eric the espeon
maybe I just misunderstood
this is not kept fully up to date, for a newer one look here http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38754
I have been doing Mini Tourneys for quite some time (long before the CAP server was up) but in a disorganized way, one at a time with the rules changing every time. DougJustDoug has asked me to serve as the Tournament Director for the CAP server, and I wanted to write down the rules for doing Mini-Tourneys so that other people can do them. I have also made a leader board of Tourney Victorys so we know how who wins a lot as well as how many tourneys are played.
Score Board:
Participant Leader Board:
Format: Tournament wins, Final Challenge wins
1. Alphabet_Soup 8, 3
2. Poopazing 6, 2
3. Spanky 4, 2
4. Plus 4, 1
4. Cooper 4, 1
4. Dixie Normans 4, 1
7. Ronjocox 4, 0
7. Feign 4, 0
7. Five 4, 0
10. Icyvegeta 3, 2
11. Super Trainer 3,1
11. Kespa 3, 1
11. Lil Ant 3, 1
11. Tekken7 3, 1
15. motson 2, 1
15. mr banana grabber 2, 1
15. DragonDance 2, 1
15. vegeta_ex 2, 1
15. Stallcia 2, 1
15. piledriver12300 2, 1
15. hybridherp 2, 1
15. Frosten 2, 1
23. Zenol 2, 0
23. FieryKai 2, 0
23. saud 2, 0
23. scsrhino 2, 0
23. alive 2, 0
23. Ranger Blue0 2, 0
23. Bass 2, 0
23. Burraki 2, 0
23. squirtleboy12 2, 0
23. Frosty 2, 0
23. Mudpie369 2, 0
23. Judge 2, 0
35. Brawley 1, 1
35. Pikapowow 1, 1
35. Ice hockey 1, 1
35. Zakkusu 1, 1
35. mien 1, 1
35. SSAJ 1, 1
35. isverygood 1, 1
35. mewthe 1, 1
42. Fetto 1, 0
42. Mr. Oak 1, 0
42. Matzrim Taim 1, 0
42. Itachi 2008 1, 0
42. Hybrid 1, 0
42. Evil Angel 1, 0
42. Mokkah (Mekkah on smogon) 1, 0
42. Luna 1, 0
42. cyberzero 1, 0
42. Cooley 1, 0
42. brock of pewter 1, 0
42. adam23 1, 0
42. (last....). eric the espeon 1, 0
4 player tourneys will give you one point, 8 player tourneys will give you 2, 16 will give 4, you get 1 FC point for winning a final challenge.
Final Challenges points act as tiebreakers.
Tournament Organizer Leader Board:
Format: Final Challenge Wins/Losses
1. eric the espeon 8/4
2. Bass 4/1
2. Hybrid 4/1
4. Aki 3/2
5. Cooper 1/0
5. Lil Ant 1/0
5. Plus 1/0
5. Spanky 1/0
9. Poopazing 5/5
10. IcyVegeta 3/3
11. mudpie369 2/2
12. Super Trainer 1/1
13. Tekken7 0/1
13. tennisace0227 0/1
13. Novatek 1/0
16. Magmorified 0/2
17. therealpele 0/4
Mini tournament rules (for participants):
Step 1: A approved tourney organizer that wants to organize a tourney will post something to this effect in the main chat:
Who wants to join a mini tourney? X spaces left.
Alternately you will see a similar message appearing in large red letters in every battle and the main chat, only sign up if you are near the end of your battle, or can play two at once.
Sign up by posting something like “me” or “im in” do so quickly as the places will fill fast, please do NOT sign up twice it makes it hard for us tourney organizers to work out who’s in, also do not sign up before they post the who wants to join message.
Step 2: The tourney organizers will pair you up with an opponent and post something like “master trainer V evil thing37 BEGIN” in the main chat, if you see your name there fight the person they say.
Step 3: Once you have completed a tournament battle you should always report in the main chat if you have lost or won. If you lost you are out, If you won you may need to wait for your opponent to finish their battle please DO NOT start a battle while waiting (unless you watch the main chat for pairings, and can play two battles at once) as it could hold up the whole tourney and may result in you being disqualified. Once you and your opponent have done your battles you will be paired up by the TO (touney organizer), repeat steps 2-3 till only one person remains in the competition.
Step 4: The last person will face a “final challenge” against one person (normally the TO who did the tourney) once this battle is over (even if you lose) your victory will be sent to every battle (by /wall) and recorded on a thread on Smogon <link to this thread>
Guide for organizing tournaments:
First you must be an approved tournament organizer, if you have been very active in mini tournaments and want to be one I will probably approve you unless we have enough.
4, 8 or 16 players may participate, if then tournament is bigger than 4 several tourney organizers may organize the tourney together by dividing the players into groups of 4. The first to sign up must be the ones who get let in (no you cant join before the tourney starts, or say “enter me in the next tourney”) unless they leave or start being incredibly stupid. You should not enter yourself in your own a tournaments unless you cant find enough people after some time.
Post a “Who wants to join a mini tourney? X spaces left.” type message, try to start with 4 player tournaments as the >8 player ones can be very confusing to do. If after about a minuet not enough people have signed up ask a mod (of if you are one just do it yourself) to do a /wall, make sure that you/they /wall the right thing with the right number of spaces available and say that first <number of spaces left> to sign up get in.
Once the tourney is full post saying "full" and then "Player A player B player G and player K are in" next pair up those who are in the tournament (you may do this however you like) and post “bulbazard14 V Super Trainer BEGIN!” messages for everyone in the tournament. You may post a "spotlight match" for people to watch.
Watch the main chat and the battles if you want to find out who wins, pair the winners up and tell them to battle. Repeat till only one player remains, when this happens tell them that they have won but there is a final challenge for them….. YOU. You must battle them (if more than one tourney organizer is doing the same tournament pick who it is) once that is over get a mod to (or if you can do it yourself) do a /wall saying something a bit like this “Player X has won an x player tournament, they also beat/lost the final challenge” you may add things like this “they are now first on this leader board <link>” or anything else you think fits.
Guide for team Tourneys:
(by Bass)
-To enter, each player must form a team with another player and inform the TO the name of their team-mate to enter.
-The tourney size is four teams, two people per team, making eight players total.
-Next, one member of each team is assigned as "captain". When the TO states the pairings, they will pair them by teams. The pairings will address them as "team captain" to keep organization simple.
-Once pairings are decided, the players decide amongst themselves who from each team they will face. In order to advance, a team must get two wins. (One player on each team battling the other). If there is a tie in the number of wins, a sudden death battle between the winning players on each team will decide which team advances to the next round.
-The team that wins must decide which player goes on to the final challenge. Only one player participates.
-Points won are shared between players on the winning team (For a 8 player tourney each player would get 1 point).
Standard Rules:
You may experiment with whatever rules you want for your Mini Tourney (UU, Mono Type, Random, whatever) but here are some for standard MT's, if you want to use different rules from these you must say so in your "who wants to sign up" post.
Shoddy clauses
Evasion Clase: ON
Extended Game: ON is better but does not matter.
Freeze Clause: OFF is better but does not matter.
Item Clause: OFF
Level Balence: OFF
OHKO Clause: ON
Random Battle: OFF
Sleep Clause: ON
Species Clause: ON is better but does not matter.
Strict Damage Clause: does not matter
Timed Battle: ON but if its off its ok, so long as people don't take extremely long.
I have put in so many "does not matter" clauses so that more battles will be allowed and TO's can just say "standard OU" and almost everyone will get the clauses right.
Other rules:
No Ubers: you may not use any Pokemon that is an Uber. (as many people come from shoddy ladder Deoxys-e and Wobbufet are allowed)
Self KO clause: you may not use self KOing attacks if you have only 1 Pokemon remaining. (I am thinking of removing this as in real battles it would be a draw, need some opinions)
No Scouting: you may not watch your opponents battles without permission (players are encouraged to let their opponents watch their opponents watch, but do not enter the battle of anyone who you may face in any currant tourney unless they have given you permission)
Approved Tournament Organisers (TOs):
eric the espeon
tennisace0227
poopazing
IcyVegetaAki
mudpie369
Lil Ant
Super Trainer
Magmortified
wargreyx
Tekken7
therealpele
Plus
Spanky
Hybrid
Luna
mewthe
Bass
hybridherp
Captain
Alphabet_Soup
Zenol
If you are on this list and do a tourney please record it then PM the results to me, if I am away (check my location) send it to DougJustDoug, he can edit into my post. If you can't use Smogon PM's or see me on Shoddy then you may tell me them via PM on Shoddy, just because I am on shoddy does not mean I know what happened and I will not always be watching the main chat, you must tell me via PM.
I prefer Smogon PMs so try to use Shoddy PMs only if you don't have a Smogon account, if your name is different on Smogon then please include your Shoddy name on Smogon PM's or I may use the wrong name.
Info I need:
1. How many people where in the MT?
2. Who won?
3. Did the winner of the tournament also win the final challenge?
I would like someone to help me to write a Mini Tourney FAQ, please post here if you can help.
I have been doing Mini Tourneys for quite some time (long before the CAP server was up) but in a disorganized way, one at a time with the rules changing every time. DougJustDoug has asked me to serve as the Tournament Director for the CAP server, and I wanted to write down the rules for doing Mini-Tourneys so that other people can do them. I have also made a leader board of Tourney Victorys so we know how who wins a lot as well as how many tourneys are played.
Score Board:
Participant Leader Board:
Format: Tournament wins, Final Challenge wins
1. Alphabet_Soup 8, 3
2. Poopazing 6, 2
3. Spanky 4, 2
4. Plus 4, 1
4. Cooper 4, 1
4. Dixie Normans 4, 1
7. Ronjocox 4, 0
7. Feign 4, 0
7. Five 4, 0
10. Icyvegeta 3, 2
11. Super Trainer 3,1
11. Kespa 3, 1
11. Lil Ant 3, 1
11. Tekken7 3, 1
15. motson 2, 1
15. mr banana grabber 2, 1
15. DragonDance 2, 1
15. vegeta_ex 2, 1
15. Stallcia 2, 1
15. piledriver12300 2, 1
15. hybridherp 2, 1
15. Frosten 2, 1
23. Zenol 2, 0
23. FieryKai 2, 0
23. saud 2, 0
23. scsrhino 2, 0
23. alive 2, 0
23. Ranger Blue0 2, 0
23. Bass 2, 0
23. Burraki 2, 0
23. squirtleboy12 2, 0
23. Frosty 2, 0
23. Mudpie369 2, 0
23. Judge 2, 0
35. Brawley 1, 1
35. Pikapowow 1, 1
35. Ice hockey 1, 1
35. Zakkusu 1, 1
35. mien 1, 1
35. SSAJ 1, 1
35. isverygood 1, 1
35. mewthe 1, 1
42. Fetto 1, 0
42. Mr. Oak 1, 0
42. Matzrim Taim 1, 0
42. Itachi 2008 1, 0
42. Hybrid 1, 0
42. Evil Angel 1, 0
42. Mokkah (Mekkah on smogon) 1, 0
42. Luna 1, 0
42. cyberzero 1, 0
42. Cooley 1, 0
42. brock of pewter 1, 0
42. adam23 1, 0
42. (last....). eric the espeon 1, 0
4 player tourneys will give you one point, 8 player tourneys will give you 2, 16 will give 4, you get 1 FC point for winning a final challenge.
Final Challenges points act as tiebreakers.
Tournament Organizer Leader Board:
Format: Final Challenge Wins/Losses
1. eric the espeon 8/4
2. Bass 4/1
2. Hybrid 4/1
4. Aki 3/2
5. Cooper 1/0
5. Lil Ant 1/0
5. Plus 1/0
5. Spanky 1/0
9. Poopazing 5/5
10. IcyVegeta 3/3
11. mudpie369 2/2
12. Super Trainer 1/1
13. Tekken7 0/1
13. tennisace0227 0/1
13. Novatek 1/0
16. Magmorified 0/2
17. therealpele 0/4
Mini tournament rules (for participants):
Step 1: A approved tourney organizer that wants to organize a tourney will post something to this effect in the main chat:
Who wants to join a mini tourney? X spaces left.
Alternately you will see a similar message appearing in large red letters in every battle and the main chat, only sign up if you are near the end of your battle, or can play two at once.
Sign up by posting something like “me” or “im in” do so quickly as the places will fill fast, please do NOT sign up twice it makes it hard for us tourney organizers to work out who’s in, also do not sign up before they post the who wants to join message.
Step 2: The tourney organizers will pair you up with an opponent and post something like “master trainer V evil thing37 BEGIN” in the main chat, if you see your name there fight the person they say.
Step 3: Once you have completed a tournament battle you should always report in the main chat if you have lost or won. If you lost you are out, If you won you may need to wait for your opponent to finish their battle please DO NOT start a battle while waiting (unless you watch the main chat for pairings, and can play two battles at once) as it could hold up the whole tourney and may result in you being disqualified. Once you and your opponent have done your battles you will be paired up by the TO (touney organizer), repeat steps 2-3 till only one person remains in the competition.
Step 4: The last person will face a “final challenge” against one person (normally the TO who did the tourney) once this battle is over (even if you lose) your victory will be sent to every battle (by /wall) and recorded on a thread on Smogon <link to this thread>
Guide for organizing tournaments:
First you must be an approved tournament organizer, if you have been very active in mini tournaments and want to be one I will probably approve you unless we have enough.
4, 8 or 16 players may participate, if then tournament is bigger than 4 several tourney organizers may organize the tourney together by dividing the players into groups of 4. The first to sign up must be the ones who get let in (no you cant join before the tourney starts, or say “enter me in the next tourney”) unless they leave or start being incredibly stupid. You should not enter yourself in your own a tournaments unless you cant find enough people after some time.
Post a “Who wants to join a mini tourney? X spaces left.” type message, try to start with 4 player tournaments as the >8 player ones can be very confusing to do. If after about a minuet not enough people have signed up ask a mod (of if you are one just do it yourself) to do a /wall, make sure that you/they /wall the right thing with the right number of spaces available and say that first <number of spaces left> to sign up get in.
Once the tourney is full post saying "full" and then "Player A player B player G and player K are in" next pair up those who are in the tournament (you may do this however you like) and post “bulbazard14 V Super Trainer BEGIN!” messages for everyone in the tournament. You may post a "spotlight match" for people to watch.
Watch the main chat and the battles if you want to find out who wins, pair the winners up and tell them to battle. Repeat till only one player remains, when this happens tell them that they have won but there is a final challenge for them….. YOU. You must battle them (if more than one tourney organizer is doing the same tournament pick who it is) once that is over get a mod to (or if you can do it yourself) do a /wall saying something a bit like this “Player X has won an x player tournament, they also beat/lost the final challenge” you may add things like this “they are now first on this leader board <link>” or anything else you think fits.
Guide for team Tourneys:
(by Bass)
-To enter, each player must form a team with another player and inform the TO the name of their team-mate to enter.
-The tourney size is four teams, two people per team, making eight players total.
-Next, one member of each team is assigned as "captain". When the TO states the pairings, they will pair them by teams. The pairings will address them as "team captain" to keep organization simple.
-Once pairings are decided, the players decide amongst themselves who from each team they will face. In order to advance, a team must get two wins. (One player on each team battling the other). If there is a tie in the number of wins, a sudden death battle between the winning players on each team will decide which team advances to the next round.
-The team that wins must decide which player goes on to the final challenge. Only one player participates.
-Points won are shared between players on the winning team (For a 8 player tourney each player would get 1 point).
Standard Rules:
You may experiment with whatever rules you want for your Mini Tourney (UU, Mono Type, Random, whatever) but here are some for standard MT's, if you want to use different rules from these you must say so in your "who wants to sign up" post.
Shoddy clauses
Evasion Clase: ON
Extended Game: ON is better but does not matter.
Freeze Clause: OFF is better but does not matter.
Item Clause: OFF
Level Balence: OFF
OHKO Clause: ON
Random Battle: OFF
Sleep Clause: ON
Species Clause: ON is better but does not matter.
Strict Damage Clause: does not matter
Timed Battle: ON but if its off its ok, so long as people don't take extremely long.
I have put in so many "does not matter" clauses so that more battles will be allowed and TO's can just say "standard OU" and almost everyone will get the clauses right.
Other rules:
No Ubers: you may not use any Pokemon that is an Uber. (as many people come from shoddy ladder Deoxys-e and Wobbufet are allowed)
Self KO clause: you may not use self KOing attacks if you have only 1 Pokemon remaining. (I am thinking of removing this as in real battles it would be a draw, need some opinions)
No Scouting: you may not watch your opponents battles without permission (players are encouraged to let their opponents watch their opponents watch, but do not enter the battle of anyone who you may face in any currant tourney unless they have given you permission)
Approved Tournament Organisers (TOs):
eric the espeon
tennisace0227
poopazing
IcyVegetaAki
mudpie369
Lil Ant
Super Trainer
Magmortified
wargreyx
Tekken7
therealpele
Plus
Spanky
Hybrid
Luna
mewthe
Bass
hybridherp
Captain
Alphabet_Soup
Zenol
If you are on this list and do a tourney please record it then PM the results to me, if I am away (check my location) send it to DougJustDoug, he can edit into my post. If you can't use Smogon PM's or see me on Shoddy then you may tell me them via PM on Shoddy, just because I am on shoddy does not mean I know what happened and I will not always be watching the main chat, you must tell me via PM.
I prefer Smogon PMs so try to use Shoddy PMs only if you don't have a Smogon account, if your name is different on Smogon then please include your Shoddy name on Smogon PM's or I may use the wrong name.
Info I need:
1. How many people where in the MT?
2. Who won?
3. Did the winner of the tournament also win the final challenge?
I would like someone to help me to write a Mini Tourney FAQ, please post here if you can help.