other Notes:
The change to Rebound's text officially ocurred quite a while ago in the DAT, somehow it never got changed in the CAP data. It is the correct description of Rebound.
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