Discussion CAP 5th Generation Revamp: Cyclohm

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Deck Knight

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...Think we could add DragonBreath to Monohm's levelup movepool? (heck, we could even make it level 26...) It isn't much, but in-game it would give Monohm a useful STAB before Dragon Pulse.

Secondly, think we could say Monohm evolves into Duchlom at level 33 and into Cyclohm at level 44? It seems more consistent with Ohm's general power level and (to a lesser extent) B/W evolution habits.
Cyclohm is still a 4th Gen mon for CAP's purposes, and as the creator of Cyclohm's initial movepool, I can tell you that's the reason Double Hit is at 22 and Tri Attack is at 33, those being the respective evolutions.

Dragonbreath is already an Egg move, and I'm trying not to upend the level-up movepool too much, that's what made Pyroak so powerful and perhaps Arghonaut too limited.

Finalized Movepool:

Monohm:

5th Gen Level-Up:
0 Tackle
0 Growl
5 Twister
7 Dragon Rage
11 Charge
15 Thundershock
21 Rain Dance
25 Sonicboom
31 Dragon Tail
35 Discharge
41 Slack Off
45 Dragon Pulse
51 Hurricane
55 Weather Ball
61 Zap Cannon

Egg Moves:
Dragon Dance
Dragon Rush
DragonBreath
Gust
Heal Bell
Hydro Pump
Mud-Slap
Power Gem
Shock Wave
Spark
Thrash
Water Pulse

5th Gen TMs:
TM01 Hone Claws
TM02 Dragon Claw
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM57 Charge Beam
TM59 Incinerate
TM70 Flash
TM72 Volt Switch
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM90 Substitute
TM92 Trick Room
TM93 Wild Charge
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM05 Waterfall

Effect: With the exception of moving Zap Cannon back and making Weather Ball available to the entire line, the level-up movepool is basically the same levels.

Twister was added to the front since Monohm's line are essentially weather incarnations, but otherwise it picks up no (Lv </= 25 Moves). Dragon Tail is added to the middle to keep some consistency, and then Dragon Pulse, Hurricane, and Weather Ball follow as upper level moves.

Spark and Thrash were added to the Egg Movepool, so Cyclohm can keep Spark (new 5th Gen Level-Up), it just needs to be moved to Egg (No effect on MC). New additions are Gust, Dragon Dance, and Dragon Rush. (Only Gust was not previously available).

Signal Beam has been removed from the Egg Movepool, however it still exists as a 4th Gen Tutor, which has the same cost. Simply move it from Eggs to Tutors if you already have it.

Echoed Voice has been removed from TMs. (2 MC)

Taunt has also been removed from TMs, as upon review Cyclohm never had it in 4th Gen. (2 MC)

Total MC Reimbursement:
If you had Echoed Voice, +2 (BW TM)
If you had Taunt, +2 (BW TM)

Duclohm and Cyclohm will effectively have the same movepools, save they'll add Double Hit and Tri Attack respectively, and Cyclohm's TM Movepool includes Bulldoze.
 

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Final Product:

Monohm:



Height: 2' 4"
Weight: 41.8 lbs / 19 kg
Evolution: Monohm --Level 22--> Duclohm --Level 33--> Cyclohm
Type: Electric/Dragon
Electric: Electric STAB; 50% reduction in paralysis chance from other electrical attacks, perfect accuracy and 30% chance of Protect breaking Thunder during Rain. Superior senses in power plant environments.
Dragon: Dragon STAB; More in touch with legendary or special auras in arenas. Able to use Hyper Beam and Giga Impact without losing focus.

Abilities:
Shield Dust: (Innate) This pokemon has dust covering the outside of its body that prevents opponents secondary effects from taking place (eg burn from Flamethrower). It does not block direct status moves (such as Thunder Wave.)
Static: (Innate) This pokemon’s body is surrounded by an electric field that has a 30% chance of paralyzing opponents that use contact moves on this pokemon.
Overcoat (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon has a sturdy exterior that rebuffs the elements, making it immune to damage inflicted by bad weather. If the Pokemon is already immune to at least one (1) kind of weather by typing or a different ability, Overcoat reduces the Base Attack Power of all oncoming attacks by one (1).

Stats: 48 / 50 / 68 / 62 / 40 / 60

HP: 90
Atk: Rank 2
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 2
Spe: 60
Size Class: 1
Weight Class: 2
Base Rank Total: 14

4th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Tackle
0 Growl
7 Dragon Rage
11 Charge
15 Thundershock
19 Rain Dance
25 Sonicboom
29 Discharge
33 Slack Off
37 Thrash
42 Zap Cannon

5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Tackle
0 Growl
5 Twister
7 Dragon Rage
11 Charge
15 Thundershock
21 Rain Dance
25 Sonicboom
31 Dragon Tail
35 Discharge
41 Slack Off
45 Dragon Pulse
51 Hurricane
55 Weather Ball
61 Zap Cannon

Egg Moves:
Dragon Dance
Dragon Rush
DragonBreath
Gust
Heal Bell
Hydro Pump
Magnet Rise
Mud-Slap
Power Gem
Shock Wave
Spark
Thrash
Water Pulse

4th Gen Tutor Moves:
Draco Meteor
Headbutt
Mud-Slap
Outrage
Signal Beam
Snore
Swift
Twister

5th Gen Tutor Moves:
Draco Meteor

4th Gen TMs:
TM02 Dragon Claw
TM03 Water Pulse
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Shock Wave
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM57 Charge Beam
TM58 Endure
TM59 Dragon Pulse
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM78 Captivate
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM90 Substitute
TM92 Trick Room
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM07 Waterfall

5th Gen TMs:
TM01 Hone Claws
TM02 Dragon Claw
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM57 Charge Beam
TM59 Incinerate
TM70 Flash
TM72 Volt Switch
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM90 Substitute
TM92 Trick Room
TM93 Wild Charge
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM05 Waterfall

Duclohm:



Height: 3'4"
Weight: 86.8 lbs / 39 kg
Evolution: Monohm --Level 22--> Duclohm --Level 33--> Cyclohm
Type: Electric/Dragon
Electric: Electric STAB; 50% reduction in paralysis chance from other electrical attacks, perfect accuracy and 30% chance of Protect breaking Thunder during Rain. Superior senses in power plant environments.
Dragon: Dragon STAB; More in touch with legendary or special auras in arenas. Able to use Hyper Beam and Giga Impact without losing focus.

Abilities:
Shield Dust: (Innate) This pokemon has dust covering the outside of its body that prevents opponents secondary effects from taking place (eg burn from Flamethrower). It does not block direct status moves (such as Thunder Wave.)
Static: (Innate) This pokemon’s body is surrounded by an electric field that has a 30% chance of paralyzing opponents that use contact moves on this pokemon.
Overcoat (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon has a sturdy exterior that rebuffs the elements, making it immune to damage inflicted by bad weather. If the Pokemon is already immune to at least one (1) kind of weather by typing or a different ability, Overcoat reduces the Base Attack Power of all oncoming attacks by one (1).

Stats: 78 / 55 / 88 / 82 / 55 / 60

HP: 100
Atk: Rank 2
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 2
Spe: 60
Size Class: 2
Weight Class: 3
Base Rank Total: 15

4th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Tackle
0 Growl
7 Dragon Rage
11 Charge
15 Thundershock
19 Rain Dance
22 Double Hit
29 Sonicboom
35 Discharge
39 Slack Off
44 Thrash
53 Zap Cannon

5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Double Hit
0 Tackle
0 Growl
5 Twister
7 Dragon Rage
11 Charge
15 Thundershock
21 Rain Dance
22 Double Hit
27 Sonicboom
33 Dragon Tail
39 Discharge
47 Slack Off
53 Dragon Pulse
61 Hurricane
67 Weather Ball
75 Zap Cannon

Egg Moves:
Dragon Dance
Dragon Rush
DragonBreath
Gust
Heal Bell
Hydro Pump
Magnet Rise
Mud-Slap
Power Gem
Shock Wave
Spark
Thrash
Water Pulse

4th Gen Tutor Moves:
Draco Meteor
Headbutt
Mud-Slap
Outrage
Signal Beam
Snore
Swift
Twister

5th Gen Tutor Moves:
Draco Meteor

4th Gen TMs:
TM02 Dragon Claw
TM03 Water Pulse
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Shock Wave
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM57 Charge Beam
TM58 Endure
TM59 Dragon Pulse
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM78 Captivate
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM90 Substitute
TM92 Trick Room
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM07 Waterfall

5th Gen TMs:
TM01 Hone Claws
TM02 Dragon Claw
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM57 Charge Beam
TM59 Incinerate
TM70 Flash
TM72 Volt Switch
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM90 Substitute
TM92 Trick Room
TM93 Wild Charge
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM05 Waterfall

Cyclohm:



Height: 5'4"
Weight: 129.8 kbs / 59 kg.
Evolution: Monohm --Level 22--> Duclohm --Level 33--> Cyclohm
Type: Electric/Dragon
Electric: Electric STAB; 50% reduction in paralysis chance from other electrical attacks, perfact accuracy and 30% chance of Protect breaking Thunder during Rain.
Dragon: Dragon STAB; More in touch with legendary or special auras in arenas. Able to use Hyper Beam and Giga Impact without losing focus.

Abilities:
Shield Dust: (Innate) This pokemon has dust covering the outside of its body that prevents opponents secondary effects from taking place (eg burn from Flamethrower). It does not block direct status moves (such as Thunder Wave.)
Static: (Innate) This pokemon’s body is surrounded by an electric field that has a 30% chance of paralyzing opponents that use contact moves on this pokemon.
Overcoat (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon has a sturdy exterior that rebuffs the elements, making it immune to damage inflicted by bad weather. If the Pokemon is already immune to at least one (1) kind of weather by typing or a different ability, Overcoat reduces the Base Attack Power of all oncoming attacks by one (1).

Stats: 108 / 60 / 118 / 112 / 70 / 80

HP: 110
Atk: Rank 2
Def: Rank 4
SpA: Rank 4
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 80
Size Class: 4
Weight Class: 4
Base Rank Total: 20

4th Gen Level-Up Moves
0 Whirlwind
0 Bide
0 Tackle
0 Growl
7 Dragon Rage
11 Charge
15 Thundershock
19 Rain Dance
22 Double Hit
29 Sonicboom
33 Tri Attack
37 Discharge
42 Slack Off
50 Thrash
59 Zap Cannon

5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Whirlwind
0 Bide
0 Weather Ball
0 Tri Attack
0 Tackle
0 Growl
0 Leer
5 Twister
7 Dragon Rage
11 Charge
15 Thundershock
21 Rain Dance
22 Double Hit
27 Sonicboom
33 Dragon Tail
33 Tri Attack
39 Discharge
47 Slack Off
53 Dragon Pulse
61 Hurricane
67 Weather Ball
75 Zap Cannon
81 Outrage

Egg Moves:
Dragon Dance
Dragon Rush
DragonBreath
Gust
Heal Bell
Hydro Pump
Magnet Rise
Mud-Slap
Power Gem
Shock Wave
Spark
Thrash
Water Pulse

4th Gen Tutor Moves:
Draco Meteor
Headbutt
Mud-Slap
Outrage
Signal Beam
Snore
Swift
Twister

5th Gen Tutor Moves:
Draco Meteor

4th Gen TMs:
TM02 Dragon Claw
TM03 Water Pulse
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Shock Wave
TM35 Flamethrower
TM37 Sandstorm
TM38 Fire Blast
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM57 Charge Beam
TM58 Endure
TM59 Dragon Pulse
TM68 Giga Impact
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM78 Captivate
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM90 Substitute
TM92 Trick Room
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM07 Waterfall

5th Gen TMs:
TM01 Hone Claws
TM02 Dragon Claw
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM37 Sandstorm
TM38 Fire Blast
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM57 Charge Beam
TM59 Incinerate
TM68 Giga Impact
TM70 Flash
TM72 Volt Switch
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM78 Bulldoze
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM90 Substitute
TM92 Trick Room
TM93 Wild Charge
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM05 Waterfall


Move Notes:
Cylcohm still possesses Leer, but Monohm and Duclohm have lost it (Level </=25). This affects starting Level-up movepools, which must now remove Leer and cannot contain Spark.
Spark has been moved from Level-Up to Egg
Signal Beam has been moved from Egg to exclusively 4th Gen Tutors.
Dragon Pulse has been moved from past Gen TMs to Level-Up.
Outage is now a Level-up Move exclusively for Cyclohm.
Hail has been added to Monohm and Duclohm's TM List.

Reimbursement Notes:
If you had Echoed Voice (BW TM), +2MC
If you had Taunt (BW TM), +2 MC
 

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Taunt has also been removed from TMs, as upon review Cyclohm never had it in 4th Gen. (2 MC)
I actually made this point before, but it was pointed out that it was incorrect. So I did a little research into it. While the CAP website does not have it in its movepool, the movepool presented in the CAP 8 - Final Product thread does actually include Taunt.

EDIT: Ah, yes, I had thought there was something like that, but I couldn't find it. But with a little more searching, I see that that is correct. Which mean I was right in the first place... So never mind.
 
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Final products are outdated threads. The first 10. CAPs all had extensive movepool revisions more than a year ago in an attempt to normalize CAP movepools with in-game standards. That's why Draco Meteor Kril no longer exists.
 
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