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LC Carvanha

Discussion in 'Preliminary Pokedex' started by prem, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. prem

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    Overview
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    Carvanha returns to Little Cup as the glass cannon that can clean through teams that it was before it was banned in BW. It thrives off its great ability, Speed Boost, which allows it to gradually become untouchable as it destroys the opponent. Its strong, unique STAB combination pairs perfectly with its ridiculous base 90 Attack, giving Carvanha many opportunities to sweep through opposing teams. However, Carvanha is cursed with horrible 45 / 20 / 20 defenses that make it struggle to take even resisted attacks. But despite its nonexistent bulk, Carvanha is exceptional at both breaking walls and sweeping weakened teams.

    GOTTA GO FAST
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    name: GOTTA GO FAST
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Crunch
    move 3: Aqua Jet / Destiny Bond
    move 4: Protect / Destiny Bond
    ability: Speed Boost
    item: Life Orb
    evs: 196 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
    ivs: 0 HP
    nature: Adamant

    Moves
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    With its massive Attack stat and Speed Boost, Carvanha can easily overwhelm its opponents with a physical Life Orb set. Waterfall is Carvanha's main STAB option due to its reliable power and great coverage. Crunch is the secondary STAB option, another reliable move with equally good Base Power. After its primary STAB attacks, Carvanha has multiple options in Protect, Aqua Jet, and Destiny Bond. Aqua Jet is incredible at picking off weakened foes, while also dodging any priority aimed at Carvanha from the likes of weakened Pokemon such as Meditite. Protect, on the other hand, gives Carvanha a guaranteed +1 in Speed, while also dodging any Fake Outs that would otherwise KO it. Destiny Bond is a bit of an oddball move on Carvanha; while Carvanha is meant to destroy everything in its path, Destiny Bond allows it to immediately remove any threat from the game because almost any attack will OHKO it anyway.


    Set Details
    ========


    Max Attack with an Adamant nature gives Carvanha all the power it needs to sweep teams. After that, max Speed is used to allow Carvanha to outspeed most of the metagame before a Speed boost. The rest of the EVs are put into both defenses to help Carvanha take priority attacks and resisted hits more easily. HP IVs are set to 0 so that Carvanha is at 19 HP, making it only lose one hit point from Life Orb recoil. Likewise, Life Orb is the preferred item because Carvanha needs all the power it can get to guarantee OHKOs.


    Usage Tips
    ========

    There are only two times Carvanha should come in: either to pick something off or to start a sweep. Before attempting to sweep, Carvanha is a hit-and-run Pokemon that comes in either to break a wall with two Waterfalls or to pick something off with Aqua Jet. Because of Carvanha's lack of bulk, the user should be very conservative with what moves Carvanha switches in on if it must; common choices include Ice-type attacks aimed at teammates such as Gligar.

    Team Options
    ========
    Carvanha struggles to endure any hit, especially from the ever common Fighting-types, so it needs teammates to patch up its paper-thin defenses. Gligar and Misdreavus are both great Pokemon that can tank many priority moves; Gligar can take advantage of Fighting-types to set up Stealth Rock or just KO them with Acrobatics, whereas Misdreavus can come in for free on the many Fake Outs and Fighting-type moves in the tier. Because Carvanha aims to sweep through teams, bulky Pokemon that can take a single hit such as Spritzee and Porygon are major issues. Knock Off support from Pokemon such as Pawniard greatly aids Carvanha against these threats, while setup sweepers such as Gligar can use them as setup bait.

    Other Options
    ########

    Zen Headbutt is a good move Carvanha can run to hit some of its checks on the switch, but with the exception of Croagunk, it does not get any OHKOs that Waterfall misses. Carvanha can effectively run a mixed attacking set, using both Hydro Pump and Ice Beam to hit some of its would-be checks such as Snubbull and Timburr harder, but this misses out on many important KOs by splitting its attacking stats. Thief has a very niche use with Focus Sash, allowing Carvanha to steal Berry Juices, but the loss of firepower makes it an inferior option to Crunch.


    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Croagunk**: Croagunk is immune to Waterfall and resists Crunch, letting it practically come in for free. It also has Vacuum Wave, letting it completely ignore Carvanha's Speed.

    **Timburr**: Timburr has the physical bulk to easily take a Waterfall and hit Carvanha with Drain Punch to regain its lost health. It also has Mach Punch to ignore Speed Boost.

    **Priority Moves**: Priority is particularly effective against Carvanha because it lacks the bulk to take even not very effective priority well. This, coupled with Life Orb lowering Carvanha's health every turn, can quickly put a stop to Carvanha's sweep.

    **Ferroseed**: Ferroseed resists Waterfall, has the bulk to take a Crunch, and can easily threaten Carvanha with Thunder Wave and Bullet Seed.

    **Sturdy**: Due to Carvanha's lack of bulk, if it cannot OHKO the opponent, it will be KOed. Sturdy literally prevents a Pokemon from being OHKOed, making it a good answer to Carvanha.

    **Bulky Pokemon**: Particularly bulky Pokemon such as Porygon and Spritzee can take a hit from Carvanha relatively easily and retaliate, punishing its lack of bulk.
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    • It's much easier to remove mentions of Tangela / Yanma than it is to add them. Sprinkle mentions of them in for now.
    • I agree with the purely physical Carv set as I've seen it be much more effective than mixed so A+ for you
    • I would give Protect the primary slash, if Carvanha's to repeatedly come in to wallbreak / revenge kill against some of the faster Pokes in the meta it can't afford to take that extra hit. ALso helps against Meditite.
    • You can give Carvanha 36 SpDef EVs as well, your set has 40 left.
    • Mention which prio users give Carvanha the most trouble; specifically, Timburr and Croagunk.

    On that note, QC 1/3 !!
  3. Hollywood

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    Under Team Options, it'd be cool to mention some things that appreciates the Pokemon that Destiny Bond Carvanha can lure being dead. Basically, things that like to see Fairy-types, Tangela, etc. out of the way. Some cool examples might be LO Mienfoo, which can also beat Ferroseed for Carvanha; Scraggy, which can do the same and hates Fairy-types; and Murkrow, which doesn't really ~hate~ Fairy-types, but doesn't like them or Porygon.

    I'd also just call the set "Life Orb" or "Speed Boost." "Life Orb Sweeper" sounds kinda clunky.
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    We had a short discussion on IRC about the set name, and we came up with "Speed Boost Sweeper" as the best name. Normally "Sweeper" would suffice, but since Speed Boost is paramount to Caravanha's success as a sweeper, it should be acknowledged.
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    qc approved 2/3
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    Honestly "Speed Boost" is fine.
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    can i make it GOTTA GO FAST :D
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    Awesome, prem!



    QC 3/3
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    Honestly, I think protect has more utility than aqua jet. It allows you to come in on any threat that you can ohko and force them out. With aqua jet, you HAVE to come in on something and somehow manage to not be hit. Imo put protect in the third slot and slash aqua jet in fourth...
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    FINALLY ITS READY FOR THE LAST QC CHECK. IM NOT SLOW AT ALL
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    Amateur check.
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    Overview
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    Carvanha returns to Little Cup as the glass cannon that can clean through teams that it was before it was banned. This piranha thrives off its great ability, Speed Boost, which allowing allows it to slowly gradually become untouchable as it destroys the opponent. Its strong, unique stab STAB combination in LC pairs perfectly with its ridiculous base 90 attack, giving Carvanha the opportunity many opportunities to sweep through opposing teams. However, Carvanha is however, cursed with horrible 45 / 20 / 20 defenses that makes it struggle to take even resisted attacks. But Despite despite its low defenses nonexistent bulk, Carvanha is exceptional at both breaking walls and sweeping weakened teams.

    SET NAME
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    name: GOTTA GO FAST
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Crunch
    move 3: Aqua Jet / Destiny Bond
    move 4: Protect / Destiny Bond
    ability: Speed Boost
    item: Life Orb
    evs: 196 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
    IVs: 0 HP
    nature: Adamant

    Moves
    ========

    With its massive attack Attack stat and speed boost Speed Boost, Carvanha can easily overwhelm its opponents with a physical life orb Life Orb set. Waterfall is Carvanha’s main STAB option with due to its reliable power and great coverage. Crunch is the secondary STAB option, due to its weaker side effect and coverage, but is still a another reliable move with the same equally good base power as Waterfall (this sentence shouldn't be so negative. We're talking about a basic, essential STAB move, not some kind of obscure unnecessary coverage option). After its primary STAB attacks, Carvanha has multiple options in the form of Protect, Aqua Jet, and Destiny Bond. Aqua Jet is incredible for at picking off weakened foes, while also dodging any priority aimed at Carvanha from the likes of weakened pokemon Pokemon such as Meditite;. Protect, on the other hand, gives Carvanha a guaranteed +1 in Speed, while also dodging any Fake Outs that would otherwise murder KO Carvanha it. Destiny Bond is a bit of an odd ball oddball move on Carvanha:; from one persepective, while Carvanha is meant to destroy everything its path;, Destiny Bond, however, allows Carvanha it to immediately remove any threat from the game because almost everything is guaranteed to any attack will OHKO Carvanha anyway.


    Set Details
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    Max attack Attack with an Adamant nature gives Carvanha all of the power it needs to sweep teams. After maxing attack that, max speed Speed is used to allow Carvanha to outspeed most of the metagame before a speed boost,. while the The rest of the EVs are put into both defenses to allow help it take priority attacks and resisted hits easier more easily. HP IVs are set to 0 so that Carvanha reaches is at 19 HP, making it only take lose one damage hit point from Life Orb recoil. Likewise, Life Orb is the preffered preferred item of choice because Carvanha needs all the power it can get to guarantee OHKOs.


    Usage Tips
    ========

    There are only two times Carvanha should come in,: either to pick something off or to start a sweep. Before attempting to sweep, Carvanha is a hit-and-run pokemon Pokemon that coming comes in either to either break a wall with 2 two Waterfalls, or to pick something off with Aqua Jet. Because of Carvanha’s inherent lack of bulk, the user should be very conservative on what moves Carvanha comes switches in on if it must; common moves to come in on choices are ice Ice-type attacks aimed at teammates such as gligar Gligar.

    Team Options
    ========
    Carvanha struggles to take endure any form of damage hit (with that bulk, I don't think it'll have a hard time taking damage), especially from the ever common Fighting-types, and so it needs team mates teammates to patch up its air-like paper-thin (Eh, "air-like" doesn't make as much sense) defenses. Gligar and Misdreavus are both great pokemon Pokemon who can take tank many hits of priority moves; Gligar can take advantage of Fighting-types to set up Stealth rocks Rock or to just kill them with Acrobatics, while whereas Misdreavus can come in for free on the many Fake outs Outs and Fighting-type moves in the tier. Because Carvanha relies on sweeping aims to sweep through teams, bulky pokemon Pokemon who that can take a single hit such as Spritzee and Porygon are major issues. Knock off Off support from pokemon Pokemon such as Pawniard helps aid greatly aids Carvanha’s sweeps sweeping ability greatly, while set up setup sweepers such as Gligar can use them as set up setup bait. Yanma is a great partner for Carvanha, taking all Fighting-type attacks aimed at Carvanha, while hitting being able to hit all the many physical walls on its their weaker side. (Haha, BANNED!)

    Other Options
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    Zen Headbutt is a good move Carvanha can run to hit some of its checks on the switch, but with the exception of Croagunk, it does not get any OHKOs that Waterfall misses. Carvanha can effectively run a mix mixed attacking set, using both Hydro Pump and Ice beam Beam to hit some of its would-be checks such as Snubbull and Timburr harder, but this set did not deserve its own set because it (unecessary detail) misses out on some many (re-emphasizing due to the other detail being removed) important kills by splitting its attack attacking stats. Thief has a very niche use with Focus Sash, allowing Carvanha to steal many Berry Juices, but the loss of firepower makes this it an inferior option to Crunch.


    Checks & Counters
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    **Croagunk**: Croagunk is Immune immune to Waterfall, and resists Crunch, letting it practically come in for free practically. It also has Vacuum wave Wave, to letting it completely ignore Carvanha's speed Speed.

    **Timburr**: Timburr has the physical bulk to easily take a Waterfall and just hit Carvanha with Drain Punch and get all of its to regain its lost health back. It also has Mach Punch to ignore Speed Boost.

    **Priority moves**: Priority is particularly effective again against Carvanha because it lacks the bulk to take even not very effective priority well. This, coupled with life orb Life Orb lowering Carvanha's health every turn, causes let it to put a stop on to Carvanha's sweep.

    **Ferroseed**: Ferroseed resists Waterfall, has the bulk to take a crunch Crunch easily (too much use of "easily"), and can easily threaten Carvanha with Thunder Wave or Bullet Seed.

    **Sturdy**: Because of Due to Carvanha's lack of bulk, if it cannot OHKO the opponent, it will die. Sturdy literally prevents the a pokemon Pokemon from being OHKOed, making it a good answer to Carvanha.

    **Swirlix**: Swirlix can check Carvanha as it has the bulk to take one Waterfall and OHKO Carvanha. Many pokemon can do this, but Swirlix is particularly threatening because if it has its Berry Juice, this will trigger Unburden will be triggered and it can proceed to sweep the team with its doubled speed Speed.

    **Bulky Pokemon: Particularly bulky pokemon Pokemon such as Porygon and Spritzee can take a hit from Carvanha relatively easily, and retaliate, punish punishing its lack of bulk.
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    Overview
    ########

    Carvanha returns to Little Cup as the glass cannon that can clean through teams that it was before it was banned. This piranha thrives off its great ability, Speed Boost, which allows it to gradually become untouchable as it destroys the opponent. Its strong, unique STAB combination pairs perfectly with its ridiculous base 90 attack, giving Carvanha many opportunities to sweep through opposing teams. However, Carvanha is cursed with horrible 45 / 20 / 20 defenses that makes it struggle to take even resisted attacks. But despite its nonexistent bulk, Carvanha is exceptional at both breaking walls and sweeping weakened teams.

    SET NAME
    ########
    name: GOTTA GO FAST
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Crunch
    move 3: Aqua Jet / Destiny Bond
    move 4: Protect / Destiny Bond
    ability: Speed Boost
    item: Life Orb
    evs: 196 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
    IVs: 0 HP
    nature: Adamant

    Moves
    ========

    With its massive Attack stat and Speed Boost, Carvanha can easily overwhelm its opponents with a physical Life Orb set. Waterfall is Carvanha’s main STAB option due to its reliable power and great coverage. Crunch is the secondary STAB option, another reliable move with equally good base power. After its primary STAB attacks, Carvanha has multiple options in Protect, Aqua Jet, and Destiny Bond. Aqua Jet is incredible at picking off weakened foes, while also dodging any priority aimed at Carvanha from the likes of weakened Pokemon such as Meditite. Protect, on the other hand, gives Carvanha a guaranteed +1 in Speed, while also dodging any Fake Outs that would otherwise KO it. Destiny Bond is a bit of an oddball move on Carvanha; while Carvanha is meant to destroy everything its path, Destiny Bond allows it to immediately remove any threat from the game because almost any attack will OHKO Carvanha anyway.


    Set Details
    ========


    Max Attack with an Adamant nature gives Carvanha all the power it needs to sweep teams. After that, max Speed is used to allow Carvanha to outspeed most of the metagame before a speed boost. The rest of the EVs are put into both defenses to help it take priority attacks and resisted hits more easily. HP IVs are set to 0 so that Carvanha is at 19 HP, making it only lose one hit point from Life Orb recoil. Likewise, Life Orb is the preferred item because Carvanha needs all the power it can get to guarantee OHKOs.


    Usage Tips
    ========

    There are only two times Carvanha should come in: either to pick something off or to start a sweep. Before attempting to sweep, Carvanha is a hit-and-run Pokemon that comes in either to break a wall with two Waterfalls, or to pick something off with Aqua Jet. Because of Carvanha’s lack of bulk, the user should be very conservative on what moves Carvanha switches in on if it must; common choices are Ice-type attacks aimed at teammates such as Gligar.

    Team Options
    ========
    Carvanha struggles to endure any hit, especially from the ever common Fighting-types, so it needs teammates to patch up its paper-thin defenses. Gligar and Misdreavus are both great Pokemon who can tank many priority moves; Gligar can take advantage of Fighting-types to set up Stealth Rock or just kill them with Acrobatics, whereas Misdreavus can come in for free on the many Fake Outs and Fighting-type moves in the tier. Because Carvanha aims to sweep through teams, bulky Pokemon that can take a single hit such as Spritzee and Porygon are major issues. Knock Off support from Pokemon such as Pawniard greatly aids Carvanha’s sweeping ability, while setup sweepers such as Gligar can use them as setup bait.

    Other Options
    ########

    Zen Headbutt is a good move Carvanha can run to hit some of its checks on the switch, but with the exception of Croagunk, it does not get any OHKOs that Waterfall misses. Carvanha can effectively run a mixed attacking set, using both Hydro Pump and Ice Beam to hit some of its would-be checks such as Snubbull and Timburr harder, but this misses out on many important kills by splitting its attacking stats. Thief has a very niche use with Focus Sash, allowing Carvanha to steal many Berry Juices, but the loss of firepower makes it an inferior option to Crunch.


    Checks & Counters
    ########

    **Croagunk**: Croagunk is immune to Waterfall and resists Crunch, letting it practically come in for free. It also has Vacuum Wave, letting it completely ignore Carvanha's Speed.

    **Timburr**: Timburr has the physical bulk to easily take a Waterfall and hit Carvanha with Drain Punch to regain its lost health. It also has Mach Punch to ignore Speed Boost.

    **Priority moves**: Priority is particularly effective against Carvanha because it lacks the bulk to take even not very effective priority well. This, coupled with Life Orb lowering Carvanha's health every turn, let it to put a stop to Carvanha's sweep.

    **Ferroseed**: Ferroseed resists Waterfall, has the bulk to take a Crunch, and can easily threaten Carvanha with Thunder Wave or Bullet Seed.

    **Sturdy**: Due to Carvanha's lack of bulk, if it cannot OHKO the opponent, it will die. Sturdy literally prevents a Pokemon from being OHKOed, making it a good answer to Carvanha.

    **Swirlix**: Swirlix can check Carvanha as it has the bulk to take one Waterfall and OHKO Carvanha. Many pokemon can do this, but Swirlix is particularly threatening because if it has its Berry Juice, Unburden will be triggered and it can proceed to sweep with its doubled Speed.

    **Bulky Pokemon**: Particularly bulky Pokemon such as Porygon and Spritzee can take a hit from Carvanha relatively easily and retaliate, punishing its lack of bulk.
    EDIT: Shoot, this was tagged Copyediting but I guess I came too early. Oh well. I edited in the Checks and Counters thing that Ray Jay brought up, so I guess it's okay.
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    You should do this for the checks and counters: **pokemon name**: etc etc etc

    Other than that this is good send this man to the frogs GP!
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    prem i almost forgot to mention remove your mention of yanma
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    OKAY EDITED IT IN AND REMOVED YANMa
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    Overview
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    Carvanha returns to Little Cup as the glass cannon that can clean through teams that it was before it was banned in BW. This piranha It thrives off its great ability, Speed Boost, which allows it to gradually become untouchable as it destroys the opponent. Its strong, unique STAB combination pairs perfectly with its ridiculous base 90 attack Attack, giving Carvanha many opportunities to sweep through opposing teams. However, Carvanha is cursed with horrible 45 / 20 / 20 defenses that makes make it struggle to take even resisted attacks. But despite its nonexistent bulk, Carvanha is exceptional at both breaking walls and sweeping weakened teams.

    SET NAME GOTTA GO FAST
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    name: GOTTA GO FAST
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Crunch
    move 3: Aqua Jet / Destiny Bond
    move 4: Protect / Destiny Bond
    ability: Speed Boost
    item: Life Orb
    evs: 196 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
    IVs ivs: 0 HP
    nature: Adamant

    Moves
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    With its massive Attack stat and Speed Boost, Carvanha can easily overwhelm its opponents with a physical Life Orb set. Waterfall is Carvanha’s (change straight apostrophe) main STAB option due to its reliable power and great coverage. Crunch is the secondary STAB option, another reliable move with equally good base power Base Power. After its primary STAB attacks, Carvanha has multiple options in Protect, Aqua Jet, and Destiny Bond. Aqua Jet is incredible at picking off weakened foes, while also dodging any priority aimed at Carvanha from the likes of weakened Pokemon such as Meditite. Protect, on the other hand, gives Carvanha a guaranteed +1 in Speed, while also dodging any Fake Outs that would otherwise KO it. Destiny Bond is a bit of an oddball move on Carvanha; while Carvanha is meant to destroy everything in its path, Destiny Bond allows it to immediately remove any threat from the game because almost any attack will OHKO Carvanha it anyway.


    Set Details
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    Max Attack with an Adamant nature gives Carvanha all the power it needs to sweep teams. After that, max Speed is used to allow Carvanha to outspeed most of the metagame before a speed Speed boost. The rest of the EVs are put into both defenses to help it Carvanha take priority attacks and resisted hits more easily. HP IVs are set to 0 so that Carvanha is at 19 HP, making it only lose one hit point from Life Orb recoil. Likewise, Life Orb is the preferred item because Carvanha needs all the power it can get to guarantee OHKOs.


    Usage Tips
    ========

    There are only two times Carvanha should come in: either to pick something off or to start a sweep. Before attempting to sweep, Carvanha is a hit-and-run Pokemon that comes in either to break a wall with two Waterfalls, (remove comma) or to pick something off with Aqua Jet. Because of Carvanha’s (change to straight apostrophe) lack of bulk, the user should be very conservative on with what moves Carvanha switches in on if it must; common choices are include Ice-type attacks aimed at teammates such as Gligar.

    Team Options
    ========
    Carvanha struggles to endure any hit, especially from the ever common Fighting-types, so it needs teammates to patch up its paper-thin defenses. Gligar and Misdreavus are both great Pokemon who that can tank many priority moves; Gligar can take advantage of Fighting-types to set up Stealth Rock or just kill KO them with Acrobatics, whereas Misdreavus can come in for free on the many Fake Outs and Fighting-type moves in the tier. Because Carvanha aims to sweep through teams, bulky Pokemon that can take a single hit such as Spritzee and Porygon are major issues. Knock Off support from Pokemon such as Pawniard greatly aids Carvanha’s sweeping ability Carvanha against these threats, while setup sweepers such as Gligar can use them as setup bait.

    Other Options
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    Zen Headbutt is a good move Carvanha can run to hit some of its checks on the switch, but with the exception of Croagunk, it does not get any OHKOs that Waterfall misses. Carvanha can effectively run a mixed attacking set, using both Hydro Pump and Ice Beam to hit some of its would-be checks such as Snubbull and Timburr harder, but this misses out on many important kills KOs by splitting its attacking stats. Thief has a very niche use with Focus Sash, allowing Carvanha to steal many Berry Juices, but the loss of firepower makes it an inferior option to Crunch.


    Checks & Counters
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    **Croagunk**: Croagunk is immune to Waterfall and resists Crunch, letting it practically come in for free. It also has Vacuum Wave, letting it completely ignore Carvanha's Speed.

    **Timburr**: Timburr has the physical bulk to easily take a Waterfall and hit Carvanha with Drain Punch to regain its lost health. It also has Mach Punch to ignore Speed Boost.

    **Priority moves**: Priority is particularly effective against Carvanha because it lacks the bulk to take even not very effective priority well. This, coupled with Life Orb lowering Carvanha's health every turn, let it to can quickly put a stop to Carvanha's sweep.

    **Ferroseed**: Ferroseed resists Waterfall, has the bulk to take a Crunch, and can easily threaten Carvanha with Thunder Wave or and Bullet Seed.

    **Sturdy**: Due to Carvanha's lack of bulk, if it cannot OHKO the opponent, it will die be KOed. Sturdy literally prevents a Pokemon from being OHKOed, making it a good answer to Carvanha.

    **Swirlix**: Swirlix can check Carvanha as it has the bulk to take one Waterfall and can OHKO Carvanha. Many pokemon Pokemon can do this, but Swirlix is particularly threatening because if it has its Berry Juice, Unburden will be triggered and it can proceed to sweep with its doubled Speed.

    **Bulky Pokemon**: Particularly bulky Pokemon such as Porygon and Spritzee can take a hit from Carvanha relatively easily and retaliate, punishing its lack of bulk.


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    This is a little late lol but Cottonee is a dead counter to any Carvanha and should be added to the section. It takes barely anything from its attacks, can sub when you are forced to switch out. And then it can use Stun Spore or Leech Seed to completely ruin your momentum and annoy the living fuck out of you.

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