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CAP 17 CAP 6 - Playtest

Discussion in 'CAP Process Archive' started by Birkal, Nov 15, 2013.

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  1. MQJinx

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    Cawmodore was definitely a formidable addition to hyper offensive teams. The only way to wall it was to use Quagsire, who isn't even that viable in OU. Scarfers like Heatran, Rotom-W, and Keldeo were all suitable checks at first. Then once we discovered a viable SubSalac set, those scarfers were eliminated before they could even do anything. The most trouble I've had on was dealing with sun teams as they can easily threaten to check Cawmodore and have Dugtrio for Heatran. Rain teams were tricky too, but they were more manageable for my team. Oddly enough, I've only encountered a few sand teams, and most of those I won against, and I've never faced a hail team. Anyway, here is the final version of my hyper offensive Cawmodore team:
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    Cawmodore @ Salac Berry
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 252 Atk / 24 SDef / 232 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    IVs: 30 HP
    - Belly Drum
    - Substitute
    - Drain Punch
    - Acrobatics

    Smeargle @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Own Tempo
    EVs: 252 Spd / 4 HP / 252 Def
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Stealth Rock
    - Magic Coat
    - Spikes
    - Spore

    Latios @ Light Clay
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Light Screen
    - Reflect
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Memento

    Heatran @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 112 HP / 160 SAtk / 236 Spd
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
    - Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Flamethrower

    Gengar @ Black Sludge
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Disable
    - Focus Blast
    - Shadow Ball
    - Substitute

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Hydro Pump
    - Thunderbolt
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2013
  2. PttP

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    This is the team I ended up using for the playtest:

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    Politoed @ Leftovers
    Ability: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Scald
    - Protect
    - Toxic
    - Perish Song

    Keldeo-Resolute @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Justified
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
    Timid Nature
    - Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Icy Wind
    - Secret Sword
    - Surf

    Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 252 HP / 176 SDef / 80 Def
    Sassy Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Stealth Rock
    - Leech Seed
    - Thunder
    - Gyro Ball

    Thundurus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 128 Spd / 252 SAtk / 128 HP
    Modest Nature
    - Nasty Plot
    - Agility
    - Thunder
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Cawmodore @ Flying Gem
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
    Jolly Nature
    - Acrobatics
    - Belly Drum
    - Bullet Punch
    - Drain Punch

    Breloom @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
    Jolly Nature
    - Spore
    - Focus Punch
    - Mach Punch
    - Bullet Seed


    The only thing out of place here is Thunder on Ferrothorn, but that was mainly just so Intimidate Cawmodore couldn't set up on me.

    This was posted in the final product thread, but I'm gonna respond to it here:

    From all your posts that I've read, I've come to believe that you think Cawmodore is near-broken. I cannot say that I agree with this because of the fact that it isn't nearly as good as you are making it out to be. You don't have a solid grasp on how to use Cawmodore properly BECAUSE of the fact that you are trying to sweep with it every single ladder match. No Pokemon can sweep every match, not Landorus, not Blaziken, and definitely not Cawmodore.

    That was the biggest problem I saw from the ladder when I was playing, every single person tried sweeping with Cawmodore even when the timing wasn't right. They saw an opportunity to set up Cawmodore without realizing that an opportunity =/= the right time. They would see that I had a Keldeo on my team and still chose to Belly Drum. This is all partly due to the fact that most people tended to use Sitrus Berry, which is an item that I believe greatly limits Cawmodore in its early-mid game utility. Did I sweep with Cawmodore a good amount? Yes, but there were a good amount of times where I did not sweep with it, but it was still worth the team slot because it could fire off a Flying Gem-boosted Acrobatics without needing to set up Belly Drum.

    SubSalac Cawmodore is a cool set, although like any other SubSalac set in the history of Pokemon, it is very dependent on getting rid of opposing priority. I always felt like it was easier in getting rid of threats such as Scarf Keldeo than it was priority users but that's just me.

    Fun playtest n_n
  3. Elevator Music

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    Hi guys.

    Anyone who would like to write the Cawmodore analysis, please VM or PM me. As stated in the Analysis Process Guide, what I'm looking for in a writer is the following three attributes:
    • Experience in the playtest- If you were active in the playtest and managed to do somewhat well, you're qualified.
    • Competence in English- The more comfortable you feel about your writing skills the better. We do have GP for a reason though, so don't feel as though you need a degree to be qualified.
    • Timeliness and Responsibility- Getting analyses onsite is important, so we want someone willing to dedicate time and not flake! The analysis writer should be willing to take responsibility for getting the analysis through the process to go onsite.

    Please remember that I get the final say on who the analysis writer is.
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