(Approved by Bloo) So this is the CB Tyranitar that is on site right now: Tyranitar item: Choice Band nature: Adamant evs: 156 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spe ability: Sandstream - Stone Edge - Crunch - Pursuit - Superpower / Aqua Tail The Atk and Spe evs are just fine and you all know their purpose. My problem is with HP evs. I was wondering why these 156 remaining evs go into HP and not to SpD, since CBTar's main job is to trap certain threats (special attackers mainly), while also hitting very hard when he forces something out, since he is a bit slow to outspeed stuff usually. And guess what it normally forces out? Yeah you guessed it special attackers. Even without the HP evs, CBtar can take any physical hit that it should (meaning weak or resisted ones), while with the extra SpD he can better handle a multitude of special attackers. For a matter of fact: Specs Latios DM vs 156 HP Ttar: 60.26 - 71.05%, sure 2hko with SR, and 37.89% without ...same vs 156 SpD Ttar: 57.47 - 68.03%, 6.64% chance to 2hko without SR, and 98.83% to 2hko with SR Specs Latios Surf vs 156 HP Ttar: 54.73 - 64.73% ...same vs 156 SpD Ttar: 52.78 - 62.17%, nothing to really see here except that that Ttar with the evs in SpD can trap Latios even at 52.78%-54.72%, while Ttar with the evs in HP cannot With the evs in HP you are 2hkoed by Giga Drain 37.89% of the time after SR, while with the evs in SpD you are 2hkoed only 9.38% of the time. Standard LO Starmie's HP vs 156 HP Ttar: 75.78 - 88.94%, sure OHKO after 2 SR rounds, and has a 6.25% chance to OHKO after 1 round of SR ...same vs 156 SpD Ttar: 72.14 - 85.04%, never ohko'ed after SR and has a 25% chance to survive after 2 SR rounds CM Reuniclus' FB vs 156 HP Ttar: 73.68 - 87.36%, 87.5% chance to OHKO after 2 SR rounds ...same vs 156 SpD Ttar: 70.38 - 83.28%, 62.5% chance to OHKO after 2 SR rounds Bulky QD Volcarona's Bug Buzz at +1 vs 156 HP Ttar: 66.84 - 78.94%, 31.25% chance to OHKO after 2 SR rounds ...same vs 156 SpD Ttar: 63.92 - 75.65%, 6.25% chance to OHKO after 2 SR rounds Chesto Rest Volcarona's Bug Buzz at +1 vs 156 HP Ttar: 87.36 - 103.15%, 25% chance to OHKO without SR, and 93.75% to OHKO after SR ...same vs 156 SpD Ttar: 84.45 - 99.12%, always survives without SR, and has a 25% chance to survive after SR Anyone that wants to see the discussion with jc104, can go to the Small Subjective Changes thread... So, QC team, and all you people, what do you think?